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StacyJ;3301273 said:
Big Apple, you are right.

Roger confirmed a lot of his stories came from Randy I believe. He also mentioned how Joe and Leonard Rowe was calling him right after TII was announced and the tickets sold out.
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Yep, it's like after Michael's passing a lot of the "blanks" have been filled in due to the actions of certain Jackson family members.

I do recall one of the bodyguards saying that when they denied Randy Jackson access to Michael's home, Randy "threatened" to go to the media.

I'm "guessing" that was not the FIRST time Randy made that type of threat. Any of the "stories" that came out after the BOTCHED deal Randy was trying to put together with that Dash character, most likely came from Randy Jackson directly, because he was unhappy with Michael's response to his BIG plans.
 
Regardless, TMZ has been wrong far too many times, and bottom line here is that Alejandra has to leave, she is not reliable, wants to write a tell-all too, and her presence is a negative one, Katherine has too much on her plate as it is besides age. And the children don't need all this back and forth with ungrateful, noisy people.
 
Alma;3301357 said:
Regardless, TMZ has been wrong far too many times, and bottom line here is that Alejandra has to leave, she is not reliable, wants to write a tell-all too, and her presence is a negative one, Katherine has too much on her plate as it is besides age. And the children don't need all this back and forth with ungrateful, noisy people.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I agree with what you are saying with regard to Alejandra and her children finding a home for themselves. As far as I'm concerned, that should have been taken care of a long, LONG time ago.

I'm not going to debate you as far as TMZ goes, the only thing I know about them is what get's posted on this board, and the fact that some Jackson family members run to them when it behooves their agenda.

As far as Alejandra's tell-all book, I would tell her to go ahead and write it! I wouldn't allow her to blackmail me for money or anything else for that matter.

I realize that Katherine Jackson wants to protect her ADULT children, but enough is enough. She won't be able to protect them forever, in my opinion. I also believe that Katherine wouldn't have so much on her plate, if she allowed her ADULT children to fend for themselves.

Time for grown folks to start acting grown!
 
I'm afraid this whole thing with the "confidentiality agreement" will backlash. Now that Alejandra has been in the news a lot lately, it'll be much easier for her to find a publisher for her tell-all book and the controversy around it may increase interest from the general public whereas before, mainly MJ fans would have known about it and maybe bought it. It doesn't come across well either, to have her sign a confidentiality agreement. Makes it sound like they're hiding something. Of course, the media immediately assume she 'knows stuff' about MJ that the Estate is trying to hide :smilerolleyes:
 
I am wondering if it is the estate that wants this confidentiality agreement. In my opinion they are doing it for Katherine. What in the world could Alejandra know about Michael that most fans haven't heard?

I think Michael was so smart in planning his will and the kids only getting 1/3 starting at age 30.
 
ilmjj;3301515 said:
I am wondering if it is the estate that wants this confidentiality agreement. In my opinion they are doing it for Katherine. What in the world could Alejandra know about Michael that most fans haven't heard?

I think Michael was so smart in planning his will and the kids only getting 1/3 starting at age 30.
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It's not neccessarily about what she knows, but what she claims to know. The general public don't know all the details of when Michael left Hayvenhurst and how long she lived there etc. They'll probably see her as a relatively reliable source. I don't believe her tell-all book will only discuss the family and not Michael. That wouldn't sell too well.
 
ilmjj;3301515 said:
I am wondering if it is the estate that wants this confidentiality agreement. In my opinion they are doing it for Katherine. What in the world could Alejandra know about Michael that most fans haven't heard?

I think Michael was so smart in planning his will and the kids only getting 1/3 starting at age 30.
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I think it's more than Michael because in Alejandra's response we have seen that it covers all the Jacksons. If the estate's goal was to protect Michael they could have limited it to MJ and his kids.
 
ilmjj;3301515 said:
I am wondering if it is the estate that wants this confidentiality agreement. In my opinion they are doing it for Katherine. What in the world could Alejandra know about Michael that most fans haven't heard?

I think Michael was so smart in planning his will and the kids only getting 1/3 starting at age 30.
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I, too, believe that the Estate of Michael Jackson has included the confidentiality agreement for Katherine's benefit. Because in my opinion, Katherine Jackson is STILL trying to protect her ADULT children.

I also feel that anything Alejendra has to say about Michael is what she HEARD from other Jackson family members during the 20+ years she has lived in that home. Alejandra is in a position to reveal what "certain" members of Michael's family had to say about him over the years and that's why Katherine Jackson is so concerned about a tell-all book written by Alejandra.

Was Alejandra with Jermaine Jackson when "Word To The Bad" came into being? If so, she can write 2-3 chapters on that alone, i.e. "Why Jermaine Jackson would write that type of song in the first place."
 
If Alejandra does write a book about the things Michael's family has said about him over the years and how they really felt about Michael won't that reflect poorly on the Jackson family more than Michael don't you think? I mean here they try and say they are this all American family when it sounds like it is more about control and money. I just want it known haw this poor man was taken advantage of and for granted by his own family!

Linda, it never occured to mean that Alejandra would make up stuff but I forgot who I was dealing with!!!
 
Big Apple2;3301522 said:
I, too, believe that the Estate of Michael Jackson has included the confidentiality agreement for Katherine's benefit. Because in my opinion, Katherine Jackson is STILL trying to protect her ADULT children.

I also feel that anything Alejendra has to say about Michael is what she HEARD from other Jackson family members during the 20+ years she has lived in that home. Alejandra is in a position to reveal what "certain" members of Michael's family had to say about him over the years and that's why Katherine Jackson is so concerned about a tell-all book written by Alejandra.

Was Alejandra with Jermaine Jackson when "Word To The Bad" came into being? If so, she can write 2-3 chapters on that alone, i.e. "Why Jermaine Jackson would write that type of song in the first place."
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No, I think he was with Margaret Maldonado then cause she covers this in her book. Have you read it?
 
ivy;3301520 said:
I think it's more than Michael because in Alejandra's response we have seen that it covers all the Jacksons. If the estate's goal was to protect Michael they could have limited it to MJ and his kids.
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They could have done that, but I am sure Alejandra is not gonna write a tell-all book about the Jacksons without including Michael so that could be why she refused to sign the confidentiality agreement.

She could go the Margaret Maldonado route and only speak negatively about the family but not Michael though. He did financially support her for 20+ years after all, so if she had any sense of gratitude she would spare Michael. Unfortunately, I don't think she has the same class that Margaret had :mello:
 
ilmjj;3301546 said:
If Alejandra does write a book about the things Michael's family has said about him over the years and how they really felt about Michael won't that reflect poorly on the Jackson family more than Michael don't you think? I mean here they try and say they are this all American family when it sounds like it is more about control and money. I just want it known haw this poor man was taken advantage of and for granted by his own family!
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To us fans, yes. But we all know the media is craving for anything to bash Michael so they would probably use this book as an excuse to say: "See, even his own family thinks he was "this" or "that"" :mello:

Linda, it never occured to mean that Alejandra would make up stuff but I forgot who I was dealing with!!!
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Oh, I never doubted this. All tell-all books have some fiction in it but when the source is as mentally unstable as Alejandra, you can be sure a good part of it is either made up or exaggerated.
 
LindavG;3301562 said:
No, I think he was with Margaret Maldonado then cause she covers this in her book. Have you read it?
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Thanks!

No I never read her book. Truthfully, I had never heard of Margaret Maladondo until recently.

I don't know much about Jermaine, I always thought he went from Berry Gordy's daughter straight to Jaffar and Jermajesty's mother and I just figured their mother was the woman is with now. I had no idea about all of the OTHER hanky-panky in between, namely the brothers sharing one woman. That was all news to me.

Do you remember what Margaret says about "Word To The Bad" in her book?
 
She will not trash Mike. Don't forget there are 3 kids WHO REALLY KNOW HOW WAS THEIR FATHER.

She will blablabla against her ex, they never give money for their kids, they don't care about them, they just wanted money from their brother Mike, blablabla...

Nothing against Mike, and really, WHO GONNA BELIEVE A WOMAN LIKE THAT IF SHE BLABLABLA AGAINST MIKE ?

Lol, check her life, she's joke.
 
Big Apple2;3301582 said:
Thanks!

No I never read her book. Truthfully, I had never heard of Margaret Maladondo until recently.

I don't know much about Jermaine, I always thought he went from Berry Gordy's daughter straight to Jaffar and Jermajesty's mother and I just figured their mother was the woman is with now. I had no idea about all of the OTHER hanky-panky in between, namely the brothers sharing one woman. That was all news to me.

Do you remember what Margaret says about "Word To The Bad" in her book?
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You should read her book, it is very interesting. She reveals a lot of stuff about the family dynamics (mostly negative) although of course some of it needs to be taken with a grain of salt. She does speak very positively about Michael, like that he took her kids with him on a photoshoot and helped them with their homework, he cared for them etc. :)

About Word To The Badd, I think I wrote a post about that before in another thread recently. I'll look it up, wait for the edit :p

Edit: here are the posts about his topic.

LindavG;3271941 said:
According to Margaret (Jermaine's ex who was living at Hayvenhurst at the time) that story about Michael and Jermaine getting into a physical fight was not true. What happened was that Michael indeed came to Hayvenhurst to talk to Jermaine about the song. He, Jermaine and Katherine (as a mediator) then went into a room to discuss it. Michael was begging and pleading with Jermaine not to release the song and crying and saying "How could you do this to me? I'm your brother!" but Jermaine was stubborn and refused to give in. Michael warned him that this would harm Jermaine's own career far more than Michael's, which it did. Michael stayed quiet for most of the conversation, Katherine sided with Michael. He eventually left. Margaret heard this through Katherine.
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LindavG;3271909 said:
I heard that Jermaine was going to work with some people (LaFace?) for his new album and he was bragging about it to MJ. But then MJ wanted to use those same people for his new album (Dangerous) and they decided to drop Jermaine and focus all their attention on MJ as he was the bigger star. So that's what Jermaine means by "taking his pie". Of course, it's not a nice thing to do from Michael and he may have regretted it later on, as he didn't use any of the songs LaFace worked on. But still, to respond to this by writing and releasing such a hateful diss song about your own brother is way out of order. It's probably one of the lowest things one could do and even though it's 20 years ago and they've long made up (or appear to have), I still haven't fully forgiven Jermaine for it. The part about "Once you were made, you changed your shade, was your colour wrong?" is especially hurtful and I can imagine Michael being upset about it :(
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^ I read that (about LaFace etc.) in Margaret's book iirc.
 
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Diplomate;3301606 said:
Lol, check her life, she's joke.
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Yeah, that whole brother sharing thing is just so unheard of. Well maybe not so much that part, but the part about having children with BOTH BROTHERS is a whole other issue.

That's not a story you hear every day. A story that will put both her AND Jermaine in a horrible light. On top of all of the OTHER issues those two individuals have.
 
A pic I should share with everyone:
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after the trial Genevieve became pregnant and her mother told her she had to choose between her "promising" career or having a baby, she chose her career . She wasn't even 18 years old back then.
 
Soundmind;3302793 said:
after the trial Genevieve became pregnant and her mother told her she had to choose between her "promising" career or having a baby, she chose her career . She wasn't even 18 years old back then.
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And how do you know this? Source?
 
I know that from someone inside that house . and This is not news by the way, it's been known for years now.
 
Soundmind;3302798 said:
I know that from someone inside that house . and This is not news by the way, it's been known for years now.
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Well I've never heard of it. And you're telling me that you're personally in touch with a Jackson who told you one of their family members comitted abortion to have a career? Sorry if I find that hard to believe. If it's an employee... well I don't think I have to remind you of their 'reliability'.
 
well thank you all for the background information on the picture...whatever it may be...they all look happy.
 
Soundmind;3302793 said:
after the trial Genevieve became pregnant and her mother told her she had to choose between her "promising" career or having a baby, she chose her career . She wasn't even 18 years old back then.
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I thought of posting this last night...but I held back (I don't care for the girl, but ish happens to all of us right?)......I come back here less than 24 hours later....and there it is.

I can't believe you posted this.

Anyway, I am sure many fans knew about this already...
 
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Soundmind;3302798 said:
I know that from someone inside that house . and This is not news by the way, it's been known for years now.
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Soundmind;3302793 said:
after the trial Genevieve became pregnant and her mother told her she had to choose between her "promising" career or having a baby, she chose her career . She wasn't even 18 years old back then.
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Memefan;3302831 said:
I thought of posting this last night...but I held back (I don't care for the girl, but because ish happens to all of us right?)......I come back here less than 24 hours later....and there it is.

I can't believe you posted this.

Anyway, I am sure many fans knew about this already...
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I look at it this way...that was then..I cannot judge the girl...even though I dont like her for what she does...that really is her business...not mine.
 
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