Update: Alejandra agreed to leave the house / MJ Estate to Alejandra — MOVE OUT ALREADY!!!

[Petrarose]

Meme, both of us know, even those who r in denial - that those kids of MJ's are going to encounter a lot of resentment, jealousy, hatred, and envy, it happened with their own father, it's going to happen to them, as a matter of fact it already started happening but till now, on a much smaller scale, and with age it's going to get worse.

^^I am with you on this. Who will the cousins blame because they have to leave Havenhurst? Who will they blame because they do not have a lot of money? Not to mention seeing Michael's kids on TV, picking up awards, being interviewed. There is a lot of resentment already, and not only from children but from the adults as well!!!!!

 

[LindavG]

^^I am with you on this. Who will the cousins blame because they have to leave Havenhurst? Who will they blame because they do not have a lot of money? Not to mention seeing Michael's kids on TV, picking up awards, being interviewed. There is a lot of resentment already, and not only from children but from the adults as well!!!!!

How do you know the children are resentful towards PPB? I think we should be careful with making these assumptions. They all seem to get along just fine from what I can see. We barely even know these kids, how on earth should we be able to predict how they're gonna feel about their cousins in the future? Just because their parents acted a certain way, doesn't mean that they will do the same. I don't think anyone would like to be held responsible for whatever their parents did (I sure wouldn't, lol). And tbh, Jaafar, Jermajesty and the other cousins just seem like good, normal kids to me.

 

[xthunderx2]

How do you know the children are resentful towards PPB? I think we should be careful with making these assumptions. They all seem to get along just fine from what I can see. We barely even know these kids, how on earth should we be able to predict how they're gonna feel about their cousins in the future? Just because their parents acted a certain way, doesn't mean that they will do the same. I don't think anyone would like to be held responsible for whatever their parents did (I sure wouldn't, lol). And tbh, Jaafar, Jermajesty and the other cousins just seem like good, normal kids to me.

the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Parents are their children's teachers...they do not what we say..they do what we do. So lets wait a little while and we shall see.

 

[Petrarose]

There is no way MJ's kids are'nt privy to whats going on and that should be of great concern to everyone.

BTW....does this mean that Alejandra has not stepped one foot outside the compound since this all started? hence the hold up of renovations etc.?

I was wondering too who is buying the groceries and household items now that Katherine is gone. I really believe that she has some form of support that she is keeping quiet. Yes, Exotic, the kids most likely are aware of what is going on. There are computers at school and kids talk.

 

[LindavG]

the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Parents are their children's teachers...they do not what we say..they do what we do. So lets wait a little while and we shall see.

Nonsense. Michael looked nothing like his father so why should Jaafar or Jermajesty look anything like Jermaine? I just think it's kind of cruel to already make these assumptions about kids who have done nothing wrong and just happen to be related to Michael. As I said, Prince, Paris and Blanket seem to get along just fine with their cousins and there's no way any of us would know if the cousins are "resentful" or not. But I guess the mere fact that they're from the Jackson family is enough for some people to condemn these kids to a life of resentment, jealousy and 'poverty'. Very classy.

 

[Krshna28]

We still haven't heard much from the fathers..........that is Randy and Jermaine...........


And I really don't think that things are rosey between Michael's children and their cousins...............there must be a reason why Katherine is desperate to kick them out............

 

[Krshna28]

I wonder if Alejandra realizes she is hurting her children and Michael's by this outrageous behavior. She seem to be using her children as leverage to stay in the house. This judge better do the right thing because between Murray trial and this, a lot of anger will be building up.

If she really cared for her children............she would get a job and provide for them like normal loving parents do!!!!!!


She only had those kids because of the $$$$$$$ attached to famous people!!!!

 

[missred07]

Nonsense. Michael looked nothing like his father so why should Jaafar or Jermajesty look anything like Jermaine? I just think it's kind of cruel to already make these assumptions about kids who have done nothing wrong and just happen to be related to Michael. As I said, Prince, Paris and Blanket seem to get along just fine with their cousins and there's no way any of us would know if the cousins are "resentful" or not. But I guess the mere fact that they're from the Jackson family is enough for some people to condemn these kids to a life of resentment, jealousy and 'poverty'. Very classy.

I am sorry to interupt but "Yes", I have to agree with what you said.
Those poor kids didn't do anything wrong.
It's their parents' fault to put them in this weird situation.
To think they will definetly resent on PPB is preconception.
It's all about the choice they make and how they think things.
I think it's too early to call on these kids.
Life is hard for PPB but life is also hard for the other Jackson kids.
I don't think it's a easy life to have a deadbeat father and a mother who also doesn't seem to care about you.

 

[virginia_woolf]

"Claimants further request this Court appoint a Guardian ad litem for minor children Jaafar Jackson and Jermajesty Jackson while at the Residence, AT THE EXPENSE OF THE ESTATE."

Did the judge say anything about this request?

 

[chanel05]

How do you know the children are resentful towards PPB? I think we should be careful with making these assumptions. They all seem to get along just fine from what I can see. We barely even know these kids, how on earth should we be able to predict how they're gonna feel about their cousins in the future? Just because their parents acted a certain way, doesn't mean that they will do the same. I don't think anyone would like to be held responsible for whatever their parents did (I sure wouldn't, lol). And tbh, Jaafar, Jermajesty and the other cousins just seem like good, normal kids to me.

Nonsense. Michael looked nothing like his father so why should Jaafar or Jermajesty look anything like Jermaine? I just think it's kind of cruel to already make these assumptions about kids who have done nothing wrong and just happen to be related to Michael. As I said, Prince, Paris and Blanket seem to get along just fine with their cousins and there's no way any of us would know if the cousins are "resentful" or not. But I guess the mere fact that they're from the Jackson family is enough for some people to condemn these kids to a life of resentment, jealousy and 'poverty'. Very classy.

I am sorry to interupt but "Yes", I have to agree with what you said.
Those poor kids didn't do anything wrong.
It's their parents' fault to put them in this weird situation.
To think they will definetly resent on PPB is preconception.
It's all about the choice they make and how they think things.
I think it's too early to call on these kids.
Life is hard for PPB but life is also hard for the other Jackson kids.
I don't think it's a easy life to have a deadbeat father and a mother who also doesn't seem to care about you.

I agree with you two. I can't believe that some of these posters are trying to make these kids jealous. All of MJ siblings weren't jealous of him either. I'm sure they would want that success but that doesn't make them jealous. We can only go by what we know, and from what we see, they get along just fine. Their family dynamic is no different from yours and mine, except their family is famous. N my family there is one jealous person, everyone else is happy for whomever and their success.

 

[gerryevans]

^^I am with you on this. Who will the cousins blame because they have to leave Havenhurst? Who will they blame because they do not have a lot of money? Not to mention seeing Michael's kids on TV, picking up awards, being interviewed. There is a lot of resentment already, and not only from children but from the adults as well!!!!!

I think the "estate" will generally be blamed for everything. In fact, I think anything wrong in the world is going to be blamed on the estate now from some Jacksons. It doesn't even have faces and bodies behind it anymore. It's this "thing" that is responsible for every negative in their lives.

 

[loveforever]

Alejandra already put the blame on the "Evil" Estate when it's not hard to figure out it was Katherine behind this. I don't think the estate offered her a condo really cared about her stay in Encino, after all they still need to pay. and if the estate really cared about her tell all book about Michael, they would never play the 'bad' people role, it just add more fuel and hate to write the nasty book. Honestly, the bodyguards/casico/Lataya/Jermaine/David Gest/Frank Delio....almost everyone around Michael planned to write the tell all books, if the estate really cared, I think they are gonna be busy. The truth is what Alejandra could write about Michael when the Jacksons had to make appointment to see him, but I am sure she had a lot of things to say about the Jacksons who lived under the same roof.

IMO whoever cared about this tell all book are the ones played "NICE" in this situation. Katherine let the Estate play the "bad" people and she is the nice, innocent, poor victim as she used to be. I am curious who is Donte's father, why Katherine and Joe are the legal guardian of this child but Joe let Alejandra and Jermaine raise him.

 

[Bridgett_361]

Jermaine need to man up and take care of his children how can he stay abroad and leave his children to fen for themselves? What kind of man his he,
And he his going to tell us about Michael? Sorry but I don't want to hear it Michael care of his children Jermaine should learn a lesson from his brother about love and taking care of one children,
JERMAINE JACKSON YOU NEED TO GO AND LOOK AFTER YOUR TWO YOUNG BOYS WHO NEED A FATHER TO LOVE AND GUIDE THEM IN LIFE,
ON TILL YOU take up your responsibility I DON'T THINK ANY MJ FAN SHOULD SUPPORT any venture he his selling.
What is wrong with some of the men in today world?

 

[StaceyMJ]

the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. Parents are their children's teachers...they do not what we say..they do what we do. So lets wait a little while and we shall see.

Yes, lets wait and see. These are minors that you're talking about, I'm sure I don't need to remind you to stay respectful to them. This is not their fault, ok?

 

[marebear]

I think when Prince, Paris and Blanket become adults they need to protect themselves. They are going to inherit a lot of money and it's possible for some in their own family to feel jealousy or resentment. I am not saying it will happen but the attention will be more on them just like with their father. Right now they are just kids but when they become adults things will be interesting. I hope they will be strong enough to deal with it all whatever comes their way.

 

[ivy]

I cleaned the thread.

Again please let's leave children - whomever their parents might be - out of the discussion.

 

[msladeevon]

edited

 

[Soundmind]

you guys assume that it's Alejandrah's fault but everything started by her own children not Alejandrah really. Although the Jacksons want to blame her , what happened was the result of what those kids heard their parents say about MJ's will and his kids DNA ...etc

I'm aware many of you don't know that Prince specifically asked Katherine to force them out of that house , the issues are not with Alejandrah , it's with Jermaine and Randy's kids , especially Jaffar and Genevieve .

 

[enlightenu]

I think when Prince, Paris and Blanket become adults they need to protect themselves. They are going to inherit a lot of money and it's possible for some in their own family to feel jealousy or resentment. I am not saying it will happen but the attention will be more on them just like with their father. Right now they are just kids but when they become adults things will be interesting. I hope they will be strong enough to deal with it all whatever comes their way.

What they REALLY need to watch out for are people whispering in their ears to try to seperate them from their family so they can take advantage of them, use them and then betray them---like what happened to their father.

Whatever issues Michael may have had with his blood family, PALES IN COMPARISON to the many leeches that squirmed their way into his life pretending to be his friend, pretending to have his best interests at heart, pretending to be in love with him---when in reality they had ulterior motives and were not acting in his behalf.

 

[missred07]

you guys assume that it's Alejandrah's fault but everything started by her own children not Alejandrah really. Although the Jacksons want to blame her , what happened was the result of what those kids heard their parents say about MJ's will and his kids DNA ...etc

I'm aware many of you don't know that Prince specifically asked Katherine to force them out of that house , the issues are not with Alejandrah , it's with Jermaine and Randy's kids , especially Jaffar and Genevieve .

um~~~
Where did you get all this information that PPB especially Prince want them out???
What happened between PPB and JAffar and Genevieve?
I can't recall seeing anything related to it, maybe I missed some post.
I thought Genevieve live with her BF or something like that.

 

[Memefan]

you guys assume that it's Alejandrah's fault but everything started by her own children not Alejandrah really. Although the Jacksons want to blame her , what happened was the result of what those kids heard their parents say about MJ's will and his kids DNA ...etc

I'm aware many of you don't know that Prince specifically asked Katherine to force them out of that house , the issues are not with Alejandrah , it's with Jermaine and Randy's kids , especially Jaffar and Genevieve .

But Katherine did not take MJ's kids' grievances seriously...until DCFS came into the picture and read them their rights....fix the mayhem

Alejandra isn't a mother to her kids...the hoodlums in training were the catalysts of everything going on with that w&*&*

 

[Ashtanga]

We still haven't heard much from the fathers..........that is Randy and Jermaine...........

It would be very interesting to hear what they have to say. :fear:

Funny, they were on twitter these days and said nothing about it. And it seems that Jermaine is in Paris. :doh: With all this happening, he travels. Jerma... :sigh:

 

[yaazgurl]

What they REALLY need to watch out for are people whispering in their ears to try to seperate them from their family so they can take advantage of them, use them and then betray them---like what happened to their father.

Whatever issues Michael may have had with his blood family, PALES IN COMPARISON to the many leeches that squirmed their way into his life pretending to be his friend, pretending to have his best interests at heart, pretending to be in love with him---when in reality they had ulterior motives and were not acting in his behalf.

I used to feel this way too prior to June 25 but I now see that the family did not see Michael. They were no different than the shady character. Still I do not see MJ as a tragic figure and onlly respect him even more for how he dealt with such betrayal coming from all sides including blood.

 

[Memefan]

What they REALLY need to watch out for are people whispering in their ears to try to seperate them from their family so they can take advantage of them, use them and then betray them---like what happened to their father.

Whatever issues Michael may have had with his blood family, PALES IN COMPARISON to the many leeches that squirmed their way into his life pretending to be his friend, pretending to have his best interests at heart, pretending to be in love with him---when in reality they had ulterior motives and were not acting in his behalf.

Hmmmmmm...well, i blame the family for many of Mike's issue. If he had real love & understanding from his family, he would not have to shun them and turn to strangers. Because the family was always using him for money & moneymaking schemes, he became suspicious of EVERYBODY'S motives. He would fire those that truly care and stand up to him....while hiring hire the scums & greedy (Randy for example).

The family's shenanigans shook him to the core...


He had more trust in people like the Cascios, Elizabeth Taylor, The Brandos, The Pecks (he even referred to Peck as his adoptive father) than his own flesh and blood...that explains a lot.




.

 

[twinklEE]

Hmmmmmm...well, i blame the family for many of Mike's issue. If he had real love & understanding from his family, he would not have to shun them and turn to strangers. Because the family was always using him for money & moneymaking schemes, he became suspicious of EVERYBODY'S motives. He would fire those that truly care and stand up to him....while hiring hire the scums & greedy (Randy for example).

The family's shenanigans shook him to the core...


He had more trust in people like the Cascios, Elizabeth Taylor, The Brandos, The Pecks (he even referred to Peck as his adoptive father) than his own flesh and blood...that explains a lot.




.

second that

 

[elusive moonwalker]

Hmmmmmm...well, i blame the family for many of Mike's issue. If he had real love & understanding from his family, he would not have to shun them and turn to strangers. Because the family was always using him for money & moneymaking schemes, he became suspicious of EVERYBODY'S motives. He would fire those that truly care and stand up to him....while hiring hire the scums & greedy (Randy for example).

very true. he wouldnt have spent most of his adult like attaching himself to other families and the trouble that brought looking for the thing he didnt get from his own.unconditional love and respect

What they REALLY need to watch out for are people whispering in their ears to try to seperate them from their family

the family are their biggest problem. they need to take back the ranch close the gates and put a padlock on it. b4 the family use them just like they used their dad. heck its already started with porn prodcuers etc

 

[Alma]

you guys assume that it's Alejandrah's fault but everything started by her own children not Alejandrah really. Although the Jacksons want to blame her , what happened was the result of what those kids heard their parents say about MJ's will and his kids DNA ...etc

I'm aware many of you don't know that Prince specifically asked Katherine to force them out of that house , the issues are not with Alejandrah , it's with Jermaine and Randy's kids , especially Jaffar and Genevieve .

Just 'cause a 'source' is saying that, mostly TMZ for that matter doesn't make it the gospel. Often is being proved that it's not. You're 'aware'.. .. Genevieve has been a really nice girl, with protecting Paris and all that and not divulging private info on the kids, unlike some others; there were many instances of Jaffaar and Jermajesty walking together with Michael's children and seemed to get along fine. Their mother is a very sly, profiteering person and it's not the kids' fault they are one way or the other, but the parents'. Her attitude is beyond brattish and ungrateful, and she has got to stop living off Michael's money and move. Her attitude is simply toxic and can't imagine this being a good thing for her children, and for Michael's. If that's not obvious, 'fine' then.

 

[StacyJ]

so true.. I said years ago if MJ had a good home life with good parents, a lot of his issues would've been avoided. Katherine and Joe were not good parents to him. They've been using him as a commodity since he was 5 years old.

Liza Minelli said it best when asked about MJ after his passing. She said she had good parents and good folks who protected her so that others wouldn't take advantage of her. MJ didn't have that at all.. It was like no one cared what was happening to him.

His family did absolutely nothing to protect him at all

 

[Big Apple2]

Just 'cause a 'source' is saying that, mostly TMZ for that matter doesn't make it the gospel.

That's really difficult to confirm, since we KNOW that there are "certain" members of the Jackson family who call TMZ and RadarOnline to inform them what's going on within the Jackson family.

Back when Roger Friedman was still allowed on this board, I would read his stories and wonder, "WHO the heck is telling him these things."

I NOW firmly believe that at times, not always, but at times, Roger Friedman was getting his information DIRECTLY from a Jackson family member. This, of course is just my opinion, but I feel it's the truth just the same.

 

[StacyJ]

Big Apple, you are right.

Roger confirmed a lot of his stories came from Randy I believe. He also mentioned how Joe and Leonard Rowe was calling him right after TII was announced and the tickets sold out.