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The Michael Jackson Chart Watch

Mister_Jay_Tee said:
I was going off the latest. Thats fascinating then. Number 1?
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I've been following it very closely and my sincere hope is top 20 (beating last year, which I believe was #26?). It would be a miracle to get top 10 though. That's what I want in my heart, but I am just not sure. I'm hinging my hope on top 20 right now. I'll be so happy if we get that!
 
Nite Line said:
Thriller reached number 19 in 2021. I would be over the moon if it reached too 20 again.

If Michael’s estate bothered to promote Thriller during Halloween, it would actually have a chance of reaching the top 10.
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zinniabooklover said:
It's astonishing that they don't bother. Look at how well it does just from fan activity. How much further it might go with a bit of push from MJE? 🤷‍♀️
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Totally agree! if it were on TikTok that would make all the difference...

But that also puts in perspective how big the fan community is and how much the general public loves the song and pushes it, too. It may not ever reach the heights of Mariah's All I Want for Christmas since that is an entire holiday season and Halloween is really only celebrated for a few days, and not even across the globe. But it's doing so well at this point that I think post-biopic it might really have a shot of a regular top 10 appearance on the BB charts.
 
staywild23 said:
Totally agree! if it were on TikTok that would make all the difference...
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It would help so much.

staywild23 said:
But that also puts in perspective how big the fan community is and how much the general public loves the song and pushes it, too. It may not ever reach the heights of Mariah's All I Want for Christmas
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I mean, strictly speaking, I'm not even wanting that, ngl.

staywild23 said:
since that is an entire holiday season and Halloween is really only celebrated for a few days, and not even across the globe.
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Excellent point.

staywild23 said:
But it's doing so well at this point that I think post-biopic it might really have a shot of a regular top 10 appearance on the BB charts.
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That could happen. Each year, the fans just get more and more organised as to how they approach this. Even without MJE adding a helping hand that is definitely possible.
 
Annita said:
That`s great




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Michael Jackson has now surpassed 42 million monthly listeners on Spotify.new peak
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I came here to post this!!

This all makes me so happy. Of course, it will dip again after Halloween. But last year the Halloween numbers became the "norm" for him year round. Each year he is building more and more and gaining more fans. It really touches my heart ❤️

I want him in the top 50!!!
 
Wow I just saw Queen has 5 different billion+ streaming songs + an handful of others around the 600 to 800 million region. Michael is still far away from this level honestly.

I checked the Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack album and it features 7 songs over 600 million streams, another 5 well over 100 million and a bunch between 50 and 99 million. This is the sort of impact the biopic had. A whole lot of really young people must have seen that film to rack up this kind of numbers.
 
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filmandmusic said:
Wow I just saw Queen has 5 different billion+ streaming songs + an handful of others around the 600 to 800 million region. Michael is still far away from this level honestly.

I checked the Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack album and it features 7 songs over 600 million streams, another 5 well over 100 million and a bunch between 50 and 99 million. This is the sort of impact the biopic had. A whole lot of really young people must have seen that film to rack up this kind of numbers.
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Well like I just mentioned, he's only 5 million away from matching their monthly listeners. That's a pretty decent number pattern for a solo artist vs a band.

Queen is also used a lot more in commercials and the like, that makes a big difference. Don't Stop Me Now has a billion listens, and it was used in this trailer with a Million Views.

 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
He's catching up by leaps and bounds man. He's essentially right on their tail. This is in basically a dry season no less. Maybe the documentary will do something, in a months time we might be even more amazed.
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I agree completely. The fact that he is this close PRE biopic is insane. I can't fathom what the post biopic numbers are going to look like. I am really feeling excited about it though!

Also, I think fans on Twitter at least are talking about trying to chart during the weeks following the release of the doc. We'll see how that goes. I just hope he breaks records with viewership, too. I want the doc to prove to streaming services that investing in positive and truthful MJ docs is worth it.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
This ain't gonna happen smh. If only a few more people had put the song on a loop for a whole month.

But conversely, why not just keep streaming until the Docu comes out? @staywild23 Do you know?
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Well BB numbers go from Friday-Thursday each week. So even if people continue to stream after this week ends, it won't affect these numbers.

The reason the challenge was two weeks this year was because many fans thought perhaps we could get Thriller to chart before Halloween (but still in Halloween season) before TS dropped her album so that the chart was less competitive. But for MJ to chart as a legacy artist, BB requires a significant reason for it, such as a holiday or a film release. So Halloween is a good time to try since the general public is also listening to Thriller, and around the time of the doc is a good time since the release of that film would be a substantial enough reason for him to chart according to BB's rules. However, the weeks in between Halloween and the doc release not only is there not an extra push from the general public, but it wouldn't necessarily fall under BB's rules for legacy acts to chart.

So, it's complicated lol.

That said, streaming like this is fairly tedious to me. We aren't just streaming songs on loop because that will be flagged as "bot" behavior. We are streaming either specific playlists that have Thriller followed by two other songs, then Thriller again (and so on). OR many of us are streaming with the Stationhead app. Either way, I need a break from it lol. I have been streaming on multiple apps for 2 weeks now and have not listened to what I wanted, when I wanted in that time, and I miss the freedom lol. Ironically, I still just want to listen to Michael, but I want complete freedom to listen to what I want. Despite steaming him 24/7 for literally 2 weeks, I miss him. I am a freak lol 😂
 
staywild23 said:
Yeah isn't it crazy? All these rules I had no idea existed lol. It'd be much easier to stream on loop, but alas.
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Well, yes, but that's total bot behavior. It's pretty invalid and impersonal so I understand. I'm not gonna get up and turn the loop off, maybe every bit counts, but still.
 
staywild23 said:
So, it's complicated lol.

That said, streaming like this is fairly tedious to me. We aren't just streaming songs on loop because that will be flagged as "bot" behavior.
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Dare I say it, sw23, but I wonder if you are in the wrong era! :ROFLMAO:

Here's something I posted on the Elvis thread ages ago. It made me think of you. I think you would have loved this:


Currently reading a 1977 bio of Elvis. On Page 70 - 71 there is this:

"Fan clubs for Elvis at the same time were organised throughout the country with membership cards. The instructions to Elvis Fan Club members read: 'To be members in good standing each week you must send out five postcards to a disc jockey in your vicinity, and follow it up with ten phone calls a week to the radio stations, demanding Elvis' records.' "

I love this but it puts today's streaming parties in the shade. This involves way more hard work than just streaming something all night while you sleep, lol. Anyway, the quote continues:

"Girls formed Elvis Presley clubs of their own which met at their various homes for Elvis - record sessions. They would scream and cry at every record with over-wrought emotions."

The quotes are included in - 'Elvis: Lonely Star At The Top' by David Hanna - but originally come from a book by May Mann called The Private Elvis.


N.B. - in my defence, can I just say, I posted this comment way before I knew much at all about all of this streaming malarkey. I didn't realise that people had sussed out that the streaming needed to look as 'normal' as possible, not bot-like. So maybe it wasn't harder back then. Maybe it's just as hard now, but it's different. But the Elvis thing sounds loads more fun. That's my basic point, lol.
 
filmandmusic said:
Wow I just saw Queen has 5 different billion+ streaming songs + an handful of others around the 600 to 800 million region. Michael is still far away from this level honestly.

I checked the Bohemian Rhapsody soundtrack album and it features 7 songs over 600 million streams, another 5 well over 100 million and a bunch between 50 and 99 million. This is the sort of impact the biopic had. A whole lot of really young people must have seen that film to rack up this kind of numbers.
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Queen is really a exception with this numbers of billion-hits. They top many of current artists. Someone wrote Queens streams tripeld after the biopic.





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Michael Jackson’s Thriller album reach its highest daily streams ever on Spotify with over 6.1 million streams !


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zinniabooklover said:
Dare I say it, sw23, but I wonder if you are in the wrong era! :ROFLMAO:
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There is no question whatsoever that I am in the wrong era lol.

zinniabooklover said:
Here's something I posted on the Elvis thread ages ago. It made me think of you. I think you would have loved this:


Currently reading a 1977 bio of Elvis. On Page 70 - 71 there is this:

"Fan clubs for Elvis at the same time were organised throughout the country with membership cards. The instructions to Elvis Fan Club members read: 'To be members in good standing each week you must send out five postcards to a disc jockey in your vicinity, and follow it up with ten phone calls a week to the radio stations, demanding Elvis' records.' "

I love this but it puts today's streaming parties in the shade. This involves way more hard work than just streaming something all night while you sleep, lol. Anyway, the quote continues:

"Girls formed Elvis Presley clubs of their own which met at their various homes for Elvis - record sessions. They would scream and cry at every record with over-wrought emotions."

The quotes are included in - 'Elvis: Lonely Star At The Top' by David Hanna - but originally come from a book by May Mann called The Private Elvis.


N.B. - in my defence, can I just say, I posted this comment way before I knew much at all about all of this streaming malarkey. I didn't realise that people had sussed out that the streaming needed to look as 'normal' as possible, not bot-like. So maybe it wasn't harder back then. Maybe it's just as hard now, but it's different. But the Elvis thing sounds loads more fun. That's my basic point, lol.
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It's hard now in a different way. Streaming all night is completely easy. But maintaining it all day is hard because my mental health relies on being able to listen to Fly Away, or Push Me Away, or Human Nature at a moment's notice, and I have not been able to do that as easily 😂 (the most streaming-era comment I've ever made lol). But my vinyl is enjoying the extra attention!

But, yes, 1000% more fun to do the fan club stuff of the past. I regret everything about when I was born lol
 
Unfortunately this week coincided with TS re-releasing her dull music for the nth time.
 
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