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The Hoax Theory - Discussing Errors, Inconsistencies, Observations and Other Theories

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Doubtful! Especially, when we all just bumped it! lol Plus, no one ever posted all hoax videos. It's always been the ones we found most interesting, that's how it's always been.


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I don't know if this is the right thread for this or not, but I was looking up some information on Marilyn Monroe's passing and I've discovered that Michael's death is now listed under Wikipedia's "Conspiracy Theories" section.
 
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bluetopez said:
Doubtful! Especially, when we all just bumped it! lol Plus, no one ever posted all hoax videos. It's always been the ones we found most interesting, that's how it's always been.
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Nice to see you bluetopez here again.

The thread is back to life! :party:
 
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kindofdisco said:
I don't know if this is the right thread for this or not, but I was looking up some information on Marilyn Monroe's passing and I've discovered that Michael's death is now listed under Wikipedia's "Conspiracy Theories" section.
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Thx for the info! That's interesting.

But, isn't info from Wiki edited/changed by anyone, right? I really don't use Wiki for info much because of that. But, I did read his bio from there, a friend printed that info out for me cause they thought I would like to have it. It wasn't that bad, it could have used more info on certain areas and other parts were a bit speculative, but it wasn't that bad.
 
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Yeah, wiki is a bit iffy on information but I think they're trying to tighten up who can edit what. Their MJ article is really good!
 
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Dorian said:
Nice to see you bluetopez here again.

The thread is back to life! :party:
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LOL thx! I think the psychic lady said some very nice and truthful things about MJ. I'm not really into psychic stuff like that, not sure if that type of stuff is real or not? But, it was an interesting vid. A lot if not all she said anyone could have come up with themselves if they did research on MJ! Which she clearly has for not being a prior fan! It was cool!

I'm sure all post another goody in a few days! ;) I like to know what EVERYONE is investigating as u can see! I pay attention to everything...The death investigation (Murray), The Hoax and those who think MJ was Murdered by others!

I don't want to be in the dark about nothing cause I want to know what happen to Michael...it's like a puzzle! But, everyone in the end is doing the same thing wanting to know the truth so I respect it all! The genuine ones I mean, the ones who truly care! :) So I hope know one get's offended anymore when I post things here? I'll stop until I feel there is nothing left to talk about or of course if it get's closed! So, hopefully I won't be the only one!? lol
 
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In any case its good to see that the general public haven't dismissed MJ's passing as a simple thing. There is so much surrounding it that doesn't add up, things that we can see don't really fit together.
 
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bluetopez said:
I'll stop until I feel there is nothing left to talk about or of course if it get's closed! So, hopefully I won't be the only one!? lol
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http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/
 
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^Ah yes the good ol come back dates! I know why they do it because it fits with their research, true! But, I rather not focus on that, it's been changed to many times since the start! Who could really know something like that? It really only brings more doubts and frustrated people in the end. I rather focus on why he could have did this instead....if true?
 
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Apparently Michael gave some fan a note that said see you in July 2011.
If Michael is alive and is not going to come back, why give us the clues?

EDIT: I asked a beLIEver on that forum for her opinion on Michael's return and this is what she replied:
Thank you for asking.

I don't have a comeback date for the mere reason that I would like to be surprised when it happens so I don't focus on that. However, if I was forced to guess, July 2011 has some strong arguments. He actually signed his autograph with the comment "See you July 2011". That was in May 2009.

The other guess would be that he'd appear at the first Cirque show. He actually started these negotiations before June 25th so what we are seeing come to fruition isn't just an effort on behalf of the Estate or Cirque. In fact, a lot of what we see coming to fruition now can be traced back before June 25, 2009. Michael is the genius behind his comeback, for sure.

Some others have felt maybe he'd return on the Oprah show but I'm not sure about that as many of Michael's supporters don't think very highly of her for not supporting him during his trial.

Before I became a beLIEver my focus was solely on helping to vindicate Michael by sending emails, comments, etc., to the numerous sites that have published false stories in an attempt to set the record straight and to hopefully sway some hearts to see the truth. That has remained my focus in addition to finding the truth about what happened on June, 25, 2009.

Blessings.
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KingMikeJ said:
Apparently Michael gave some fan a note that said see you in July 2011.
If Michael is alive and is not going to come back, why give us the clues?

EDIT: I asked a beLIEver on that forum for her opinion on Michael's return and this is what she replied:
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I know about that note, some say it's fake? but, who knows? Why give clues? Well to know that he didn't die that's why! To me it don't matter if he doesn't come back (if he didn't die) as long as he is happy! He can still be vindicated either way and has in some degree since June 25th! It's true that a lot of what we are seeing in terms of MJ projects that have come out and will come out was thought out by him before he passed, what Smart man!

http://youtu.be/0gtyPUy16b0

 
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This has probably been discussed before but here is the note I was talking about:

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Michael signed that for a fan outside the Staples Centre the night before the 25th June 2009. It hasn't been doctored or photoshopped - MJ wrote that the night before he died.
 
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Yes, I know about that note that's the one I was talking about!
 
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KingMikeJ said:
This has probably been discussed before but here is the note I was talking about:

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Michael signed that for a fan outside the Staples Centre the night before the 25th June 2009. It hasn't been doctored or photoshopped - MJ wrote that the night before he died.
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Maybe Michael was confused... instead of 2009, he put 2011. (???) :fear: Well, but nobody has 1000% sure that this note is true. The fan who received this note from Michael appeared? I do not know, but I think not.

I really do not know what to think about anything in this story. Big Mess!!!! :fear:
 
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Why would Michael say to a fan "Ill see you in July 2011?"... ..doesnt make sense!!!? ....

I dont really think this looks like Michaels writing that much anyhow, I think we really need more clues than that to believe he is coming back. Ive always said him coming back MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. Why go to the trouble and expense to fake your death and get privacy, only to come back????

Someone can explain that one PLEASE?
 
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Miche said:
Why would Michael say to a fan "Ill see you in July 2011?"... ..doesnt make sense!!!? ....

I dont really think this looks like Michaels writing that much anyhow, I think we really need more clues than that to believe he is coming back. Ive always said him coming back MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. Why go to the trouble and expense to fake your death and get privacy, only to come back????

Someone can explain that one PLEASE?
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Maybe he won't come back.Maybe it will be an important event?
 
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Miche said:
Ive always said him coming back MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL. Why go to the trouble and expense to fake your death and get privacy, only to come back????

Someone can explain that one PLEASE?
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i thought of that...his estate has already made hundreds of millions of dollars. i don't really know.

but if it was just for privacy, why put Murray in so much trouble? why leave a case that's been dragging on for 2 years? why have his mother sue AEG? why have the state spend for a trial and use its human resources for nothing (because he is alive)? doesn't seem like it's just for privacy. the stories coming out about him are getting worse and worse that i do wonder if he's coming back to once and for all disprove everything - and i mean everything, including details in the 2005 allegations like the cocaine in his "drawers", which is the topic of a tabloid article just yesterday, i think.

it does seem like the more ridiculous and really bad Murray's defense team's arguments are getting, the more the prosecution has to step up to disprove them. for a change, can we expect the government to be on his side this time? or is this wishful thinking?

he left so much of a mess and no one else can sort it out as well as he can. something like would he want his biography to end this way? which is not to say i'm sure that he's alive and sure that he's coming back. but in my opinion, he is likely to be - alive, that is.

that July 2011 thing, i don't know if it's just like the older photos he used to sign with "1998" or something. just a date far into the future. but those autographs didn't have "see you in..."
 
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mj_forever said:
i thought of that...his estate has already made hundreds of millions of dollars. i don't really know.

but if it was just for privacy, why put Murray in so much trouble? why leave a case that's been dragging on for 2 years? why have his mother sue AEG? why have the state spend for a trial and use its human resources for nothing (because he is alive)? doesn't seem like it's just for privacy. the stories coming out about him are getting worse and worse that i do wonder if he's coming back to once and for all disprove everything - and i mean everything, including details in the 2005 allegations like the cocaine in his "drawers", which is the topic of a tabloid article just yesterday, i think.

it does seem like the more ridiculous and really bad Murray's defense team's arguments are getting, the more the prosecution has to step up to disprove them. for a change, can we expect the government to be on his side this time? or is this wishful thinking?

he left so much of a mess and no one else can sort it out as well as he can. something like would he want his biography to end this way? which is not to say i'm sure that he's alive and sure that he's coming back. but in my opinion, he is likely to be - alive, that is.

that July 2011 thing, i don't know if it's just like the older photos he used to sign with "1998" or something. just a date far into the future. but those autographs didn't have "see you in..."
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Umm that was already disproved yrs ago so MJ wouldn't have to say or do anything or anyone for that matter! The test was made in a forensic lab for the Prosecution and no cocaine was found in the blood! There was only cocaine in the fabric on the underwear! If he actually used the cocaine it definitely would have been found in his blood! With so many people that came and went into Neverland I believe someone else was doing something they were not suppose to!
 
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blue, agree with you. but actually, the issue has become current again, even if it's being peddled by a tabloid online mag. and it might even figure in the trial. actually, i was shocked because the article even contained a supposed photo of the CK underwear. and one has to pay to access the article. it was reproduced in full at an MJ blog and that's where i saw it.
 
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I'm curious.....what would peoples reactions (fans, public and media alike) be if MJ did fake his death and came back? I personally don't believe in that but how would everyone react?
 
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My reaction would be happiness. I'd just be happy to finally have Michael back in my life.

I have asked this question to other people on this forum and some agree with me, but others say they would not be a fan any more and would sue Michael for emotional distress.
 
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Deniro UK said:
I'm curious.....what would peoples reactions (fans, public and media alike) be if MJ did fake his death and came back? I personally don't believe in that but how would everyone react?
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Most fans would be relieved, but I have to imagine there would be a large public and media backlash. (Unless most of the media is "in" on the hoax like many believe...) So if this is a hoax, there would be a deeper reason behind it rather than a PR stunt.
 
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mj_forever said:
blue, agree with you. but actually, the issue has become current again, even if it's being peddled by a tabloid online mag. and it might even figure in the trial. actually, i was shocked because the article even contained a supposed photo of the CK underwear. and one has to pay to access the article. it was reproduced in full at an MJ blog and that's where i saw it.
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It's really nothing to worry about. I know that this story was brought back up again and it's nothing but, Murray's PR working here to get people to believe MJ was a long time addict! What's important here to remember is that the Judge in the 05 trial didn't even allow this in because it was irrelevant to the Molestation case and the test came back FALSE!

This underwear/cocaine story is also irrelevant in the Murray case because like I said the test came back false. So it will not help in any way by saying see here "MJ was an long time addict." It would be really dumb to present into evidence something that was proven to be false yrs ago! lol

Also the autopsy report shows no damage organs or liver. Which for someone that was suppose to be an alleged addict for yrs as well as an alleged alcoholic (as this tabloid also said) is impossible!
 
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Originally Posted by Deniro UK
I'm curious.....what would peoples reactions (fans, public and media alike) be if MJ did fake his death and came back? I personally don't believe in that but how would everyone react?
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Those that have been REALLY following and believing or just paying attention for a long tme would be very happy and would understand his reasons behind it! Those that havn't would probably be mad and think it was a PR stunt and be selfish and cry about how much they were hurt! Yet, forget how much suffering this man as gone through to have to have done something like this!

Shit, I remember reading how when MJ was in the hospital on June 25th some fan was quick to say "there goes the concerts" they were pist that the shows would get canceled! Yet, not once said "Gee, I hope MJ is okay?"
 
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