Xscape General Discussion

Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

They should so release this "Do you know Where Your Children Are" .
I think it is imperative that they do.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

It may be a bonus remix on the CD single if released as a single.

As for the Tupac's relationship with MJ, Michael tried to get Pac and Biggie together on this time around, as both of them shared a beef. Sadly he got only Biggie...

Apparently 2Pac wanted MJ to sing the chorus for his track Thug Nature they were both too busy
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

He sampled "Liberian Girl" in his song "(Letter To) My Unborn Child".

He also sampled "Human Nature" here:



I've always thought of TDCAU while listening to this:

2Pac didn't have anything to do with the sampling of Liberian Girl, the producer that worked on the posthumous album did (until the end of time)
this is the ORIGINAL version before it was remixed for the album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC72SEzl2Oc
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I agree. And I can imagine 2pac fans would not be overjoyed about it either. Musically his Estate has already tried to squeeze every single thing they can get out of what 2pac left behind, is this really necessary? On top of that, Changes (which is already a posthumously finished track, but at least based heavily on the original demo) is one of his best known songs. So many people know it - it would just sound cheap. Would we like it if someone would sample a verse from Man in the Mirror? I hope the answer is no...

Sure, it's okay for a remix and all. But if that were to be used as a serious way to promote this album (which I do not think is the case at all), I personally think it'd be lame and pretty cheap.

Changes wasn't really finished they used a whole verse from a earlier track called I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto which was on the album R U Still Down (Remember Me)
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Xscape is now not even in top 300 album list on iTunes. :(
I think a single soon would be a smart move.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

2Pac didn't have anything to do with the sampling of Liberian Girl, the producer that worked on the posthumous album did (until the end of time)
this is the ORIGINAL version before it was remixed for the album

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC72SEzl2Oc

Actually 2Pac himself sampled Liberian Girl on another song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p8r4t0cVi4

Lyric:
Pac Speaking
Hey um I like that beat that MC Lyte got
Johhny J flip that shit lets do that shit over

He talks about Liberian Girl sample. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP15XPi0Kh8

Producers added Liberain Girl to Letter To My Unborn Child.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

a just released teaser of one of the hottest grp out there has over 20k likes in 10minutes whereas MJ's album teaser has only 8K likes and less than a million views one week after it's released.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Xscape is now not even in top 300 album list on iTunes. :(
I think a single soon would be a smart move.
sony/estate
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Learn something new everyday but he didn't for letter to my unborn child
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

they had better release a hot single asap if they want more attention for this album.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

a just released teaser of one of the hottest grp out there has over 20k likes in 10minutes whereas MJ's album teaser has only 8K likes and less than a million views one week after it's released.

If you expect a posthumus album to compete with the hottest current acts you only set yourself up for disappointment. MJ is not a current act. MJ also has nothing to prove any more. Fans need to keep their expectations in check.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I'd rather have a project on long term promoted like this instead of releasing everything in 2 days and then the hype to die fast.
there isnt even any hype surrounding the album teaser if there's any hype it only last for two days.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

If you expect a posthumus album to compete with the hottest current acts you only set yourself up for disappointment.

Also, why should an album that hasnt even been released yet be doing well in charts? If people are going to pre-order something, then they are obviously big fans. I would never pre -order an album unless I was a huge fan.

Relax people. Its a posthumous album that hasnt been released yet! It should do well after the release date haha!
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Also, why should an album that hasnt even been released yet be doing well in charts? If people are going to pre-order something, then they are obviously big fans. I would never pre -order an album unless I was a huge fan.

Relax people. Its a posthumous album that hasnt been released yet! It should do well after the release date haha!

I expect some people here act all gloom and doom if it does not sell like Thriller...
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

there isnt even any hype surrounding the album teaser if there's any hype it only last for two days.

Commercial from Time Square? Posters? News reports? Announcement? Sony Mobile partnership. Facebook/iTunes adverts. Twitter/FB/Youtube advertising.

What else would you expect? Branca and McClain to start performing the tracks on a world tour?
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Xscape is now not even in top 300 album list on iTunes. :(
I think a single soon would be a smart move.



http://kworb.net/aww/

Well, it's just outside the top 30 on this list.

Not 2Bad for an album with no confirmed track list and a release date still over three weeks away - wouldn't you agree?
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

there isnt even any hype surrounding the album teaser if there's any hype it only last for two days.

Hype doesn't mean that all your neighbors are going to stop living and praise MJ's posthumous unreleased and unheard album. Hype is when DJs are excited over MJ's new release and are eager to play, scratch, remix, butcher the songs in da clubs in addition to fans' excitement. But, if some fans are constantly disappointed and spread negativity like a disease, don't blame others for not getting carried away by the new releases.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I expect some people here act all gloom and doom if it does not sell like Thriller...
i'd be happy if it is the worldwide best selling album of 2014. i have realistic expectations.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

http://kworb.net/aww/

Well, it's just outside the top 30 on this list.

Not 2Bad for an album with no confirmed track list and a release date still over three weeks away - wouldn't you agree?

And posthumus album at that.

Fans should relax. If the singles will apply to the general public it will be a successful album, if not then not. As simple as that. The general public will not hype a posthumus album yet that they do not even know the content of.

What we had so far is that a couple of people (journalists mainly) could listen to the album. The reviews are mainly positive, so that's a good sign.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

i'd be happy if it is the worldwide best selling album of 2014. i have realistic expectations.

To expect it to be the bestselling album of 2014 is not realistic IMO. Like I said MJ is NOT a current artist. He cannot make new music, he cannot make new videos, he cannot promote it. It's irrealistic to expect him to compete with the hottest current acts. Of course, if it happens and he will have the biggest selling album of 2014 I will be more than happy about that. But to act like everything else would be a failure is just wrong.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

In the meantime, let's listen to one or two butchered songs:

Clubs in the summer 1988, who remembers this remix?




And this club awesome Stranger In Moscow remix:




MJ is there, and will soon be out there with the new album. As a fan, will you be there?
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

To expect it to be the bestselling album of 2014 is not realistic IMO. Like I said MJ is NOT a current artist. He cannot make new music, he cannot make new videos, he cannot promote it. It's irrealistic to expect him to compete with the hottest current acts. Of course, if it happens and he will have the biggest selling album of 2014 I will be more than happy about that. But to act like everything else would be a failure is just wrong.

Why not? If it's all about the music then it shouldn't be matter if the artist is "current" or not.




will you be there?

"Leave me alone"
 
I will think about Xscape chart position on the 13th of May…

Till then reading reviews and watching like listening Events are organized is fine for me.

I LOVE the news about Thriller, I love the cover and all the work that I’ve seen\heard so far.

IMO it is important to enjoy the moment !!!

 
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Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I imagine there will be something coming at least a month before release, mentioning of a single has been discussed by several people. Coming to promotion, i'm sure there will be advertisements leading up to the album's release. don't expect something close to what Michael did for HIStory though.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Don't get me wrong, Thriller will always have a special place in my heart because I discovered Michael with that album but I wish his 90's albums which are better were more celebrated. Even Sony/Estate put too much emphasis and effort on Thriller.

I hope to see real efforts from both Sony and the Estate to promote Xscape, I'd be ecstatic if it surpasses the previous releases.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

I expect some people here act all gloom and doom if it does not sell like Thriller...

There will be a lot of disappointed people then. I do have realistic expectations, and I do not think it will even come close to Thriller. I think it will do well, but not like that.

It bugs me when people want to compare everything to Thriller. I hate to disappoint people, but not everything with his name on it can do so well. If Xscape was to surpass Thriller, there would have to be something super-incredibly special about it, something that was more revolutionary than Thriller. And, as of this moment, I just do not see that with this album.
 
Re: News and discussion about new MJ album : Xscape, May 13, 2014.

Commercial from Time Square? Posters? News reports? Announcement? Sony Mobile partnership. Facebook/iTunes adverts. Twitter/FB/Youtube advertising.

What else would you expect? Branca and McClain to start performing the tracks on a world tour?

hahahhaha!
 
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