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SmoothGangsta said:
Really weird they're trying to say it was written for Thriller when it definitely wasn't. As someone who feels accurate history is important it's incredibly disheartening to see them lying about small stuff like this.
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Has the Estate ever told the truth?
 
Simijacksonfan said:
if we don't support this reissue the estate won't give us any new material and that would be the worst thing so support the reissue i'm honestly glad that we finally get new material at all because for a long time it sounded like the estate would not releasing anything new at all, so I'm really relieved and happy that they're feeding us unreleased stuff again and it would be a mistake not to support the new edition because if it doesn't matter, nothing new will be released at all and that would be really depressing and you can really say that they don't do this reissue badly they said from the beginning that there will also be rarities with new stuff so i'm happy we get the toy, behind the mask original demo and what a lovely way to go a completely unheard song and 4 songs are still to be revealed
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So we should just buy something to make the Estate happy and make them more money? That makes zero sense. What have they done for us the last 10 years? Nothing. We did the job defending MJ over LN they did shit. I will buy the unheard tracks only. The leaked songs are not that good and I’m not paying for them. Starlight in particular is only worth giving a second listen. Hopefully they read this forum and add some more unheard demos. We always make excuses for the estate holding tracks back. If they want to make money release something worth buying. I mean they should be releasing Thriller in HD next week and gearing up for Halloween. If they don’t they are fools.
 
Ekans said:
Oh my God why are some of you craving the inclusion of HS and NL so much? They've been heard by us for countless years, just do a YouTube search and you'll easily find them. Give me NEW, unheard stuff - like Chicago 1945 or some other song we have no idea about their existence. I can't understand you who like to pretend that some songs have never leaked.
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because my expectations are lower than yours, and probably not even mine will be met by the final tracklist..

of course another unleaked song would be even better. but I am just wondering why we get sunset driver and CGOTR instead of Niteline and Hot street.. anyway lets wait and see..

probably next week: Carousel (incomplete version) :D

I try to be simply happy with Behind The Mask Demo. That will be awesome regardless of the rest! And I am already happy enough with that one.
 
Ekans said:
Oh my God why are some of you craving the inclusion of HS and NL so much? They've been heard by us for countless years, just do a YouTube search and you'll easily find them. Give me NEW, unheard stuff - like Chicago 1945 or some other song we have no idea about their existence. I can't understand you who like to pretend that some songs have never leaked.
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I'd like to have Hot Street & Nightline on cd. The leaks are sourced from a hissy 2+generation cassette. In addition it is possible we'll get different mixes.
 
Set aside your feelings towards the estate for a second here. The only source of information for this song comes from the credits, which have been available for nearly 20 years. Only two men are listed as contributors, neither of whom met Michael until the early 1980s. Literally no other evidence has arisen to discredit or challenge this, other than people saying, “Well, it sounds like an older song.”

It’s just crazy to me, lol. Even when you consider the estate’s unreliability, this is nothing more than fans looking at long established facts and challenging it just because it’s easy to complain about it. I’d love to see some evidence that it was done earlier than the 1980s, but the burden of proof is on everyone who says it was.
 
Fuzball said:
I'd like to have Hot Street & Nightline on cd. The leaks are sourced from a hissy 2+generation cassette. In addition it is possible we'll get different mixes.
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There's clean lossless copies of both, have them on my PC. I don't really have a problem with them including leaked tracks, though. Just already released stuff I'm annoyed about.
 
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the only song i just genuinely do not want is cant get out of the rain, else i couldnt care.

getting the finished version of She's trouble in HQ, the demo to Behind the mask, the infamous The Toy and the extremely elusive Lovely Way is more than enough to justify 14 euro + postage, anything on top of that is a plus in my eyes.
 
On The Ultimate collection, Sunset Driver clearly falls in the Off the Wall era if the track order is anything to go by. Is it possible we will get a different "Thriller" version of the song?
 
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Beano Wild said:
the only song i just genuinely do not want is cant get out of the rain, else i couldnt care.

getting the finished version of She's trouble in HQ, the demo to Behind the mask, the infamous The Toy and the extremely elusive Lovely Way is more than enough to justify 14 euro + postage, anything on top of that is a plus in my eyes.
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Personally? yeah, i agree with this a 100%, the only things i REALLY wanted out of this anniversary release was a finished version of She's Trouble and the original Behind The Mask, and guess what, those two tracks ended up being announced first haha
 
So which version we getting? the Ultimate Collection or a different version?
 
AChanceToDance said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1580589187862085635
Sunset Driver :rolleyes:
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longer text from official instagram:

"This was another song Michael originally wrote for the “Thriller” album. Although Michael also considered it for “Bad”, he never finished it but released it as a bonus track on The Ultimate Collection in 2004. It was also one of the songs featured in the Ubisoft game, “Michael Jackson: The Experience”. The mixer on the original 1982 demo was Bill Bottrell who would go on to co-produce tracks on Michael’s Dangerous album."
 
Ekans said:
Oh my God why are some of you craving the inclusion of HS and NL so much? They've been heard by us for countless years, just do a YouTube search and you'll easily find them. Give me NEW, unheard stuff - like Chicago 1945 or some other song we have no idea about their existence. I can't understand you who like to pretend that some songs have never leaked.
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Chicago 1945 doesn't have anything to do with Thriller.

On the other hand Nite Line and Hot Street are the songs that were on the actual track list at some point. They should definitely be on this album!

If you like YouTube quality and stolen material being illegally shared - ENJOY IT! I want official release and CD quality.
 
SmoothGangsta said:
There's clean lossless copies of both, have them on my PC. I don't really have a problem with them including leaked tracks, though. Just already released stuff I'm annoyed about.
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Lossless copy yes, but from what source. Sound quality will be better on the official CD for sure.
 
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OnirMJ said:
Lossless copy yes, but from what source. Sound quality will be better on the official CD for sure.
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Eh, it's kind of a trade off really.
You get = better quality due to a better transfer from a better condition tape? hopefully?
BUT you also get = terrible mastering, so bad that it gets to the point that you might wanna check out that old lossless copy again.
 
Starlight would just be so non-fitting to their concept for CD2 full of outtakes. so i would be surprised if they truly add this one as well.

I hope though, that one day we will get a Thriller CD full of the Demos of the original release including Billie Jean, WBSS demo etc
 
MJ5 said:
Starlight would just be so non-fitting to their concept for CD2 full of outtakes. so i would be surprised if they truly add this one as well.

I hope though, that one day we will get a Thriller CD full of the Demos of the original release including Billie Jean, WBSS demo etc
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Thriller 50. Or Thriller 75. Or probably Thriller 100.
 
Starlight will be on 2nd disc 100% but in great quality will sound different
 
Smooth72 said:
Also sollten wir einfach etwas kaufen, um das Anwesen glücklich zu machen und ihnen mehr Geld zu verdienen? Das macht null Sinn. Was haben sie in den letzten 10 Jahren für uns getan? Nichts. Wir haben den Job gemacht, MJ gegen LN zu verteidigen, sie haben Scheiße gemacht. Ich werde nur die ungehörten Tracks kaufen. Die durchgesickerten Songs sind nicht so gut und ich bezahle nicht dafür. Vor allem Starlight ist ein zweites Hinhören wert. Hoffentlich lesen sie dieses Forum und fügen weitere ungehörte Demos hinzu. Wir entschuldigen uns immer dafür, dass der Nachlass Spuren zurückhält. Wenn sie Geld verdienen wollen, veröffentlichen sie etwas, das es wert ist, gekauft zu werden. Ich meine, sie sollte nächste Woche Thriller in HD veröffentlichen und sich auf Halloween vorbereiten. Wenn sie es nicht tut, sind sie Dummköpfe.
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Yes, that's true, but we know the estate all too well by now and they'll only dun the bare essentials as long as john branca has the say, there's no point in getting upset, I'd rather take it before they start another project like scream to sell another best of album that everyone is fed up with, I wouldn't support it anymore, but I would support this new edition
 
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Dorian said:
For T100 I’ll be pushing 90s.

Gotta start living healthier from tomorrow.
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I‘ll be 103 … 🥂 Cheers!

- Joe Vogel (I know he had some missteps) puts SUNSET DRIVER with OTW in his book.
- For The Record (book by Chris Cadman) puts it also with OTW/1979 sessions. And adds that it was close to getting on the OTW 2001 SE but was scrapped last minute.
- On TUC it is indeed sequenced with the other OTW / end of 70s tracks.
- In the video game „The Experience“ the MJ Avatar dancing to SD is wearing 70s outfit, afro & does 70s disco dance moves.
- the sound & vibe is totally 70s/Destiny/OTW like
- SD doesn’t sound like any Thriller album song, or even Thriller outtake

My opinion stands!
But I‘m already over it. Hoping for the next one, next week.
 
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