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We Are The World 25 for Haiti / Official video now in first post.
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i don't know why some people are out to make other people feel guilty. everybody here has learned Michael's lesson of love. and we all are contributing to Haiti. that has nothing to do with whether or not we like the song. we all may give in different ways. we don't have to like the song, to be charitable. those who are making us feel guilty for not liking the circumstances of this rerecording, are deliberately looking past the parts in our posts, where we said, we've already participated in sending relief to Haiti.
i just feel like, sometimes, some people preach to appease themselves, and make someone else feel guilty, and not really help the circumstances..whether it be religion, science, or everyday things in everyday life. i see someone already said something like this, that i'm posting now, but it's worth repeating. (sry, Twinklee)
i feel like there has to be a reckoning for how these people treated Michael. i've given money on the street to people who looked like they needed help, and they ended up using it to score drugs. so..just because something looks like it draws sympathy, doesn't mean there should be sympathy. zebras never change their stripes. and if a person is known for doing negative things, chances are, that's the way they are.
the people that mistreated MJ, found it more important to mistreat him, than give to charity. so as far as i am concerned, those zebras didn't change their stripes in past tragedies and natural disaster situations. if anything, i don't know that my money will go to Haiti, via the mistreaters of MJ. i have a feeling it will get to Haiti, via something else, entirely. as far as i am concerned, this is for show. and i am allowed to express that opinion, while i already know that relief is going to Haiti. and will continue to.
i don't know why some people are out to make other people feel guilty. everybody here has learned Michael's lesson of love. and we all are contributing to Haiti. that has nothing to do with whether or not we like the song. we all may give in different ways. we don't have to like the song, to be charitable. those who are making us feel guilty for not liking the circumstances of this rerecording, are deliberately looking past the parts in our posts, where we said, we've already participated in sending relief to Haiti.
i just feel like, sometimes, some people preach to appease themselves, and make someone else feel guilty, and not really help the circumstances..whether it be religion, science, or everyday things in everyday life. i see someone already said something like this, that i'm posting now, but it's worth repeating. (sry, Twinklee)
i feel like there has to be a reckoning for how these people treated Michael. i've given money on the street to people who looked like they needed help, and they ended up using it to score drugs. so..just because something looks like it draws sympathy, doesn't mean there should be sympathy. zebras never change their stripes. and if a person is known for doing negative things, chances are, that's the way they are.
the people that mistreated MJ, found it more important to mistreat him, than give to charity. so as far as i am concerned, those zebras didn't change their stripes in past tragedies and natural disaster situations. if anything, i don't know that my money will go to Haiti, via the mistreaters of MJ. i have a feeling it will get to Haiti, via something else, entirely. as far as i am concerned, this is for show. and i am allowed to express that opinion, while i already know that relief is going to Haiti. and will continue to.
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vnc - I'm not sure if that was directed at me or not. I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty. I just wish that we could be more positive about some things. Reading through the thread is like a hate fest...isn't that the very thing Michael stood against? Harbouring hate only leads to damaging our own hearts. But please, I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty at all.
That's if it was even aimed at me. :lol:
vnc - I'm not sure if that was directed at me or not. I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty. I just wish that we could be more positive about some things. Reading through the thread is like a hate fest...isn't that the very thing Michael stood against? Harbouring hate only leads to damaging our own hearts. But please, I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty at all.
That's if it was even aimed at me.
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when the people that hurt MJ, hurt him, it was like hurting all of us. consequences happen when people cause hurt. we intend to continue to express the message of love, but we are made different when people cause hurt. if someone hurts you, are you going to look at them the same way? if you look at them differently and approach them differently, that doesn't mean you hate them. it just means you were hurt by them.
i don't trust the organizers, here for this project..but it ain't stoppin me from contributing to help Haiti. in another way.
i don't think hate is being expressed. when MJ decided he wouldn't write for Sony anymore..that wasn't hate on his part. that was reacting to being hurt. there are consequences for things like that. the only way hate would be expressed in this situation, is if we decide not to help Haiti.vnc - I'm not sure if that was directed at me or not. I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty. I just wish that we could be more positive about some things. Reading through the thread is like a hate fest...isn't that the very thing Michael stood against? Harbouring hate only leads to damaging our own hearts. But please, I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty at all.
That's if it was even aimed at me.
when the people that hurt MJ, hurt him, it was like hurting all of us. consequences happen when people cause hurt. we intend to continue to express the message of love, but we are made different when people cause hurt. if someone hurts you, are you going to look at them the same way? if you look at them differently and approach them differently, that doesn't mean you hate them. it just means you were hurt by them.
i don't trust the organizers, here for this project..but it ain't stoppin me from contributing to help Haiti. in another way.
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Agree completely , no worries vncwilliam
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Who the hell is listed to be part of this song?
I am hearing Eminem and Lil' Wayne is on this... Em im sort of ok with but Lil' wayne???
Who the hell is listed to be part of this song?
I am hearing Eminem and Lil' Wayne is on this... Em im sort of ok with but Lil' wayne???
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I totally agree....I really feel so disappointed at how some on this board are so quick in bashing the artists who are spending time & effort (for no pay) to re-record the song for a worthy cause. And how quick they are to judge the record itself when they have not even heard the finished product.
You get angry & upset when others disrespect MJ & judge him unfairly, yet you are doing the same thing.
Where is the l-o-v-e that MJ wants the world to have? Should'nt the 'loving' starts with the MJ fans first?
I totally agree....I really feel so disappointed at how some on this board are so quick in bashing the artists who are spending time & effort (for no pay) to re-record the song for a worthy cause. And how quick they are to judge the record itself when they have not even heard the finished product.
You get angry & upset when others disrespect MJ & judge him unfairly, yet you are doing the same thing.
Where is the l-o-v-e that MJ wants the world to have? Should'nt the 'loving' starts with the MJ fans first?
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When Michael died I went looking for a message board to join for support. I was expecting to find a community that wanted the same things Michael did. Instead all I found was a place where every single thing someone tries to do gets scrutinized. Every person that tries to do something gets attacked. To me that is the exact opposite of how Michael lived. He lived for L.O.V.E. Does that mean we will like everything done? No. But do we have to be downright hateful, etc.
When Michael died I went looking for a message board to join for support. I was expecting to find a community that wanted the same things Michael did. Instead all I found was a place where every single thing someone tries to do gets scrutinized. Every person that tries to do something gets attacked. To me that is the exact opposite of how Michael lived. He lived for L.O.V.E. Does that mean we will like everything done? No. But do we have to be downright hateful, etc.
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Wow. Nice Idea but for me better song is oryginal version with Michael than new.
Did Lionel can't write a new song for Haitti?
Without Michael this song doesen't exist..
Wow. Nice Idea but for me better song is oryginal version with Michael than new.
Did Lionel can't write a new song for Haitti?
Without Michael this song doesen't exist..
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you are exaggerrating. we are not attacking every single thing that is being done for Haiti. and we are not hating. we are giving money to Haiti. i shouldn't have to mention what we're doing with our money, but i obviously had to, to make a point.
you are exaggerrating. we are not attacking every single thing that is being done for Haiti. and we are not hating. we are giving money to Haiti. i shouldn't have to mention what we're doing with our money, but i obviously had to, to make a point.
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I think it's hard because it's hard to forget how Michael was treated over the years. That doesn't just go away because now he dies and people are praising him and want to use his song for charity. I will never forget how he was treated because as a fan you felt like you went through it with him. Ofcourse it's not the same way but you felt it none the less. People should help out and Michael would support it. It wasn't just the general public but people in the music industry that treated Michael like he was nothing. I hope the song does well for the people in Haiti. That is what is important.
I think it's hard because it's hard to forget how Michael was treated over the years. That doesn't just go away because now he dies and people are praising him and want to use his song for charity. I will never forget how he was treated because as a fan you felt like you went through it with him. Ofcourse it's not the same way but you felt it none the less. People should help out and Michael would support it. It wasn't just the general public but people in the music industry that treated Michael like he was nothing. I hope the song does well for the people in Haiti. That is what is important.
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I wasn't referring to "Haiti". I was referring to anything anyone does in tribute or having anything to do with Michael. So no, I do not feel like I am exagerrating anything. I could go through these threads and copy and paste every hateful thing but I am not going to waste time.
I wasn't referring to "Haiti". I was referring to anything anyone does in tribute or having anything to do with Michael. So no, I do not feel like I am exagerrating anything. I could go through these threads and copy and paste every hateful thing but I am not going to waste time.
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What part of my post is a PUH-LESE?? So what if it is a good cause, I'm just thinking of how the media will treat them, read my post again, I said rather them, then Jermaine and his kids appearing on behalf of MJ's kids. I just said that i'm concered about what kind of people will be around them. haven't you seen how randy acted and made a fool of himself by posting his thoughts on twitter. Unfortunetly that's the kinda people who will be around MJ's Kids so you never know!
Besides they didn't stop wearing mask "way" before MJ passed and he never said he would bring them up on stage during TII, that was a rumor.
get your facts checked before "Puh-lese" me
What part of my post is a PUH-LESE?? So what if it is a good cause, I'm just thinking of how the media will treat them, read my post again, I said rather them, then Jermaine and his kids appearing on behalf of MJ's kids. I just said that i'm concered about what kind of people will be around them. haven't you seen how randy acted and made a fool of himself by posting his thoughts on twitter. Unfortunetly that's the kinda people who will be around MJ's Kids so you never know!
Besides they didn't stop wearing mask "way" before MJ passed and he never said he would bring them up on stage during TII, that was a rumor.
get your facts checked before "Puh-lese" me
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You make a lot of sense and I appreciate what you're saying.
I wasn't necessarily talking about Haiti, but about the negativity that seems to be taking over the board. I know times are hard, it's just sad is all.
You make a lot of sense and I appreciate what you're saying.
I wasn't necessarily talking about Haiti, but about the negativity that seems to be taking over the board.
I know times are hard, it's just sad is all.babyface34
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I really wish they would've just left this song the way it is, and written an original piece. Too many creative minds involved not to, imo.
I really wish they would've just left this song the way it is, and written an original piece. Too many creative minds involved not to, imo.
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there are a lot of tributes, i said nothing about..including that of the President of the United states. i praise them for helping Haiti.
reacting to MJ's hurt is not hate. i haven't said anything hateful, and one copy and paste of mine won't prove otherwise. but what it will prove is that i am deeply hurt by what happened to MJ.
like i said..to make a point..i won't keep supporting the same drug dealer, everytime he looks like he is in need, if i feel he will use my money for drugs. i'd rather direct him to a place where he can't repeat the same mistake. if anything, i am helping him. it matters, if i gave him money cus i thought he needed food, many times, and i came to find, that wasn't what he used the money for. i'll just use another method. and that, in no way, is expressing hate.
what i do find interesting, is that if MJ was caught mistreating people the way he was mistreated, he'd get none of the support that is being expressed here, for others who hurt him.
there are a lot of tributes, i said nothing about..including that of the President of the United states. i praise them for helping Haiti.
reacting to MJ's hurt is not hate. i haven't said anything hateful, and one copy and paste of mine won't prove otherwise. but what it will prove is that i am deeply hurt by what happened to MJ.
like i said..to make a point..i won't keep supporting the same drug dealer, everytime he looks like he is in need, if i feel he will use my money for drugs. i'd rather direct him to a place where he can't repeat the same mistake. if anything, i am helping him. it matters, if i gave him money cus i thought he needed food, many times, and i came to find, that wasn't what he used the money for. i'll just use another method. and that, in no way, is expressing hate.
what i do find interesting, is that if MJ was caught mistreating people the way he was mistreated, he'd get none of the support that is being expressed here, for others who hurt him.
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I was not referring to you specifically. In general this board is VERY negative about everything. That is what I was referring to. And it is a shame as it is the exact opposite of how Michael was. I hate that you can't come here to just discuss projects etc without it being about who did Michael wrong. Now back to the topic. This back and forth isn't going to do any good since we obviously disagree
I was not referring to you specifically. In general this board is VERY negative about everything. That is what I was referring to. And it is a shame as it is the exact opposite of how Michael was. I hate that you can't come here to just discuss projects etc without it being about who did Michael wrong. Now back to the topic. This back and forth isn't going to do any good since we obviously disagree
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Re: *VIDEO* Info regarding Prince & Paris WATW contribution.
I think the kids would have been brought up during TII but that is just my opinion. I just watched a video of Michael talking about the kids and how he would introduce them to the world "soon" on stage. That was from a few years ago but he hadn't toured since then. So I think it is very probable
I think the kids would have been brought up during TII but that is just my opinion. I just watched a video of Michael talking about the kids and how he would introduce them to the world "soon" on stage. That was from a few years ago but he hadn't toured since then. So I think it is very probable
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Yes he probably would but he never said he would during TII, he said it in Geraldo interview if I remember correctly.
Yes he probably would but he never said he would during TII, he said it in Geraldo interview if I remember correctly.
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we are very much hurting. allow us to grieve, even if it is different from the way you do it.
consider the horrific nature of how MJ was unjustly treated. and....MJ withdrew...so it's not like he didn't react to his mistreatment. MJ wrote songs about it..so it's not like he didn't react.
i think you are condemning a lot of fans, who aren't reacting like you do. i don't see any examples of the hate you describe. i see hurt, on this board. we are on topic.
sure there is a lot of negativity. it's from hurt. but i can differentiate between that, and hate. we should be allowed to express it, without being condemned for it. and we will continue to express it. you are right..we will agree to disagree....but..when you come at other members..it's against the rules.
there are people on here who say they support the project, but they are not saying things about other members. we are addressing those who are saying accusatory things about other members.
I was not referring to you specifically. In general this board is VERY negative about everything. That is what I was referring to. And it is a shame as it is the exact opposite of how Michael was. I hate that you can't come here to just discuss projects etc without it being about who did Michael wrong. Now back to the topic. This back and forth isn't going to do any good since we obviously disagree
we are very much hurting. allow us to grieve, even if it is different from the way you do it.
consider the horrific nature of how MJ was unjustly treated. and....MJ withdrew...so it's not like he didn't react to his mistreatment. MJ wrote songs about it..so it's not like he didn't react.
i think you are condemning a lot of fans, who aren't reacting like you do. i don't see any examples of the hate you describe. i see hurt, on this board. we are on topic.
sure there is a lot of negativity. it's from hurt. but i can differentiate between that, and hate. we should be allowed to express it, without being condemned for it. and we will continue to express it. you are right..we will agree to disagree....but..when you come at other members..it's against the rules.
there are people on here who say they support the project, but they are not saying things about other members. we are addressing those who are saying accusatory things about other members.
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anyone like Will.I.Am's idea of letting ANYONE record a part of the song? so there would be thousands of version done by thousands of people around the world?
anyone like Will.I.Am's idea of letting ANYONE record a part of the song? so there would be thousands of version done by thousands of people around the world?
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LisaU123...
I think your taking things OTT. Is there another fan site that will bond together and make the effort of composing a song to go towards the Haiti disaster? That is just one example of how us fans on MJJC follow in the foot steps of Michael. Here in this thread though, its completely understandable to why people are pissed with Quincy, or Eminem or Lil Wayne. These people have disrespected Michael deeply, the last two have definitely. Its understandable if there is fear of an ALL time classic that Michael spear headed can be butchered. It happens with every single project.
You have found the right place right here. But tell me one place on Earth where there isnt hate or disagreements.
Forgive us all for being human.
LisaU123...
I think your taking things OTT. Is there another fan site that will bond together and make the effort of composing a song to go towards the Haiti disaster? That is just one example of how us fans on MJJC follow in the foot steps of Michael. Here in this thread though, its completely understandable to why people are pissed with Quincy, or Eminem or Lil Wayne. These people have disrespected Michael deeply, the last two have definitely. Its understandable if there is fear of an ALL time classic that Michael spear headed can be butchered. It happens with every single project.
You have found the right place right here. But tell me one place on Earth where there isnt hate or disagreements.
Forgive us all for being human.
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How would this work..............
Is it some sort of online application?, where you record your voice and upload it to the server and it inserts it into the song................Now that would cool.........
Then to top it off.............they could charge every user £1 or $1 to use it and the proceeds will be donated to the charity!!!!!..........In return you get an MP3 of your voice in the song or a video with your face with the other stars!!!!!!!!
Now that's an idea!!!!!!!!!!!
How would this work..............
Is it some sort of online application?, where you record your voice and upload it to the server and it inserts it into the song................Now that would cool.........
Then to top it off.............they could charge every user £1 or $1 to use it and the proceeds will be donated to the charity!!!!!..........In return you get an MP3 of your voice in the song or a video with your face with the other stars!!!!!!!!
Now that's an idea!!!!!!!!!!!
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Anyway.............
1.) Am I the only one who thinks that Quincy and Lionel wouldn't of bothered with this if Michael was still alive!!!!!!........I mean they never bothered to re-record the song to help the survivors of the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami that hit Indonesia, Sri lanka, India, Thailand and parts of Africa, which also took the lives of 250,000 people!!!!!!!!!!!
2.) Am I also the only one who thinks that the recording of this song has come ridiculously late.......3 Weeks...come on..........people who wanted to help the survivors have already donated loads of money or gone to Haiti to help the people themselves!!!!
This is what really bugs me about the whole thing............it would also explain why loads of artists never bothered to turn up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyway.............
1.) Am I the only one who thinks that Quincy and Lionel wouldn't of bothered with this if Michael was still alive!!!!!!........I mean they never bothered to re-record the song to help the survivors of the 2004 Boxing Day Tsunami that hit Indonesia, Sri lanka, India, Thailand and parts of Africa, which also took the lives of 250,000 people!!!!!!!!!!!
2.) Am I also the only one who thinks that the recording of this song has come ridiculously late.......3 Weeks...come on..........people who wanted to help the survivors have already donated loads of money or gone to Haiti to help the people themselves!!!!
This is what really bugs me about the whole thing............it would also explain why loads of artists never bothered to turn up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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To make sure that listeners feel his presence too, Janet Jackson will be representing her brother in the new recording. "She's doing Michael's part in the middle the same part Michael did," Jones told the press. "She's representing Michael."
I guess that suits Quincy even better. Overall l hope much money is raised.
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To make sure that listeners feel his presence too, Janet Jackson will be representing her brother in the new recording. "She's doing Michael's part in the middle the same part Michael did," Jones told the press. "She's representing Michael."
I guess that suits Quincy even better. Overall l hope much money is raised.
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I am part of a lot of forums for other artists. DO we have disagreements? Of course. Do we put down every project no. But I give up. Back to lurking because obviously I don't belong here.
I am part of a lot of forums for other artists. DO we have disagreements? Of course. Do we put down every project no. But I give up. Back to lurking because obviously I don't belong here.
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^ Ok fair enough then. I believe every fan should be able to speak out. Will be a shame for you to go back to "lurking". Im sorry you feel like that. I'll shut up now on the matter before I piss the staff off for not being on topic. =[
^ Ok fair enough then. I believe every fan should be able to speak out. Will be a shame for you to go back to "lurking". Im sorry you feel like that. I'll shut up now on the matter before I piss the staff off for not being on topic. =[
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What I have learned on this board is that Michael Jackson fans are in my opinion, over protective of him and everything that has to do with him.
Many can't see reality from fantasy at times and it is in part, I believe, because he has died and people are on a mission to boost up his image or keep his legacy alive and maybe go about it at times in offensive ways. To me, there is no need to defend him on a Michael Jackson discussion board because if you are here you are a fan and if you aren't a fan, why be here?
The fans already know what a wonderful person he was and we all have our own ideas of how we think he really was because the truth of the matter is, unless you spent a considerable amount of time with him in person, you don't really know him. You can believe otherwise, but thats the honest truth.
I am happy they are using "We Are The World" again if they feel they can raise money to save the Hatian people. The first one already made its money and it isn't going to sell a lot more. We all have it.
If you like the song and want to buy it, thats great. If not, thats ok too. Donate how you wish, or if you wish and don't donate if you don't want to.
Its actually that simple for me. I am thrilled that certain singers were there and I look forward to this 'new' recording. That doesn't mean I don't love the old one but there are many remakes done all the time. Michael Jackson remade "Come Together" and most of you would never have heard it otherwise.
I was not referring to you specifically. In general this board is VERY negative about everything. That is what I was referring to. And it is a shame as it is the exact opposite of how Michael was. I hate that you can't come here to just discuss projects etc without it being about who did Michael wrong. Now back to the topic. This back and forth isn't going to do any good since we obviously disagree
What I have learned on this board is that Michael Jackson fans are in my opinion, over protective of him and everything that has to do with him.
Many can't see reality from fantasy at times and it is in part, I believe, because he has died and people are on a mission to boost up his image or keep his legacy alive and maybe go about it at times in offensive ways. To me, there is no need to defend him on a Michael Jackson discussion board because if you are here you are a fan and if you aren't a fan, why be here?
The fans already know what a wonderful person he was and we all have our own ideas of how we think he really was because the truth of the matter is, unless you spent a considerable amount of time with him in person, you don't really know him. You can believe otherwise, but thats the honest truth.
I am happy they are using "We Are The World" again if they feel they can raise money to save the Hatian people. The first one already made its money and it isn't going to sell a lot more. We all have it.
If you like the song and want to buy it, thats great. If not, thats ok too. Donate how you wish, or if you wish and don't donate if you don't want to.
Its actually that simple for me. I am thrilled that certain singers were there and I look forward to this 'new' recording. That doesn't mean I don't love the old one but there are many remakes done all the time. Michael Jackson remade "Come Together" and most of you would never have heard it otherwise.