Xscape General Discussion

Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Isn't Hot Street the demo and Slapstick being the complete version ? I actually feel like Hot street being more polished, though I enjoy some vocal parts from Slapstick lol
no, Hot Street is the final version. It was actually on the first 10-track (never released) Thriller album.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Whaaatt!!!! Hang on I've just discovered 4 or 5 Thriller era songs that I didn't know about? Where did they come from all of a sudden? Hot Street, Slapstick, Trouble, Night Line ....any more? Why so many leaked Thriller outtakes?

They've been available on youtube for AGES! also on torrent sites...

i found BTM demo on a torrent site, its 1 of my fave demos ever!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

They've been available on youtube for AGES! also on torrent sites...

i found BTM demo on a torrent site, its 1 of my fave demos ever!

BTM as Behind the Mask? That one is fake.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

no, Hot Street is the final version. It was actually on the first 10-track (never released) Thriller album....

....But Rod Temperton thought it was too weak.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

....But Rod Temperton thought it was too weak.
it was actually Q. Too bad that TGIM was already sent out to radio stations at the time of 1st album mastering, otherwise Hot Street could have been (probably) saved.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

There are definite gems that were leaked or released on a small scale like box sets that I'm glad I've heard but wish had a larger release... We can say they should have done this or that but the fact is it's been done.. We can't forget that te songs that were on ultimate collection was MJs choice.. He had to present unreleased material to release due to obligations in sony contract and he decided to use we've had enough etc.. So for that you can't really be mad at the estate or even Sony for that matter.. He could have used anything from archived music or just make a crappy song to save the good ones for later
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

?Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am still looking for a Michael visual to replace my ha ha's.

That ad in the store is striking.
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Personally, I do not want other producers going into Michael's catalog and contemporizing any of it. I enjoy those songs as they are in the state they were released.

I understand what is happening with Xscape. For those songs to have purchasing appeal, Estate/Sony salvaged what they could and had those songs remixed. I believe it was a good idea that all of the songs on Xscape were contemporized bar none. As much as I enjoy the leaked mix of Xscape (and others), I understand it would sound dated.

It is one of the Cascio tracks considered for MICHAEL album. The final version was produced by Burt Bacharach. I doubt Michael had anything to do with that or any other Cascio song. Maybe he did wrote parts of it. The song leaked in 2010.

Michael didn't write any portion of "All I Need". I don't recall such a thing ever being stated either. I remember hearing that there might actually be a Michael "All I Need", but it's totally different from the Cascio track under the same name.

Thank you for the responses. Just to clarify: Stay, All I Need & Burn Tonight are not Michael Jackson songs. They were to be on the Michael cd but, did not appear for whatever reasons.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

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wow ,where is it!!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

How many copies do you guys think Xscape will sell?
I'd say around 320,000 in the US during first week of sales.
Sony will ship over 1,000,000 copies, so it will debut platinum as the "Michael" album.

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An estimated 100,000 copies will be downloaded from Sony's Xperia app, which all count towards the sales.

I would predict it selling 1,200,000 copies worldwide during its first week.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Contemporizing songs is unnecessary; completing songs is very necessary.

Take I Am a Loser. That song, vocally, is about 95% finished, but musically is lacking. Maybe pump up the drums a little bit, add some effects to the vocals/instruments and make it powerful. Keep the essence, keep the feel; just finish what Michael left behind.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

AlwaysThere, I agree. ^^

I disagree with taking a lesser known song like Hot Street and/or We Had Enough and contemporizing it. I do not see the purpose in that. Xscape's success will be great however; no need to raid Michael's back catalog and remix. Better to take these unreleased demos in various stages of completion and remix in my view.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Contemporizing songs is unnecessary; completing songs is very necessary.

Take I Am a Loser. That song, vocally, is about 95% finished, but musically is lacking. Maybe pump up the drums a little bit, add some effects to the vocals/instruments and make it powerful. Keep the essence, keep the feel; just finish what Michael left behind.

I say, they take 'I Was The Loser' out of the vault, Add some synthesisers, Loop the ending ad libs for a little longer. As we all know, this song was on Michael's handwritten notes to be released in London during his comeback shows! Maybe the next album could also feature Can't Get Your Weight Off Me, Shut Up & Dance, I Have This Dream, Silent Spring, Adore You, Remember What I Told You, Throwing Your Life Away (2000's Re Worked Version) & the final mix of Beautiful Girl + possible new recorded version of Scared Of The Moon, Brad Buxer + Michael Prince Song's & Maybe a song from the Red One and Theron Feemster sessions also.

Back on topic, if I buy the Sony High Res Headphones.. Would I receive 'Xscape' free of charge in High Fidelity?
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Back on topic, if I buy the Sony High Res Headphones.. Would I receive 'Xscape' free of charge in High Fidelity?

Before you do that you should think about getting some REALLY good headphones from Beyerdynamic or Sennheiser & pay for the High Res Xscape Album at a High Res music store...
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Before you do that you should think about getting some REALLY good headphones from Beyerdynamic or Sennheiser & pay for the High Res Xscape Album at a High Res music store...

Can you recommend some good headphones?
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

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HaHaHaHaaaaa... ;-)

Can you recommend some good headphones?


Well, didn't i just do that?
You need to know what you want & what your goal is.
Do you want to be trendy & have the "booming" sound? Beats by Dre could be your (expensive) choice.
If you want to enjoy high clarity & a sound true to it's original production, you should go with a pair of headphones, which may be not the most popular & stylish, but with a pair which pays more attention to accurate sound.
For the second option you should check out some Beyerdynamic's or Sennheiser's.

It depends of course on how much money you want to spend.
But if you considered, let's say, paying 300 bucks for some Beats by Dre, you should seriously think again & maybe spent the same amount or even lesser on some of the headphones from the brands i mentioned. You'll def get better headphones for less money. Or way better headphones for the same amount of money.
Or some of the best headphones ever made for much more money, like the T1 or T5 (Beyerdynamic) or the HD 800 / HD 700 from Sennheiser.
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

^
HaHaHaHaaaaa... ;-)

Well, didn't i just do that?
You need to know what you want & what your goal is.
Do you want to be trendy & have the "booming" sound? Beats by Dre could be your (expensive) choice.
If you want to enjoy high clarity & a sound true to it's original production, you should go with a pair of headphones, which may be not the most popular & stylish, but with a pair which pays more attention to accurate sound.
For the second option you should check out some Beyerdynamic's or Sennheiser's.

300$ so expensive! XD

I'll have to start putting money aside for it
 
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Don't buy anything related to Beats By Dre. They are THE most insanely overpriced headphones

I can really recommend Koss Porta Pro. Superb sound and a price around 50 dollars.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

wow ,where is it!!

Not my photo, but that looks like JB Hi-Fi, quite a popular music/movies/games/electronics shop in New Zealand and Australia (dunno which country that photo was taken in though).
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

@Dorian
It depends what you are used to and what you expect from a headphone. There are open ones where everybody in the room will also hear the sound. With closed ones less sound will 'get out'. Open ones are easier for your ear and long listening sessions! If you want to have a more or less neutral sound which doesn't add anything to the music, I can recommend you my sennheiser hd 595 which have an open build. New they cost like 400 dollars, but you could get used ones for like 140. Used ones might actually better because some people say headphones have to 'burn in' for like 100 hours to get the best possible sound. There are of course even better headphones, the diffrence will be noticable but no quantum leap.
As was said, I read beats by dr. Dre are fancy and all, but you can get better ones with more accurate sound for the same price. In general I would recommend to read a lot of reviews and if you can test them at a store with an MJ track you know inside out and know how it should sound.
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.


DID ANYBODY SEE THIS? IS IT REAL?!
 
I really hope that opportunities for promotion of Xscape are not being missed. After producing some very nice artwork via Mr Brainwash, I really don't see it being used very much. There may be a few (very small and hard to find) stickers in London...but I wonder what else is planned. I really hope there will be more 'art' / art used at events. 'Street style art is very ' current' and can help to set a modern vibe, which is surely what the 'contemporizing' is all about.

In the last week, I understand Mr Brainwash has been promoting Rita Ora's new album on the Jimmy Fallon Tonight show,

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and this is what is planned for Santana's new album release in late June:

Julien’s is also pleased to announce the sale of a musically inspired mural which will be painted on stage in New York City by graffiti artist Crash while guitarist Carlos Santana simultaneously performs live during an HBO event marking the release of his new album. The piece will be signed by both Crash and Santana, and the proceeds gained from the auction of the work will benefit Santana’s Milagro Foundation charity.

http://www.juliensauctions.com/auctions/2014/street-art/index.html

Maybe this period is just the 'calm before the storm' (re Xscape promotion), but I am starting to feel a bit frustrated about the 'silence' .....
I know MJ isn't here to pour paint over, or sign murals, but I do hope that the promoters have 'something' up their sleeves involving the artwork they've had created! (Maybe for a single cover??)
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

It's actually hard to believe that a new album is coming!!!
:) :) :D only 12 days till the release in my country!!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

@Dorian
It depends what you are used to and what you expect from a headphone. There are open ones where everybody in the room will also hear the sound. With closed ones less sound will 'get out'. Open ones are easier for your ear and long listening sessions! If you want to have a more or less neutral sound which doesn't add anything to the music, I can recommend you my sennheiser hd 595 which have an open build. New they cost like 400 dollars, but you could get used ones for like 140. Used ones might actually better because some people say headphones have to 'burn in' for like 100 hours to get the best possible sound. There are of course even better headphones, the diffrence will be noticable but no quantum leap.
As was said, I read beats by dr. Dre are fancy and all, but you can get better ones with more accurate sound for the same price. In general I would recommend to read a lot of reviews and if you can test them at a store with an MJ track you know inside out and know how it should sound.

Although I am not a scientist, this doesn't sound logical. We are not talking about a car or any kind of mechanical machinery that needs time to get its best performance. The quality of sound will not only depend on the headphones selves, (of course some brands are specialized and are among the leaders), but the quality also depends on the appropriate cables through which sound goes through. It shouldn't be neither too thick (means loss of sound) nor to thin (means oversaturation), Also the shorter the cable, the better it is. Companies that finalize their products should know this and calculate the right proportions. Also, the type of wire they use is also important. Copper seems to be the best conductor. With the right proportions, nothing should "burn in".
 
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