First of all, I'm not a girl. No hard feelings. I'm most certainly not taking anything personal nor have I judged you as a person. Whose taking things personally? I can only "judge" your attitude in responses to others. I'm simply defending my rights. Again, everything you said was just
your opinion. Just because
you say it, doesn't make it true. You can say I contradict myself all you like, but I'm not the one trying to tell another to view one of their favorite artists as media savvy only but not actually a talented artist. I find Madonna to be a very talented artist who has contributed more than her fair share to pop music. Madonna's music was always cutting edge and opening up a dialog like no other artist before her. Madonna challenged societies and their taboos through her music. I have heard so many of todays starlets refer to Madonna as their idol. Some very talented, some not so much [Miley Cyrus being the latest to declare her admiration]. I personally love how much thought goes in to her music, lyrics, videos, and stage shows. She takes risks and releases the kind of music she wants to no matter what anyone thinks [with varied results]. Madonna says and does as she pleases. No, you aren't a fan. No, you don't have to be one, but that doesn't mean that others can't see her as all the things that you don't. That's what you need to get. That's why I said you say things so matter of fact. As if just because you said it makes it true, and yet in the same breath tell me I'm wrong and don't know what I'm talking about. Erm.... ok. Saying/telling someone you accept opinions and let others have them and actually doing it is two different things.
And don't worry. I'm done with this whole thing. I've said all I can say and either way it will never be enough. It all comes down to opinion and so long as everyone can present theirs as actual opinion then all is well. I've presented my own ideals and backed them up and that's all I can do. You think Madonna is talentless as an artist. Fine. I don't. That's that. You can't expect me, as a fan, to not let my voice be heard or to challenge hostile views about one of my favorite artists. Opinions are made to be challenged. You don't have to change yours, but you can't expect everyone else to sit back quietly. We can all be heard but just keep it civil. That's where my problem with your opinions come in. I don't appreciate being called crazy. Suggesting that I don't know what I'm talking about- that is the exact type of attitude I have a problem with. I have never once during our back and forth debates taken things to a personal level. I can't say the same for you [whether you realized it or not which I'm guessing not]. You are always the first to say "Hey, it's just my opinion" and "Don't take it to a personal level" all the while presenting it as fact and knocking down anyone else that challenges you in any way you can. It doesn't work that way. I'm not upset with you and I'm letting it all go but I did feel it important to let you know that you're behavior at times needs adjustment. I wouldn't have said anything at all had you not said more or less that I'm clueless. That was mean spirited.
Again, I am not upset with you [also hoping you can take criticism as well as you dish it] and I hope that in the future things can be on a more civil level between us.
Thanks.
source:
http://www.egothemag.com/archives/2006/03/there_was_a_tim.htm