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AP: Jackson was healthy

A. Sizzle said:
I'm with you on that one.

On another note, I've been watching CNN for about 90 minutes and they've yet to report this, yet I remember them reporting about his drug use in the early 90s and how he may have been addicted again when he passed

This shit is ridiculous
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i have been flipping back and forth between fox and cnn. they are not covering it either.
What a surprise?
 
i can't stop crying. it's unbearable. the only thing i can think about is IT WAS NOT HIS TIME TO GO. It was not his time to go.

I hate this. I want to wake up and find out that it was just a crazy nightmare.
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
But wait, they said no illegal pills were found. But it does say other sedatives were found.......so what about that?
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It's the benzodiazepines that were found in his system!! when you apply BDZs by their own they are not harmful and patients rarely overdose on a single type of BDZ. However Dr death is believed to have applied multiple types of BDZs after administring the Propofol which has caused MJ's breathing to slow down and eventually stop, resulting in a cardiac arrest. At this point Murray could've easily save MJ by giving him normal CPR...but we all know what happened!! MJ was surely killed there is no doubt about that!!
 
I am heartbroken.
Part of me kinda wished that he had been a mess. In a way it would have been easier to accept that he died.

But there was just need or reason for him to die. He could have lived, performed, had more children. His body and health wasnt holding him back.
 
So sad. He was absolutely fine, why did he had to be killed.

So unfair, so tragic.
 
I'd love to spend ten minutes in a room with Murray...


..oh if you look at the video where MJ is rehearsing TDCAU for TII, he claps his hands and then shakes them like it hurt... :(

Long Live The King
 
mjjfan4ever said:
i have been flipping back and forth between fox and cnn. they are not covering it either.
What a surprise?
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If it was found out that Mike was an unhealthy drug addict it would have been all over the media by now as main headline news but because it isn't something negative about Mike they ignore it or don't make a big deal about it

It's sick just sick
 
We MIGHT see it on AC360 or Campbell Brown show tonight. I'm not surpise, IF it was a slow news day they might have shown it. BUT it defty polly see it in Entertainment shows (ET, AH etc)
 
Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
But wait, they said no illegal pills were found. But it does say other sedatives were found.......so what about that?
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Remember Murray said he was giving Michael a "cocktail" of sedatives, anti-anxiety pills, etc. to wean him off the IV meds (supposedly!). Pills taken the eve before would have been totally digested (nothing in the stomach), but the chemicals might still have been in the bloodstream. They weren't illegal, but by prescription.

Even if Murray had been at Michael's bedside when he stopped breathing, he still didn't know proper CPR!!! He was an incompetant, idiot ! If 911 would have been called instantly when the respiratory arrest happened, (the paramedics arrived in 3 min after they were eventually called), our Michael might still be alive today!!!! God this makes me soooo upset! Murray is for sure a murderer!
 
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jfleenor2 said:
Even if Murray had been at Michael's bedside when he stopped breathing, he still didn't know proper CPR!!! He was an incompetant, idiot ! If 911 would have been called instantly when the respiratory arrest happened, (the paramedics arrived in 3 min after they were eventually called), our Michael might still be alive today!!!! God this makes me soooo upset! Murray is for sure a murder!
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I agree. And it's so tragic that Michael trusted such a "doctor" and put his life in his hands. According to La Toya, Paris said Murray was "the best cardiologist in the world". I think Michael for some reason really thought Murray was the best (and told his kids that) and trusted him completely. Oh man... Why is this happehing.
 
why wait two months to say this stuff? what does face scarring and neck scarring and lip tattoos have to do with cause of death?

since when does an autopsy report sound like a tabloid?

i notice that the bottom of that article said to refer to them for more gossip. i already read the article at the actual link location.
 
Andrew Ryan said:
It's the benzodiazepines that were found in his system!! when you apply BDZs by their own they are not harmful and patients rarely overdose on a single type of BDZ. However Dr death is believed to have applied multiple types of BDZs after administring the Propofol which has caused MJ's breathing to slow down and eventually stop, resulting in a cardiac arrest. At this point Murray could've easily save MJ by giving him normal CPR...but we all know what happened!! MJ was surely killed there is no doubt about that!!
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You mean...Murray calling 911 and saying he was not breathing..and his way of CPR being 'performing it on someone who was lying on a bed, instead of on the floor ' right? :(
 
vncwilliam said:
why wait two months to say this stuff? what does face scarring and neck scarring and lip tattoos have to do with cause of death?
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Not all findings have something to do with cause of death. But during autopsy they should report everything they find regardless how important or unimportant it seems. So they should report every tiny scar etc. It's a usual procedure.
 
mjjfan4ever said:
i have been flipping back and forth between fox and cnn. they are not covering it either.
What a surprise?
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I am going to give them time since this just came out. But I wont be surprise. The same is with radio host. I am waiting to see tomorrow. I will be watching Nancy, Jane, Oreilly, Larry King, ANderson Cooper, the VIew, etc.
 
we are all true Michael Jackson fans here.....so why are we all so suprised at the results of this report???....And as fans we already KNEW the truth about Michael....we KNEW he was NOT a drug addict....I do understand that people think.... well now maybe the tabloids and the haters will shut up....but guess what ...they wont they will only find something else to pick on him for....so to them tabloids..I say ..Kiss Michael's ass.....I for one am not too moved by this report...for this reason.....I already knew what kind of person was...I already knew he was not drug addict...the only thing that I didnt know was how much he weighed...I call Karen and Frank both liars...their 108-160 pound differences are just to wide of a margin for me..both just trying to cover their guilt in this whole event..IMHO......I just feel sorry that all of Micheal's private business has been dragged through the media for all to see.....I am waiting for Murray to be handcuffed and carted of to jail...my instincts tell me he wont last to long in there....
 
I am not surprised at all. From day one I was sure Michael didn't die a natural death.
 
It sounds pretty bad to me...olay he was healthy, but there a lot of things to take from that that aren't very positive. I actually hope it isn't reported on the news. Sometimes no coverage is better than any coverage.
eg, the fact that they say he was going bald...Michael jackson bald, kinda weird to me. I know that is daft but it is strange to think of him like that.
 
kathiejmie said:
Not all findings have something to do with cause of death. But during autopsy they should report everything they find regardless how important or unimportant it seems. So they should report every tiny scar etc. It's a usual procedure.
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no it's not a usual proceedure..i heard about the report of DJ Am...nothing tabloidy was said on that one. it stayed specifically on topic, about cause of death..nothing more. same with Anna Nicole Smith and Heath Ledger.

i watched the vid to this MJ article..the anchors seemed insecure, and were comparing the listed weight to what a normal man should be, and the male reporter was acting like he was trying to come up with more reasons why one should be baffled about someone being loved and adored. it was a totally tabloid video, senseless, and was far from what i'd expect from non yellow journalism.
 
The bottom line this will shut those idoits down who want say Michael was an addict. This changes everything. This show called Bob and Sherry show lived on this issue of Michael being an addict when he died. I want to hear them tomorrow.
 
I am 5'9 and I weigh 145 lbs. Up until last spring, I always weighed 130-135lbs and I was never unhealthy. I'm very healthy and active. That is a completely normal weight. Michael like myself was a skinny person from birth. Some people just don't gain weight as fast as others.
 
terrell said:
I am crying. This hurts so much. Each time these reports come out, it just gets worst and worst to know that Michael should be here.
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I second that. There was no reason for what happened to Michael. He was healthy with the naturalities for somebody his age. And this report only proves it further.
 
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Staffordshire Bullterrier said:
You mean...Murray calling 911 and saying he was not breathing..and his way of CPR being 'performing it on someone who was lying on a bed, instead of on the floor ' right? :(
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The assumption here is that Murray found MJ after some time that MJ stopped breathing and again he was not able to give him proper CPR and after a long time of unsuccesful CPR on the bed he calls the ambulance. In reality you should call the ambulance as soon as you see the signs of cardiac arrest or the inability to breath! Excessive CPR has caused MJ's ribs to be broken, this usually happens when you try hard to revive somebody during a long period.
 
xthunderx2 said:
we are all true Michael Jackson fans here.....so why are we all so suprised at the results of this report???....And as fans we already KNEW the truth about Michael....we KNEW he was NOT a drug addict....I do understand that people think.... well now maybe the tabloids and the haters will shut up....but guess what ...they wont they will only find something else to pick on him for....so to them tabloids..I say ..Kiss Michael's ass.....I for one am not too moved by this report...for this reason.....I already knew what kind of person was...I already knew he was not drug addict...the only thing that I didnt know was how much he weighed...I call Karen and Frank both liars...their 108-160 pound differences are just to wide of a margin for me..both just trying to cover their guilt in this whole event..IMHO......I just feel sorry that all of Micheal's private business has been dragged through the media for all to see.....I am waiting for Murray to be handcuffed and carted of to jail...my instincts tell me he wont last to long in there....
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i agree with you 100%.

but you, i , others have been fighting this "drug addict" thing even on this site, so i am just glad there is proof that they can EAT.

you are definitely right... vast majority of us know what type of a person MJ is so therefore this isn't for us. it is for the haters, media, and everyone else to digest. sadly, to many this won't mean a damn thing.
 
I know this will probably get a lot of people against me, but I think AEG and Sony might be behind these reports to get themselves off the hook.

"Michael Bearden, musical director for Michael Jackson's "This Is It" tour, just told TMZ the Coroner's findings debunk naysayers who claimed Jackson was too weak to perform."

http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/01/mj-band-leader-autopsy-vindicates-jackson/#ixzz0SiRsTIBf


Even though I personally don't think Michael was a drug addict, I do believe he was not ready to do the shows and they are just trying to prove that Michael was healthy and ready to do the shows.
 
Andrew Ryan said:
The assumption here is that Murray found MJ after some time that MJ stopped breathing and again he was not able to give him proper CPR and after a long time of unsuccesful CPR on the bed he calls the ambulance. In reality you should call the ambulance as soon as you see the signs of cardiac arrest or the inability to breath! Excessive CPR has caused MJ's ribs to be broken, this usually happens when you try hard to revive somebody during a long period.
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But how possible is the chance ...that this wasn't murder but simply completely ONE STUPID ASS doctor who didn't know what the hell to do? It is possible.
 
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