"Breaking News" All General Discussion Here [Merged]

What do You Think Now???

  • Now im Sure Its Michael!!!

    Votes: 89 21.4%
  • I Still Think its Not him!!!

    Votes: 223 53.7%
  • I now think that its Michael, but still have my doubts!!

    Votes: 24 5.8%
  • Im Confused!!!!

    Votes: 79 19.0%

  • Total voters
    415
  • Poll closed .
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Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

Just listened to the acapella version and found it to be very interesting. It's defintiely the fake vocals, however what I found interesting waas that at around 21 seconds when he says "Just when you thought it was..." it actually sounds like a different person..very subtle but obvious different. I feel that's the real MJ. But I couldn't pay attention to any other instances where I heard the real MJ. Anyone notice this? Listen to the song from the beginning and pay attention at the 21 second mark..

This acapella is indeed interesting. I would agree with you if only there wasn't this routined vibrato ending at the word "done". (Speechless intro had a lot of vibrato but wasn't like that one, or was it?)

This acapella version is what Seth Riggs should listen to and give his opinion
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

That's mj on the acapella 100%

I trust my hearing, there are certain MJ charecteriatics that can be clearly picked up on

BUT we are only hearing about 35 to 40% of the track. The YouTube account holder seems to have got themselves in a muddle, IMO what we have here is the TRUE MJ vocals only with the 'imposter' vocals missing.

I'm still not 100% sure on the whole imposter idea, there does seem to be a massive amount of 'cut and paste' going on with Michaels vocals, the layering could be to hide that and in the end we have an odd sounding voice.

The funny thing is there are already like two of us who think it's the fake vocals and now two including yourself who think it's the real vocals. All this is leading to believe that sony may have actually had something goin when they thought they could fool the fans. And just to clarify either of us could be right..who knows :(.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

Just listened to the acapella version and found it to be very interesting. It's defintiely the fake vocals, however what I found interesting waas that at around 21 seconds when he says "Just when you thought it was..." it actually sounds like a different person..very subtle but obvious different. I feel that's the real MJ. But I couldn't pay attention to any other instances where I heard the real MJ. Anyone notice this? Listen to the song from the beginning and pay attention at the 21 second mark..

Similar, but not him. Listen at 30 seconds, I think we can agree that's the same voice at 21 seconds. Now, listen to his vibrato at 31 seconds. It's WAY too fast. Barring some WHO's and AAOW's the ENTIRE thing is Malachi.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

In his new article, RF said that the album is NOT finalized. But MUSt be on friday.
 
Re: Do You Think "Breaking News" + other Cascio songs will be left out of MICHAEL due to controversy

If all the Cascio songs are as questionnable as Breaking News then I'm worried about how much fans will be able to enjoy this album. If this was the only questionnable song I just might be able to overlook it, but if there are three or more of these Cascio tracks, the album will end up being a complete joke.

This whole thing is outrageous. If Sony have PROOF, then show it to us. Silence the family and the fans with cold, hard proof and we can all sit back and enjoy the album. Otherwise, these songs need to be removed.

I would rather have eight tracks of 100% MJ, then 12 tracks where I have to question a quarter of the songs.

DO THE RIGHT THING FOR MICHAEL. PROVE IT OR LOSE IT.


 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

Similar, but not him. Listen at 30 seconds, I think we can agree that's the same voice at 21 seconds. Now, listen to his vibrato at 31 seconds. It's WAY too fast. Barring some WHO's and AAOW's the ENTIRE thing is Malachi.

The vibratos throughout the acapella are suspicious to me. They are all sung the same way? Plus another bad part is at 1:36 "you just induldge", can't picture Michael singing that
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

For those who are interested, I spoke with my source on the phone for over 30 minutes tonight regarding this whole mess. This is coming straight from Sony: the vocals are over 50% not MJ's, they did hire an impersonator to run over the majority of MJ's pre-existing vocals and tried to hide it with production.

The remaining Cascio tracks including "Monster" are all in the same boat with some MJ vocals and some imposter vocals. There will be a big meeting tomorrow at Sony where they will discuss the future of this album. More to come...

Thank you! This is getting so interesting and I can't wait how this whole mess ends.

Is that Acapella, that is said to be real, really real? That sounds nothing like MJ for sure and it was actually quite painful to listen to.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

As deceptive as SONY could be I honestly think they have at least some MJ vocals on this track, what percentage is up for debate but I doubt I a million years they would attempt to use 100% fake vocals, that would be incredibly stupid and land someone with a few years prison time!
What I'm leaning more towards now is they felt the 'average fan' wouldnt notice that either:

A: We have a track made up of a heavily edited 'cut & paste' overly produced, re-pitched/tuned/layered MJ

B: We have a track made up of around 40% true MJ vocals with some added 'trimmings' to finishing it off. They probably figured that since most artists use backing vocals/duet they could try and cover things by conveniently hiring a sound'a'like to in effect trick the general public....

A mess eitherway.

SONY if your reading, I'm available for hire, whoever suggested you released THIS track in this state is a morron, a muppet, a plonker a fool, get the point!? What you should have done is release 100% without doubt MJ track first THEN try to pass this off as 100% genuine.

Schoolboy error SONY or to use modern day slang, Epic fail.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

The vibratos throughout the acapella are suspicious to me. They are all sung the same way? Plus another bad part is at 1:36 "you just induldge", can't picture Michael singing that

Thing is, vibrato usually pulsates ON BEAT. Malachi's just pulsate at a high tempo regardless of whatever the hell the track's BPM is at. MJ's were always perfect, my 2 favourite things about his voice are his vibrato and volume control. Exhibit A
 
Re: "Breaking News" Fake Song Talk Here Including Poll

i voted not sure ^.^
because we cant really hear it. it can be michael and sth was done with his voice in the studio because track wasnt finished. but it could also be someone else.. although i really doubt it, cause sony would be really stupid doing this...
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

Why can't Sony release a part of raw demo unmixed and another with the sound engineering mixed so we can spot the differnce ?
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

The falsettos are weird too. What's wrong at 2:11 with the word "today"?
 
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I had a beautiful dream tonight and for a moment I forgot about this nightmare we're in from yesterday. Well, till now.
Thank you SC05 for the update.
I am mad. I mean - how do they even could think about it?! Not mention how did they dare to really publish it? They're not respecting nor Michael nor us!
I'd find the song ok, if they have told us from the very begging: we had too less MJ's vocals to finish the song, so it's gonna be some kind of collaboration. And if they won't release it as MJ's song but as (I don't know) Michael Jackson feat. Malachi/whoever. But they cheated, they officially lied to us! This is something I can't even imagine in my poor stupid mind, but hey - this is happening. God...
From months we hear they've got hundreds of unreleased almost finished songs and we get something like that.
I really wish now, they'd just give us the demos, unfinished, untouched - but at least with Michael's vocals on them.
I don't know. I feel like in Twilight Zone or like in Matrix. I wanna get out.
Shall we take some legal steps against them? Or what shall we do? Where is it all going right now?
:doh:
 
Re: "Breaking News" Fake Song Talk Here Including Poll

Yes I do!!!!:wild:
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

Thing is, vibrato usually pulsates ON BEAT. Malachi's just pulsate at a high tempo regardless of whatever the hell the track's BPM is at. MJ's were always perfect, my 2 favourite things about his voice are his vibrato and volume control. Exhibit A

:clapping: Bingo, Malachi has that routine rehearsed. Plus in the accapella the vibrato is tiring and gives you nausea (this I never fellt with MJ). 0:43 vibrato is too much to stand
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

Yes.

There is no doubt it's Jason.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

The falsettos are weird too. What's wrong at 2:11 with the word "today"?

Compare. It's not him, guys. I want it to be, but none of the qualities that gave MJ his status as the greatest artist to ever exist are present in Breaking News.
 
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Re: "Breaking News" Fake Song Talk Here Including Poll

Ugh, I dunno... I like the song, but my first thought was - gee, they played it very safe with that one. I think had Mike been here, we would've gotten something more "spectacular". My second thought was - why am I not excited? I'm listening to Michael Jackson's new song! I didn't even know about the controversy, but perhaps it was my heart trying to tell me something. Perhaps that it wasn't Michael? I just don't know. Some parts are definitely him, but that's not enough. I'm fine with background singers, but lead vocals, I won't accept nothing less than 100% MJ. That's all we have left now, his music, his voice, would anyone REALLY have the conscience to deprive us of that, too?! And put some wannabe's voice in? I sincerily hope not.
I can't take this shit anymore.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

I'm going to try & be positive.There are real songs with Michael out there & we will hear them.Hopefully sooner rather than later.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

I had a beautiful dream tonight and for a moment I forgot about this nightmare we're in from yesterday. Well, till now.
Thank you SC05 for the update.
I am mad. I mean - how do they even could think about it?! Not mention how did they dare to really publish it? They're not respecting nor Michael nor us!
I'd find the song ok, if they have told us from the very begging: we had too less MJ's vocals to finish the song, so it's gonna be some kind of collaboration. And if they won't release it as MJ's song but as (I don't know) Michael Jackson feat. Malachi/whoever. But they cheated, they officially lied to us! This is something I can't even imagine in my poor stupid mind, but hey - this is happening. God...
From months we hear they've got hundreds of unreleased almost finished songs and we get something like that.
I really wish now, they'd just give us the demos, unfinished, untouched - but at least with Michael's vocals on them.
I don't know. I feel like in Twilight Zone or like in Matrix. I wanna get out.
Shall we take some legal steps against them? Or what shall we do? Where is it all going right now?
:doh:

I agree -- leaving the unfinished tracks as they were or finishing them up doesn't bother me as much as being lied to, which sucks big time.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

Compare. It's not him, guys. I want it to be, but none of the qualities that gave MJ his status as the greatest artist to ever exist are present in Breaking News.

The Butterflies acapella is for seminars :punk:. There is no way you can find any vibrato there sounding like 0:43 vibrato from Breaking News acapella
 
so I just went on Jason Malachi's myspace...not sure if he runs it or what but this was posted on it:

JASON MALACHI

The TMZ Mystery Man, finally revealed–We’ll, he’s Jason Malachi, mystery solved!!! With all of the latest controversy and uproar surrounding Jason’s new songs being mistakenly attributed to the late Great Michael Jackson; Media outlets have embarked on an all out free-for-all. With hundreds of thousands of Myspace hits and millions of YouTube hits, Jason once and for all wants the record cleared.
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

if it wasnt for sony, we probably would've had that album by now.

yeah, and especially during his life! They wanted him dead to capitalize his death and make more money without financing videos. Bet they were salivating toward this.....




Also they didn't have anymore faith in him. After History and BOTDF, they tried to pressure him immensely. They wanted radio friendly songs not like in History.... Invincible is the result, and even so I adore this album. Mike was there for extravagant mixing, for extraordinary singing, background vocals, everything is polished perfectly.

History was natural point of musical evolution where Mike was, I've also heard that he composed clasical music. A producer from England has now music for a clasical cd. Sony didn't approach him!

They wanted to box Mike in something 'hot' and radio friendly.... That's why Mike wasn't encouraged to release.... all those years ( exception of course for the trials and year after, he couldnt ) he was rushed to work with hot producers as Will I Am and Akon. And Mike, weakened by trial, harsh critics, he tried and tried..... I think nothing probably notable came out of those collaborations....
Also they were ashamed of his recent appearance/face. All recent musical covers are sketches, or paintings...... Do they think we are that stupid to not observe this???:smilerolleyes:

They made him waste his precious time on Earth with their stupidity. The same with touring and making many many concerts in England.
If Mike wouldn't been pressured to sign that contract, today he would be very much alike, and probably with an album out. :no: The insomnia would have not gotten worse, and Murray would not appear in Mike house. Cause and effect....


Instead of treasuring him, of buying him a record studio on his birthday, encourage to compose and record comfortably, more and more, in his free natural style.... They gave him pressure, stress, bad advices, pushed him in wrong directions ( touring ) making him loosing time with sub par producers. Akon is not on Mike level, Will I am the same....
Now I see that even Teddy Riley is so off......



I completely know NOW who was the real man behind all, even the mixing. Simple, Michael Jackson.

When he is not here, they are doing a mess including Teddy Riley. Ignore the voice for a while and look at the mixing. Where are the REAL instruments?? Where is the extravagant, extraordinary mixing that Mike would have been content with?? :doh:
 
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so I just went on Jason Malachi's myspace...not sure if he runs it or what but this was posted on it:

JASON MALACHI

The TMZ Mystery Man, finally revealed–We’ll, he’s Jason Malachi, mystery solved!!! With all of the latest controversy and uproar surrounding Jason’s new songs being mistakenly attributed to the late Great Michael Jackson; Media outlets have embarked on an all out free-for-all. With hundreds of thousands of Myspace hits and millions of YouTube hits, Jason once and for all wants the record cleared.

That's been up for a while; at one point in like 2007 there was this controversy about whether JM's songs were MJ unreleased tracks but then everything came out. Funny how HIStory repeats itself though....
 
Re: "Breaking News" General Discussion Here

I don't know why everyone seems to be talking as if Sony are the ones who arranged all of the fake vocals.

It's the Cascio's who handed these tracks over to the estate. They're the ones who (successfully) tried to deceive the Estate. Sony may very well believe that they are authentic. Don't forget, these people are businessmen, not music fans. Perhaps they really are that stupid??
 
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