Update: Alejandra agreed to leave the house / MJ Estate to Alejandra — MOVE OUT ALREADY!!!

OK, I'll just repeat this again. I never once said we were invading their privacy. This is what I posted:

1 This thread is about alejandra's batle with the estate.
2 It is a rule of the forum about posting personal things about Michael.
3 That rule applies to his children as well.

Some sites have no problem talking about the children's lives. But it won't happen here. There is no need to scrutinize them at such a young age.

Twitter talk here is off topic.

You will notice that you do not see any information about the children here. (What they do, where they go, etc). There are other sites where this is allowed (Of course people will have an interest in them) but it will not be talked about here.

Can we please get back on topic?

Thank you.
 
You guys, I am really trying not to close very thread because of the same nonsense.

Please get back on topic.

I don't think it is right to talk about something like the pregnancy of Genevieve. She was underage. It was not made public. Ergo, we do not know definitively, as the general viewing public, if she even was in the first place. We can only speculate. And I don't think it's proper here.

As a last time, I am just asking everyone to please be respectful of the Topic of the thread and of one another.

Please.
 
I never once said we were invading their privacy.

no you didn't, correct, it was other people.

sorry for bringing it up in the first place.
 
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This is from Radar Online

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Michael Jackson Wanted Brothers' Baby Mama Evicted From Family Compound, Says Jermaine

Michael Jackson wanted the mother of his two brother's children evicted from the family's Encino compound, Jermaine told RadarOnline.com in an exclusive interview.

Jermaine said the King of Pop told his brothers and sisters, before his shock death: "My mother never said Alejandra could stay at Havenhurst forever!"

He said Michael, who died of lethal levels of the powerful anesthetic propofol at age 50, had explicitly asked the mother-of-four be removed from the home he owned when Jermaine split from her, in 2004.

"Michael would have done anything for one us, but he did not come around to Havenhurst because he didn't like Alejandra," Jermaine told RadarOnline.com.

The Estate of Michael Jackson is due to face off with Alejandra Oaziaza Jackson in a Los Angeles court on April 14, when a judge will decide whether she and her children, dubbed 'The Jackson Five,' should be evicted from the compound.

"She's played dirty," said Jermaine.

"She acted like my mom was going to throw her out on the street and that's not true."
 
the above statement from Jermaine and Jackie's previous interview shows me that Jackson's are the ones that wants Alejandra out of the house and making the Estate do the dirty work.

However there's something that doesn't make sense

- Jermaine says that Michael wanted Alejandra out of the house in 2004.
- there's a 2007 letter by Katherine saying that she allowed Alejandra stay at the house by Jermaine's request after 2004.

so does that mean that they didn't care for Michael's request in 2004 and let Alejandra stay at the house?
 
ivy;3326885 said:
so does that mean that they didn't care for Michael's request in 2004 and let Alejandra stay at the house?

would it surprise you if it turned out to be true?
 
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ivy;3326885 said:
the above statement from Jermaine and Jackie's previous interview shows me that Jackson's are the ones that wants Alejandra out of the house and making the Estate do the dirty work.

However there's something that doesn't make sense

- Jermaine says that Michael wanted Alejandra out of the house in 2004.
- there's a 2007 letter by Katherine saying that she allowed Alejandra stay at the house by Jermaine's request after 2004.

so does that mean that they didn't care for Michael's request in 2004 and let Alejandra stay at the house?

It was OBVIOUS from the very beginning.

Whoever doubted it was the family behind this eviction request, has colored glasses on.


From the very beginning I knew they were using the estate to do their dirty work...sadly, many clueless fans are blaming the estate for trying to "divide" the family.

Also,, why did he have to go to Radaronline to tell them that MJ wanted AO out? i mean her kids, his kids, Randy's kids will read that mess and probably resent MJ & his kids.

What a mess...why can't they handle their business privately for once?
 
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Memefan;3326903 said:
What a mess...why can't they handle their business privately for once?
I agree!

Is he TRYING to earn money to pay-off his child support? I mean, seriously, what was the point, talking to a RAG like RadarOnline serves no purpose, in my opinion. Other then making Jermaine sound like a "father" who is looking to blame EVERYBODY aside from himself, for his lack of providing financial support for his children.

And why does he have to drag Michael's name into this mess. Shoot, who even knows if what Jermaine is saying is true, i.e. "Michael didn't visit Havenhurst because he didn't like Alejandra."

No offense, but I just don't trust folks when they "all of a sudden" start sharing POSSIBLE quotes from somebody who is no longer here to confirm those quotes.
 
I can totally see Michael not agreeing with her abusive, greedy stay at Hayvenhurst, why is she still there, it's beyond me, maybe she's blackmailing the Jacksons, it's very likely she is, which is beyond cowardly and ungrateful, say what you want about some of them, but what this woman is doing, her obstinacy from refusing to leech off, is nauseating.
 
Once again, Michael was the one took all shit and blame. the Jacksons certainly are afraid of her tell all book, aren't they. Firstly the evil estate wanted the "poor homeless" Alejandra out, now it's Michael. What's wrong with the Jacksons, they cannot even admit they are the ones wanted this woman out. BTW I highly doubt the credibility of Jermaine's words, if Michael hated her to live there, she will be out long time ago? The Jacksons can say whatever they wanted in favor of themselves of course, Michael cannot defend himself anymore.

they surely loved to sell their own business(opz Michael's) to the tabloid. Attention seekers.
 
Memefan;3326903 said:
Also,, why did he have to go to Radaronline to tell them that MJ wanted AO out? i mean her kids, his kids, Randy's kids will read that mess and probably resent MJ & his kids.
Yep, and in my opinion, that resentment has "most likely" already started.
 
JMie;3326901 said:
would it surprise you if it turned out to be true?

no. It wouldn't surprise if it turned out to be false either. :cheeky:

Big Apple2;3326947 said:
No offense, but I just don't trust folks when they "all of a sudden" start sharing POSSIBLE quotes from somebody who is no longer here to confirm those quotes.

that's the alternative isn't it. I didn't want to write it but perhaps Michael never said such a thing, didn't even care who lived there and now this quotes is being made to say "look it's Michael who didn't want it"

The sad thing is that no one has the balls to come out and say "we want her gone". It's always pinned on the Estate or Michael.
 
Big Apple2;3326982 said:
Yep, and in my opinion, that resentment has "most likely" already started.
started the day all of them found out MJ died leaving those cousins and their respective parents NOTHING.
 
Big Apple2;3326982 said:
Yep, and in my opinion, that resentment has "most likely" already started.

The resentment started once they found out all the money was going to the kids and charities.
 
I can't believe some of you believe that they resent their cousins... PLEASE!!! That's GROSS SPECULATION and BS and shouldn't be allowed. Some of you need to really need to just STOP!! You guys should be praying and hoping that PP&B are in a wonderful, loving environment and that they are having fun with their cousins. But INSTEAD you guys want to plants seeds in your minds and others that there is some kind of animosity and it ISN'T. Mike has had more money than their parents for a long time, and I'm sure they know that their cousins have more money than them and ALWAYS HAVE (also don't exclude the fact that their daddy paid the bills for the house they lived in).. PLEASE!!!!!
 
Jackson matriarch Katherine offered her son Jermaine's ex-lover a fully furnished condo provided she kill a book expose that is set to spill the famed family's inner most secrets.

Speaking exclusively to RadarOnline.com, Jermaine revealed the King of Pop's ex sister-in-law Alejandra rejected the bold bid because she's intent on telling all and won't leave the Jackson family compound in Encino, California.

"She doesn't want to leave Havenhurst and go to the condo because she wants to write a book on the family," Jermaine, 56, told RadarOnline.com.

"But if she moved in, she would have to agree not to."

Katherine offered Alejandra -- who is also mother to two of (Jermaine's brother) Randy's children -- a condo and a $2,500 per month stipend if she signed a confidentiality agreement, RadarOnline.com has been told.

"My mom prepared a condo for Alejandra and she says it's not good enough," Jermaine said, in an exclusive interview.

"My mom furnished it and everything... the condo was good enough for Michael and Janet, who had stayed there. It was a place we had just in case anyone needed to go there."

Jermaine said the offer no longer stands.

The feuding camps are due in a Los Angeles court on April 14, when at trial, a judge will decide whether Alejandra and the children, dubbed 'The Jackson Five,' should be evicted.

"She has to live off what I'm going to give her," Jermaine said, adding: "She needs to get out and get a job!"

As RadarOnline.com reported, a Los Angeles judge last week ordered Jermaine to pay Alejandra $80,000 in back child support.

Said Jermaine: "It's not called child support, it's 'Alejandra support.'"

He added: "The Jacksons are a family of dignity who cares about people. Here we have that love and caring being abused."


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusiv...ed-jermaines-ex-condo-not-write-tell-all-book


BIG LOL. Jermaine is afraid.
 
"The Jacksons are a family of dignity who cares about people. Here we have that love and caring being abused."

oh god. Just shut up, Jermaine, don't embarrass yourself more than you already have.
 
Alma;3326949 said:
I can totally see Michael not agreeing with her abusive, greedy stay at Hayvenhurst, why is she still there, it's beyond me, maybe she's blackmailing the Jacksons, it's very likely she is, which is beyond cowardly and ungrateful, say what you want about some of them, but what this woman is doing, her obstinacy from refusing to leech off, is nauseating.


Why are we throwing stone at this woman,Alejandra had gone back to her home country columbia Randy Jackson went there to get back his child and bring her back to the USA to live, he fail to protect her from his shameless womanise brother, we don't know what they might have done to her or her end story, those two have a history with abuseing woman.
I am not saying she is right about everything but we should not throw stone at her,
Plus we only have JJ word MJ wanted her out, for all we know it's just him using MJ name like everyone else. Dead man tell no tale.
Just saying.
 
I do not think Michael was the one that resented Alexandra and didn't want to come to Encino because of her.

Mike was above their pettiness and little fights... On the contrary Michael was supportive to all his nephews, helping them with fees for school, cloths, and shelter.

Read Margaret Maldonado, Jackson Family Values, She described very well the dysfunctional mechanisms of this family.
In her own words, the only one to trust was Michael. He was the one that payed for everything in that house, and even for the kids schools when his brothers didn't wanna....

As for Alexandra she is responsible of course, but firstly is Jermaine... He got how many kids?? Got rid of how many women in order to move to the next...?

I am also sure that there's more to this story than meets the eye... And if Alexandra is thrown out is because Katherine wants her out, not necessarily the Estate. She might pissed Katherine for some reason... and when Katherine wants somebody out, then is final.






How many kids Alexandra gave birth? Four or five? For some women might be hard having those kids and having a job, is not so easy. Not all of them handle both being mothers and go to work. And years passed by, now it's even harder for her to find work.

Jermain should FIRST FIND JOB, and take care of his many kids with different wives... And also put stop to uncontrollable spending, because he still got money from old albums, various interviews etc
 
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to me Jermaine's talk to radar online shows that -once again- it's the family who doesn't want Alejandra in the house any more. The people (especially on the internet) blamed estate for going to court can hopefully see the light.
 
The bottom line is this: Alejandra has children with two living fathers. She and her children should demand moneys from their fathers not from the Estate that Michael Jackson, (who has passed) set up to take care of his children; because he can no longer be with them. She is using her issues with the dead beat fathers of her children to gain financial advantage. She is trying to get the Court to declare her children legal dependents of Michael Jackson, and
thus, entitled to a share of the money from his Estate for their upkeep, in the same manner as Michael's own children.
Randy Jackson and Jermaine Jackson are both scum for allowing this to happen to their elderly mother and Michael Jackson's children.

Alejandra is scum because for over 20 years she took full monetary advantage of Katherine Jackson an elderly woman, and now she is stabbing her in the back.

Upon the arrival of Michael's children, Alejandra looked at Prince, Paris, and Blanket and saw Big $ signs over their faces. She smiled in their faces, and behind their back called the Paparazzi Photographers, and Tabloid Press and made money off of them by reporting to them their whereabouts at all time. Now she has zoomed in for her BIG FAT PAY OFF:
Money (which she is now getting)
and, soon, she hopes Hayvenhurst and a Big Fat financial monthly stipend.
 
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Yeah Jermaine trash the woman I mean sure your kids with her may see it but who cares you don't
 
I don't really understand what she wants?? She wants to stay in Hayvenhurst..but why?
 
isnt it obvious? who pays all the bills who puts food on the tables who pays for all the kids trips when they go out with the mj3. you would be stupid to want to leave having a cushy little number like that
 
Hope;3328317 said:
I don't really understand what she wants?? She wants to stay in Hayvenhurst..but why?

FOR MONEY, HONEY!!!!
She wants Hayvenhurst because it is worth a whole lot of money,
much more than the condo she is being offered.
In her court documents she is claiming that her children are "known dependents" of Michael Jackson, and that condo living was not how they are use to living. They are used to living in a mansion, and should continue to live at Hayvenhurst because they are
"dependents of Michael Jackson."

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I really hope she has to leave on the 14th and be forced to get support from Jermaine. I hope the estate is firm about who Michael''s dependents are.
 
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