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AP: Jackson was healthy

What, Nothing crazy about it at all, Murray had almost 4 hours to do whatever he wanted to do to mikes body. The attempted cover up is obvious. He was trying to make mike look like an addict, why wouldn't it be important to know it the marks where fresh or old. The Prosecution would want to know.


Sifa_Dias said:
I think that's a little crazy. I think we need to accept they were there. If he did that right after, the paramedics would've seen that it was fresh, and it would've certainly been mentioned.
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Exactly Bgz. Think of the many times my sister got punctured and you can't see them even if you were at close view. The puncture sites heals with even 16 gauge needles (I think these are the largest bore needles used in medicine).

Which is why I say that report is in summary form because the report like that is vague and leaves even more questions.
 
terrell said:
I agree. I just do not know what to do. And Michael, this man wanted to live. SO all that mess from the Rabbi, LMP about Michael dying like her daddy, so friends, tabloid media, etc, SHUT UP!!
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thank you:clapping:

sunnydancer said:
I know. That guy makes me sick!
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they'll find a way to dispute and disparage the facts. they won't accept any good in Michael.
 
Silentstar01 said:
Now let Justice be Served! UGH this pisses me off! Michael was absolutely NOT a drug addict and if one more media vulture announces it I am hunt them down and toilet paper their house!
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I NEVER believed that either ( MJ being a drug addict) and why did I not believe this ? Because of his children whom he loved more than anything.
I think this information was leaked to the press to refute Murray's defense of being a druggie. In the month of October Murray will be charged with second degree murder and in a trial he will be found guilty, mark my words I'm sure of it! ( It is much easier to get a conviction on second degree murder than on manslaughter and the evidence is piling up).
he's dead meat!

I will help you with the toilet papering of the houses ( and more, lol)
 
whats chopra and all the others gonna say now. place your bets for the excuses they come up with
 
Don't get me started on Chopra. because he found himself in front of the cameras so soon after MJ left. He was so transparent to me. Some of us need to learn to tame our tongues.

BTW, maybe we need a thread with all the "coroner's reports". I believe the report that said MJ was bald came from a UK tabloid. But it would be interesting to have them in one thread so we can compare the notes and the sources.
 
meena76_4MJJ_4Ever said:
What, Nothing crazy about it at all, Murray had almost 4 hours to do whatever he wanted to do to mikes body. The attempted cover up is obvious. He was trying to make mike look like an addict, why wouldn't it be important to know it the marks where fresh or old. The Prosecution would want to know.
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It WOULD be important, and you're right. It's not crazy, at all. The media have been trying to make Michael look like an addict, but finally, now, we have a report that says there were no narcotics (or alcohol) in his system. And finally, we can put to rest "stories" that he was sterile. He was perfectly capable of having children. Also OVER is any doubt that he had vitiligo. He DID have it.

This is not looking good for Murray. Finally. I just want the truth to come out.

(I believe the "108 pounds at the mortician," comes directly from Karen Faye.)
 
Sifa_Dias said:
I think that's a little crazy. I think we need to accept they were there. If he did that right after, the paramedics would've seen that it was fresh, and it would've certainly been mentioned.
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There is always the possibility that there could of been "extra" marks left by murray.

If there are fresh marks we won't know until this goes to court. Info like that would not be released to the public.
 
I wonder how long it's gonna be untill Uri Geller raises his ugly head once more.
 
Victoria83 said:
It WOULD be important, and you're right. It's not crazy, at all.
(I believe the "108 pounds at the mortician," comes directly from Karen Faye.)
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She was the one who claimed the 108 lb weight on her FB time and time again.

And people on her facebbook are now challenging the Autopsy Report. Making it sound like it was fake and made up. One poster even made it sound like AEG paid the pathologist to lie....isn't that illegal? BTW *This is not a direct quote from karen but one of her fans on her FB* but Karen is very pissed right now as she posted on her FB. Why? Isn't the truth important? I don't know why she's so defensive. Perhaps because she was caught lying about his weight at the time of his death. Bye Bye book sales....

For the record, I believe the autopsy report over anyone. It's illegal what people are saying about an autopsy coverup. The man was a healthy 50 year old man. His main ailment was Lupus and vitiligo and normal arthiritus(sp?) which happens when you age. There was no reason for this brilliant talent to have died.
 
This would also explain why he had back pain during the trial. And some folks thought he was faking that back issue (i.e. NAncy Grace.)
 
starlightdancer said:
Yeah it does.

And people on her facebbook are now challenging the Autopsy Report. Making it sound like it was fake and made up. One poster even made it sound like AEG paid the pathologist to lie....isn't that illegal? BTW *This is not a direct quote from karen but one of her fans on her FB* but Karen is very pissed right now as she posted on her FB. Why? Isn't the truth important? I don't know why she's so defensive. Perhaps because she was caught lying about his weight at the time of his death. Bye Bye book sales....

For the record, I believe the autopsy report over anyone. It's illegal what people are saying about an autopsy coverup. The man was a healthy 50 year old man. His main ailment was Lupus and vitiligo and normal arthiritus(sp?) which happens when you age. There was no reason for this brilliant talent to have died.
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i believe the autopsy. These people make a living out of finding FAULTS and PROBLEMS with body. If there was something wrong, they would say it.
 
terrell said:
i believe the autopsy. These people make a living out of finding FAULTS and PROBLEMS with body. If there was something wrong, they would say it.
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I agree. Karen's pissed because she was busted with her weight lies. She wasn't as close to him as she claims. Who even knows if she even put on his makeup for the funeral...I don't believe anything from her anymore. This autopsy findings solidifies it for me. The Jackson's also had thier own independant autopsy done. Was that released? The one that was released was from the LA County Morgue. They are a respectable institution who have done many celeb autopsies in the past. From Marilyn Monroe all the way to MJ. Accusing the LA Count Morgue of "cleaning the autopsy to favor AEG" as Karen fans are claiming on her FB is a slap to their faces.
 
I'm glad the fact that Michael was in most respects healthy is out, but this report actually made me feel ill. Look what happened to our MJ...
 
Victoria83 said:
It WOULD be important, and you're right. It's not crazy, at all. The media have been trying to make Michael look like an addict, but finally, now, we have a report that says there were no narcotics (or alcohol) in his system. And finally, we can put to rest "stories" that he was sterile. He was perfectly capable of having children. Also OVER is any doubt that he had vitiligo. He DID have it.

This is not looking good for Murray. Finally. I just want the truth to come out.

(I believe the "108 pounds at the mortician," comes directly from Karen Faye.)
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I agree with you Victoria. I feel so sick and upset by reading this about Michael. I just wish they get Dr. Murderer and just throw him in prison where he forever belongs. This just makes the reality of that horrible nightmare that I had. A little more than a week after it happen. All the more real then. It is no wonder why I have such bad insomnia now.
 
Not to mention that MJ didn't look like no 108. He looked way worse in 2003 when he was arrested and there his face was soooooooooooooo gaunt. And then he was all of 120. So if some folks were being a bit more sensible about all of this , they would be able to put two and two together.

There were other things going on yes, but I wonder if some of this drama isn't to cover up the bigger issues at hand.
 
starlightdancer said:
She was the one who claimed the 108 lb weight on her FB time and time again.

And people on her facebbook are now challenging the Autopsy Report. Making it sound like it was fake and made up. One poster even made it sound like AEG paid the pathologist to lie....isn't that illegal? BTW *This is not a direct quote from karen but one of her fans on her FB* but Karen is very pissed right now as she posted on her FB. Why? Isn't the truth important? I don't know why she's so defensive. Perhaps because she was caught lying about his weight at the time of his death. Bye Bye book sales....

For the record, I believe the autopsy report over anyone. It's illegal what people are saying about an autopsy coverup. The man was a healthy 50 year old man. His main ailment was Lupus and vitiligo and normal arthiritus(sp?) which happens when you age. There was no reason for this brilliant talent to have died.
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At first I was suspicious of the report, but now have reason to believe it's accurate. Yes, it would be illegal to pay the pathologist to lie. (Illegalities happen all the time. . . . . you'd be amazed, really.) But it seems now that this is not the case, here.

It would seem that she lied about his weight and is now being defensive. Book deal in the toilet. . . . . . . is my guess.
 
Trish said:
SO...

6 weeks before Michael's death - that's when everyone around him started noticing a difference in look and behavior from Michael. 6 weeks before MJ's death is the exact time that Murray started to treat Michael for insomnia.

Michael was drug intoxicated you guys and not of his own doing. Michael was inappropriately drugged by a doctor who MURDERED HIM. The coroner found Ephedrine in Michael's system which is used in conjunction with anesthesia to combat a sudden blood pressure drop. Question is, how much anesthesia did Murray truly give Michael over those 6 weeks? How many near death episodes did Michael have in those 6 weeks before he died? And if people (beside the follower fans) noticed something was wrong, why was nothing done to stop this? If Randy Phillips noticed something was wrong (to the point of hiring someone to feed Michael) then why didn't he postpone the damn shows until they figured out that something was WRONG?

So many questions.....
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completely agree with you Trish.

qbee said:
He was on the thin side as always maybe a little more than usual
but he was not sick _ his body was over all healthy - he didnt die
becuase he was unhealthy _he dided becuase of a propoful overdose
and the doctor was not in his room to revive him when he stopped
his breathing _ Michael did not have any disease or sickness that was
life threatening _

I didnt see signs that he was sick ..
just that he was thin (which is nor abnormal for ) Michael and he was working on that.

Michael didnt die becuase he was weak or thin or sick
he was overdosed on propoful period ..
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this whole thing just makes me angry and sad...they need to arrest Dr Death. :blowup:
 
Prince Of Pop said:
I think we all should have a "Tabloid Junkie" moment. Pick a time in the day and play that song. ;)
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I'm with you on that one.

On another note, I've been watching CNN for about 90 minutes and they've yet to report this, yet I remember them reporting about his drug use in the early 90s and how he may have been addicted again when he passed

This shit is ridiculous
 
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