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When do you think Michael and Lisa last spoke?

When do you think they last spoke to each other?

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This stuff is interesting. Diana Ross? (Well, that's for totally different discussion.) I HAD to go back to page 1...I've got a lot of reading to do!!!
I'm not sure what's true and what's not...but it's interesting nonetheless.

I just hope Lisa can come out with what ACTUALLY happened in the next few years. We'd hopefully have some closure!
 
lol ladies... you're welcome. I am so sorry to have taken this long. I took a break from that thread for a while simply because I was sort of going through a tough coming to terms with his death. all of a sudden it seems so real -- the fact that he is gone. it just seemed so pointless to read about his love life. hence why I took a break from this thread as well.

anyway, good luck reading that HUMONGOUS thread :lol:

I am not finished yet and I am a speed reader. I guess I get distracted by all the youtube links they have :D

and I doubt Lisa will ever really tell the whole story about it. at least, if she's interested in keeping her current marriage intact, she shouldn't. and yes I do believe she still loved him and vice versa... to his dying day. there was a lot of love and passion there... just not the possibility of being together, at least, in THIS world -- just like she once said.
 
indranee said:
lol ladies... you're welcome. I am so sorry to have taken this long. I took a break from that thread for a while simply because I was sort of going through a tough coming to terms with his death. all of a sudden it seems so real -- the fact that he is gone. it just seemed so pointless to read about his love life. hence why I took a break from this thread as well.

anyway, good luck reading that HUMONGOUS thread :lol:

I am not finished yet and I am a speed reader. I guess I get distracted by all the youtube links they have :D

and I doubt Lisa will ever really tell the whole story about it. at least, if she's interested in keeping her current marriage intact, she shouldn't. and yes I do believe she still loved him and vice versa... to his dying day. there was a lot of love and passion there... just not the possibility of being together, at least, in THIS world -- just like she once said.
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The thread is interesting but it'll go off on tangents; like talking about JW religion or incorrect earlier speculations about how and why he died. The info supposedly from Frank Cascio is really interesting.

IMO Lisa would never mention certain things like how she begged to get back together with him, or (if its true) how she continued a relationship with him until 1999, or (if true) he broke up with her and got with Blanket's mom. I do find the stuff in the thread about Blanket's mom interesting. Lisa will talk about Mike if asked though, she had previously had no problem letting her bitterness consume her and going on to bash him. She will be much more humble now. I'll bet she's regretting her words big time.
 
If she ever says anything...
I just hope it's a slap in the face to the media and she can correct her wrongs that she did to Michael/said about him and just tell everyone that what she said was out of bitterness and not the truth...and then tell them that it WAS really love...and kinda still is.

About keeping her marriage intact...I read the second book by John Lennon's first wife, Cynthia, (titled John if anyone's interested) and it was a very detailed, intimate at moments, book. She is married.
From what I hear with Lisa Marie, her husband is letting her grieve in her own ways and he supports her and is there for her. If she REALLY needed to get it off her chest and let it be a part of her grief, I'd imagine that he'd support her.

We'll see what happens...but I just hope she says something, at least. :)
 
^yeah, I agree, but it might still be hard. I suppose time will heal her and she might be more agreeable to a writing a book later on.

for now, I would not be surprised if this purported new album of hers (if and when it sees the light of day; she sure seems to have taken a leaf out of her ex-husband's book on his album-release timings LOL!) has a bunch of songs about him. but, Lisa, if you're reading this... please no more angry, bitter songs about Mike. give us a love song, dammit, like he gave us about you on Invincible ;)
 
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indranee said:
^yeah, I agree, but it might still be hard. I suppose time will heal her and she might be more agreeable to a writing a book later on.

for now, I would not be surprised if this purported new album of hers (if and when it sees the light of day; she sure seems to have taken a leaf out of her ex-husband's book on his album-release timings LOL!) has a bunch of songs about him. but, Lisa, if you're reading this... please no more angry, bitter songs about Mike. give us a love song, dammit, like he gave us about you on Invincible ;)
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YESSSS!!!!!!!! That would be AMAZING! But I think the song will be more about regretting her actions, or "I never got to tell you how much I really love you" type of song.

and thank you Indranee! You rock my socks! lol
 
Ok, so given all this information, what have we concluded?


Who wants to go first? lol
 
HOW he kept it a secret is beyond me...since he was followed/spotted everywhere he went! It amazes me!

If anyone heard the radio conversation, could you PM me? I want to know what was said. :)
 
Hey, I found this on the other board. I know that we can't believe all of it. But if there's nothing relate between MJ and LMP at all, which stupid report would make that up? If they want to make up something, they can pick someone else.

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CTU said:
Hey, I found this on the other board. I know that we can't believe all of it. But if there's nothing relate between MJ and LMP at all, which stupid report would make that up? If they want to make up something, they can pick someone else.

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so, uh, what does it all mean? *confused*
 
CTU said:
Hey, I found this on the other board. I know that we can't believe all of it. But if there's nothing relate between MJ and LMP at all, which stupid report would make that up? If they want to make up something, they can pick someone else.

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Thanks for posting, CTU. I've been reading the thread at MJFC with great interest, they have some wonderful discussion going on there. This article is very fascinating, and it can't all be made up, it must have some kind of truth to it.

Makes me wonder if Lisa and Michael had kept in touch over the years after that first meeting when she was 6. Or maybe Lisa heard that Mike wanted to see her, and they did become friends before 1992, like this article seems to imply. I know Priscilla said on Oprah that Michael got in touch with her when she was doing Dallas, so that was sometime in the 80s and asked to meet Lisa, but Priscilla wouldn't allow it because Lisa was only 16 at the time. Perhaps Lisa heard about this, and got in touch with him herself a few years later. Who knows? Fun to speculate though. :)

I guess we'll never know the whole truth though, unless Lisa spills the beans.

This was also posted at the other forum, it's a clip from the making of "Childhood". I thought it was sweet how Lisa arrives on the set and then Michael waves to her as he sees her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4SY829uTKc
 
hmm... you know what this would make sense of? that quick way Lisa contradicted Mike on Diane Sawyer and said "we DIDN'T keep in touch after that". meaning, they didn't keep in touch after they first met (when she was 6). maybe this is something they didn't want the world at large to know?

just speculatin' ;)
 
indranee said:
hmm... you know what this would make sense of? that quick way Lisa contradicted Mike on Diane Sawyer and said "we DIDN'T keep in touch after that". meaning, they didn't keep in touch after they first met (when she was 6). maybe this is something they didn't want the world at large to know?

just speculatin' ;)
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Yeah, in that interview Lisa cut him off and tell her story. Michael was okay with it, I bet the had to come up with a story to tell before the interview and that was part of it. They emphasize that they dated only 4 months after she separate from Danny, obviously not true.

I don't know if the news is true, but who would match them together like that back then?

I think the truth that they allow us to know is their marriage is not a sham, and they really did love each other for a long time, longer than many people thought.

the other board also shared that MJ/LMP were seen at the Ivy in 2001 together.
 
No, it was some fan whose cousin work in Ivy Restaurant. No photo. Will try to find the post and send it to you.
 
This is what been posted, I hope the poster don't mind I share it here:

Ok so I need to say something.

I don't know Lisa, I just know the ex wife of The King Of Pop. She's not interesting, she doesn't work, so why people speak about her? There is nothing to say about her! She says lots of things bad about Michael, she always speaks about Michael and journalist just want to speak with her about Michael!

So she 's nothing, so leave her alone!

And one thing. One of my cousin, is a chef, he works at the Ivy restaurant in LA from september 1997 until june 2001.

I'm fan of Michael,and in 1998 my cousin saw Mike and Lisa at the Ivy and it was " hot " between the couple. She touched his knees, his hands, they ate the same dessert in the same cup it was ice cream! Listen, both of them drinks wine and at the end they were a bite happy, drunk, in the funny way. They laugh of lots and took pictures with the chef, the boss of the restaurant and the team in the kitchen.

They seem very happy, and they cameback at the Ivy together until 2001 my cousin told me. My cousin speaks very well american and all the chef in this restaurant knew than Lisa wanted more than to be just a friend with Mike.

When you go to the restaurant with a friend, you don't touch the legs , the face, the thing between the legs ph34r.gif of your " friend ". And the kisses of course!

So they enjoyed a lot together, but it was know than Lisa wanted Michael. When my cousin told me this, I didn't believe him but one of his collegue told me everybody know in Hollywood, than Lisa will always be behind Mike, if he needs her because she just say yes for everything when it's Michael who ask.

So I like to read fan fiction with the " couple Mike and Lisa " because they were something between the King of Pop and Lisa. She's nothing in the real life, so maybe she lived because of Mike, and she make interviews because of Mike.

So it's sad for her, but she chooses that! She loved him, not like he wanted maybe! But he loved her too. But she will stay the ex wife of The King of Pop that's it!
 
wow, thanks CTU, interesting. so something happened in 2001, just as we suspected. maybe MJ chose someone ELSE as Blanket's mom?
 
indranee said:
wow, thanks CTU, interesting. so something happened in 2001, just as we suspected. maybe MJ chose someone ELSE as Blanket's mom?
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Hmm...it's kinda similar to what Frank Cascio supposedly said in the thread except the dates are different. The similarity is that Blanket's mom is the lady after LMP. Was LMP already divorced from Nic Cage in 2001?

Here's the bit supposedly from Frank Cascio:

He and Lisa continued having sex until 1999 (they weren't "together," they were just @#%$), until he met his third child's mother, fell very much in love with her,
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wow! gone a day and all this comes out. lol hmmm...Mj did say he had a change of heart with Lisa after she didn't want to have kids with him. So he probably didn;t want her to be Blankets mom. Or, the Frank Cosio message is true and it was an accidental pregnancy?
 
gone a DAY??!!! you were gone for weeks dori! :lol: :p

I'm slowly but surely coming to an understanding of what happened betw. them. will post more later. suffice to say, I feel bad for them both, but despite the love and passion between them, they weren't suited. I think Michael -- wise one that he was -- realized this and let her go.

I don't think she's quite accepted it. she may, now that he is gone.
 
I just read on another board, that he was deeply in love with Blanket`s mom. were together for some time, and then split with unknown reason . Just after that she discover, that she is pregnant.
You know that story, true?
But, look... Why she didnt want to take care of hers baby...
That story isnt true in my opinion...
I think that more reality is that he use surrogate mother, but maybe...
Who knows...
 
it's just from what that Frank dude said. no way to really corroborate it, hence we don't know if it's true. who knows why she gave up Blanket. if I were to guess, it would be at Mike's insistence, I think. he did not want to share his children with anyone other than Lisa Marie, I expect. with P&P&B, he wanted exclusive parental rights, and he got it with both women (Debbie and the anonymous-to-us egg donor). Mike always had his way. we all know that. :)
 
Yes, he had his own ideas, and noone could give him advice "dont do that,its not good " or just tell him NO, because he tought "I`m the man, I know what is right for me.."
Not always...unfortunately...

Maybe she was in Blankets life... who knows.. Michael had secrets, and he knew how keep them away from anybody...
Maybe she is that "secret girlfriend" ....

But I dont think so, that LMP is Blankets mother. I read some speculation about that... What do you think girls??
 
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