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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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Ashtanga said:
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This type of "fan" disgust me. I guarantee that they still exist there. Michael has given us a lot, I think it's pure selfishness require more of him. :fear:

For me, the welfare of Michael was always first, the rest be damned.
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Completely agree and I'm sad to say that comment was made on this very board. Don't remember who they are and I wouldn't say if I knew. But, I mentioned it here once how pist I was in reading that.

I also seen similar comments on others broads as well. U bet that those kinds of fans are still around. Some are the very ones who cry justice for MJ now! Such hypocrites!:no:
 
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bluetopez said:
I remember reading how when MJ was in the hospital on June 25th some fan was quick to say "there goes the concerts" they were pist that the shows would get canceled! Yet, not once said "Gee, I hope MJ is okay?"
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bluetopez said:
Completely agree and I'm sad to say that comment was made on this very board. Don't remember who they are and I wouldn't say if I knew. But, I mentioned it here once how pist I was in reading that.

I also seen similar comments on others broads as well. U bet that those kinds of fans are still around. Some are the very ones who cry justice for MJ now! Such hypocrites!:no:
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Miche said:
I know what you mean I see that mentality alot. It disgusts me. Not just the attitude about the concerts, but about him in general and his sexuality as well.

Sometimes it just crossed some sort of normal or healthy boundary to me, especially when he had not long been dead.
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These people really are not fans. Very sad. :(
 
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^ Well they might really love his music, and that's a type of fan. But I do agree, those kind of comments are misplaced and not at all respectful.
 
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Tweets from Jermaine

Jermaine Jackson
I hadn't wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but...

Jermaine Jackson
it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief
22 minutes ago via web

Jermaine Jackson
i have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all
10 minutes ago via web

One fan is buying it and asks him why he hasn't told the fans before...
 
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Myself, Im glad Jermaine has adressed the death hoax head on
letting fans know it is NOt true and not helpful to MJ Legacy or Justice 4 MJ.
Jermaine doesnt want to hurt feelings but it needs to be addressed openly.
Its Very hard for Family to to seek justice for MJ death when fans deny it.
 
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Angela_MJJ said:
Tweets from Jermaine

Jermaine Jackson
I hadn't wished to address this, because I find it hard to accept that people think this way, but...

Jermaine Jackson
it saddens me to read tweets that believe Michael is still alive. He is not. Pls stop hurting yourselves with this false belief
22 minutes ago via web

Jermaine Jackson
i have compassion for those whose denial misinforms them, but this increasing hoax talk is wrong and helps no-one. love you all
10 minutes ago via web

One fan is buying it and asks him why he hasn't told the fans before...
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Well...I guess this is it...the end of the hoax I suppose.
 
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I was gonna post what Jermaine said but ya beat me to it! I doubt this will stop people from making videos, when they have used the Jacksons as examples for believing in a hoax since the beginning! Oh well, If what Jermaine says is good enough for some to not believe after this long or stop following the hoax anymore then that's fine. I guess there's no need for this thread anymore or people like myself to put up vids if that's what some want? I don't make them so it makes no diffence to me if I can't post them, I can still watch them if I choose to on youtube! lol
 
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Lol @bluetopez :lol:

A few of the reactions on the tweets of Jermaine:

domi
@jermjackson5 2 years after you see everything on twitter say the believers, expressing that you do now is shameful

Ursula
@jermjackson5 The talk is not increasing. It got very quiet in the last time, so why now? After all this time?
Ursula
@jermjackson5 I know, you don`t say such things without a reason. It was till now, never yr part to talk against the hoax. What changed?

JUSTICE SEEKER
@jermjackson5 Why doesn't the family address PearlJr? She's allowed to interview family members yet she is perpetuating & profiting off hoax

TNZ [True News Zone]
@jermjackson5 "Michael was not with us way before he arrived to the airport..uhm..I, I mean way before, before he arrived to the hospital.")
1 hour ago via web
 
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Angela_MJJ said:
Lol @bluetopez :lol:

A few of the reactions on the tweets of Jermaine:

domi
@jermjackson5 2 years after you see everything on twitter say the believers, expressing that you do now is shameful

Ursula
@jermjackson5 The talk is not increasing. It got very quiet in the last time, so why now? After all this time?
Ursula
@jermjackson5 I know, you don`t say such things without a reason. It was till now, never yr part to talk against the hoax. What changed?

JUSTICE SEEKER
@jermjackson5 Why doesn't the family address PearlJr? She's allowed to interview family members yet she is perpetuating & profiting off hoax

TNZ [True News Zone]
@jermjackson5 "Michael was not with us way before he arrived to the airport..uhm..I, I mean way before, before he arrived to the hospital.")
1 hour ago via web
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^ See I told ya! It won't changed a thing at least for now. I mean if u have people till this day beleiving Elvis is still alive then, come on. Although The MJ hoax is way deeper then Elvis hoax is and can be much more believable!

And it's funny that someone mentioned Pearl Jr. Because she has said her self that the Jacksons seek her out for events sometimes so she can be there. o_O Some of them even have her on their facebook pages as their friend! So I say to Jeremine be fair and get on her ass too not the just the fans.

Look this is how I feel about the MJ hoax...I'm grateful to it whether it is true or not that he is alive?! At first It was about finding out if it was true when I first got interested in it almost 2yrs ago. Soon it didn't matter anymore if he was coming back or not. The hoax has taught me more about MJ as a person even more and the people that surrounded him as well! About the meaning behind some of his lyrics, videos even a commercial of his!

It has touched on religion, corruption in the world and against him and all types of things that have open my eyes more then they were before! Some will know what I'm talking about cause I'm sure they all seen the same vids as me as well as maybe some others? I have seen others that I never posted cause I thought some probably wouldn't understand or wouldn't be able to handle it?! So the hoax to many is way deeper then a comeback or a stupid pass time! Although there are some stupid ones out there I speak of the ones that are genuine in their search for the truth or understanding of certain things!


But, at the same time u don't have to believe he is alive to know some of the things that people have said in those videos. All there is to do is research urself on certain things! But, it just so happens the hoax people are the only ones who are doing most of that kind of research...sad! No wonder I watch their stuff!
 
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My last hope is gone with Jermaine's tweets. It's good he adressed it, although I fail to see how the hoax believe could harm justice for MJ. It's not like the judge and jurors would be believers.
 
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It's not the first time the family tweets about it. I still have some hope left although it's a very small amount but it has nothing to do with Jermaine. I haven't been here the past couple of weeks because I'm starting to lose hope he's still with us. The video's aren't convincing me and I just don't see what they see anymore. Of course some of the things that were discovered will stay in my mind and the slip ups, but I just don't know anymore what to believe...
 
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I think we should accept that Michael is dead. That way, if he is dead we will just have to get on with life like we are doing now. If he is alive, we will be totally surprised and happy but we will not face disappointment because Michael hasn't returned.
 
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There was like this back to back battle that was going on with Karen Faye and Jermaine attacking Pearl Jr on twitter a few hrs ago! Jermaine and Karen were pretty much saying she has manipulated fans to believe in this hoax and have taken their money! Okay....?!

Let's see here....Pearl came along way later in the hoax. It had already taken off for months way before she joined in! They were even many hoaxers that were upset that Pearl Jr. made a doc including their discoveries! So what Jermaine and Faye are accusing Pearl of is not accurate. At least not the part about her making fans fall into the hoax!

Also I find it ridiculous that they are accusing her of making money off MJ's back, when we all know that Jermaine been doing that himself to MJ since the 80's! lol And Karen she is one to damn talk she SOLD pics to TMZ of MJ's crypt! HELLO!

While they have every right if they truly know he passed to say that and one would hope they know what they speak of...? I still don't appreciate Jermaine and Karen acting like the never did anything that didn't hurt MJ too before and after he passed and made money off of him too! It makes them worst being that he is the brother and she was the friend of many yrs!

Pearl on the other hand didn't know MJ like that she knew other members of the family more! I'm not excusing her if this is all B.S and she knew it all along?....What I'm saying is that I rather have people that have a clean conscience defending MJ then people who are not like Jermaine and Karen!
 
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bluetopez said:
There was like this back to back battle that was going on with Karen Faye and Jermaine attacking Pearl Jr on twitter a few hrs ago! Jermaine and Karen were pretty much saying she has manipulated fans to believe in this hoax and have taken their money! Okay....?!

Let's see here....Pearl came along way later in the hoax. It had already taken off for months way before she joined in! They were even many hoaxers that were upset that Pearl Jr. made a doc including their discoveries! So what Jermaine and Faye are accusing Pearl of is not accurate. At least not the part about her making fans fall into the hoax!

Also I find it ridiculous that they are accusing her of making money off MJ's back, when we all know that Jermaine been doing that himself to MJ since the 80's! lol And Karen she is one to damn talk she SOLD pics to TMZ of MJ's crypt! HELLO!

While they have every right if they truly know he passed to say that and one would hope they know what they speak of...? I still don't appreciate Jermaine and Karen acting like the never did anything that didn't hurt MJ too before and after he passed and made money off of him too! It makes them worst being that he is the brother and she was the friend of many yrs!

Pearl on the other hand didn't know MJ like that she knew other members of the family more! I'm not excusing her if this is all B.S and she knew it all along?....What I'm saying is that I rather have have people that have a clean conscience defending MJ then people who are not like Jermaine and Karen!
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Dare I put this up?? :bugeyed

....Oh well,,, here it is the defense video....

 
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WOW....that was a great video from Pearl Jr. she is right about the L.O.V.E part, all that did happen because of June 25th! Also the only thing Jermaine did for the hoax was to bring it back to the forefront! He instead of killing it made it even more ALIVE (pun intended!) lol Who knows if maybe that's what he really wanted? Cause as we know some of the Jacksons never make sense!
 
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I don't get the whole 'oh now I don't believe it' shit lol. I mean, it's not about being a believer or not... It's common sense actually, ya'll kept 'believing' after a memorial, a funeral...Murray's trial... SO many other things that 'prove' there's no hoax and then a Jackson saying he's dead stops u? This is ridiculous. Ok this might be a truthful fact but really... Now? I'd think a funeral is much a bigger deal than a twitter/interview. Just sayin'.
 
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And blue don't ever stop with your links, they're very interesting, helping me to see other sides of stories & Michael himself. Doesn't necessarily making me a 'believer'... lol ;)
 
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Im not sure if this was already put up ??

Worth a watch anyhow.....


 
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^Yes, I posted it a few days ago! ;)


And blue don't ever stop with your links, they're very interesting, helping me to see other sides of stories & Michael himself. Doesn't necessarily making me a 'believer'... lol ;)
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Thx I feel the same way, they make u think different and be aware of things that probably u weren't before! Many don't understand that area of the hoax. It's what really makes me stay with it, not necessarily the believe part! Nice to know someone gets it too! ;)
 
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Thought so, but couldnt find it on here, anyhow worth another watch... the end part is interesting thats for sure.

And yes I agree, you learn alot about events and connections you wouldnt otherwise probably read or know about.
 
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bluetopez said:
There was like this back to back battle that was going on with Karen Faye and Jermaine attacking Pearl Jr on twitter a few hrs ago! Jermaine and Karen were pretty much saying she has manipulated fans to believe in this hoax and have taken their money! Okay....?!

Let's see here....Pearl came along way later in the hoax. It had already taken off for months way before she joined in! They were even many hoaxers that were upset that Pearl Jr. made a doc including their discoveries! So what Jermaine and Faye are accusing Pearl of is not accurate. At least not the part about her making fans fall into the hoax!

Also I find it ridiculous that they are accusing her of making money off MJ's back, when we all know that Jermaine been doing that himself to MJ since the 80's! lol And Karen she is one to damn talk she SOLD pics to TMZ of MJ's crypt! HELLO!

While they have every right if they truly know he passed to say that and one would hope they know what they speak of...? I still don't appreciate Jermaine and Karen acting like the never did anything that didn't hurt MJ too before and after he passed and made money off of him too! It makes them worst being that he is the brother and she was the friend of many yrs!

Pearl on the other hand didn't know MJ like that she knew other members of the family more! I'm not excusing her if this is all B.S and she knew it all along?....What I'm saying is that I rather have people that have a clean conscience defending MJ then people who are not like Jermaine and Karen!
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^ Thanx I def will check it out! :)

Edit: Did I read that right?! That was one confusing @ss blog... o_O All while believing MJ is alive, this chic trust no one like Branca, TINI and she don't want the Jacksons to be attacked but, think their lying and some are getting manipulated by the wrong people!? WHAT?!! o_O She also accuses Pearl Jr. of sending Sony vids about the hoax, right!? Yet, hoax vids been on youtube way before she came along, Sony could have easily seen those! lol She doesn't trust Karen crazy behind either! lol WOW! O_O CTFU

And about Karen Faye, during that twitter war a few days ago someone twitted to her that if MJ did hoax his death she wouldn't know shit about it! And ya know what she did she agreed with them! lol Can u say dumb women!?

If Karen disassociated herself from his family and whatever worked she did for MJ in the past like she said on a tweet months ago because of his passing...then I really don't know why this women is now kissing MJs and the Jackson families asses?!

Okay...my brain need some resting...*it's spinning in circles* lol
 
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And about Karen Faye, during that twitter war a few days ago someone twitted to her that if MJ did hoax his death she wouldn't know shit about it! And ya know what she did she agreed with them! lol Can u say dumb women!?
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How could she agree with that after saying she did the make up to the body? WOAAAA! Contradiction much? I Never belived she really did it though. Sounded like a total BS from day one. She did not do the make up and now I know it for a fact.
 
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^There always seem to be contradictions from those surrounding MJ. Which causes the very issues they complain about later!
 
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