Fraud, faking your death & why no official material has RIP, in memory or 1958 - 2009
by Sinderella » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:31 pm
Most welcome =]
Kai Chase is up next/currently on the stand...this should be interesting
Also,it is only illegal to fake your death if money is made from it ie your spouse claims your life insurance.
It is then fraud,theft,and you will go to prison for it.If the new album said 'in loving memory of Michael Jackson RIP' and people bought it,some based on the fact he was dead then it would be fraud-$$ made from his death.
Think about it...for a moment before you jump on me,what OFFICIAL products,events,anything that is MJ related have you seen with RIP on?Or that suggests he is dead?
You will be hard pushed to find anything officially licensed that has in loving memory on or RIP.They don't exist.
Even TII dvd,at the start it says June 25th Michael was only days away from going to London,and weeks from the tour' nowhere on that DVD does it say RIP Michael Jackson,rest in peace king of pop,in loving memory of MJ...it only says dedicated to his children.
I can't tell you how I know or why because..well I just can't(sorry) but there has not been one OFFICIAL/endorsed tribute show for Michael-you know the king of pop,the man who changed music,made MTV,inspired almost every living artist today....why?because they can't hold an event that people would go to based on it being for his 'memory' when he is not gone.There would be uproar and all hell would break loose.Refunds right and left.
Every show that has been 'planned' has been cancelled and not gone ahead.This is why.
First thing that should have happened is a tribute concert featuring global artists who owe him for his inspiration and so on...but nope....and No,Jermaine's Vegas show doesn't count because it was not promoted as a MJ tribute show or say RIP or in memory of.. it was Jermaine singing songs he wrote for J5 and doing a few of Michael's which could not be put onto DVD or be recorded/released.So nothing illegal went on there.People paid to see Jermaine.
Anything out there atm,is promoting his legacy,which he would have anyway dead or alive.It is his,regardless of him breathing or not.
The estate,family,bravado...do not promote his passing because to make money from it would get them in more than trouble.
His life insurance was cashed in by Sony before hand so nothing illegal there either.
(if anyone proves this to be wrong I will quit my job haha)
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The estate will be paying all taxes just like they have been paying the debts back using the money made since his 'death' but not made from promoting his death...used from rebuilding his image,the TII dvd,cd,merch,album sales,merch,etc.Still..nothing had RIP on.
What about the momorial service the tickets were clearly on sale...so this idea does not ad up tome...no official tribute...well this is one official tribute/good bye...
@loud they were not on sale,people entered their names into an online lottery from all around the world and they were picked at random.When you gave it in you got a wristband and programme.The city of LA footed the bill mostly.
Loud wrote:
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/QzWt...l+service+program/_KQAwSanwHE/Michael+Jackson
RIP right and clearly here!!! Sorry...
I think you dont get it. those words are from Grace Rwaramba. And I think she did not earn anything with that picture..
That was in the memorial book....which was not sold therefore no money was made from it....which is the point I made to start with.I never said the book never said RIP.I said merch,TII dvd,cd,Albums,and so on.Lack of tribute show etc etc.
Any memorial book being sold is from someone who was there and it is 2nd hand.They did not purchase it,it was part of being selected in the lottery.They are selling them for profit for themselves not to give back to the Estate.
I'm not sure why your trying to prove me wrong....I wouldn't have said it if it wasn't factual.
I work in music and Entertainment...I'm not speaking and not knowing what I am on about.
Sinderella wrote:... we discussed the possible idea that everyone up there is actually telling the truth.
No one has yet said it was M.J.Jackson. Only Michael Jackson... No one of credibility has stood up yet and said I saw his body it was 100% THE Michael Jackson...
They have only said they worked on someone by the name of Michael Jackson... then technically, everyone who has given evidence is telling the truth.They did work on a body, his initials were MJ and he did infact die...
The paramedic admitted on the stand that he overheard in the ambulance that it was Michael Jackson he had just tried to revive and it was only then he realised the request for a sheet to be put over his face-so while in the house..he musn't of even recognised him...
I agree. Listen to what is said on this video by LAFD spokesperson Steve Ruda - starting at 5:50.
Listen to the tone of his voice when he says this, it comes across as more like "they found their patient was, uh, Michael Jackson, later identified TO US as Michael Jackson" (sounds like they did not realize/recognize the patient as Michael Jackson until they were later told that the patient was Michael Jackson). Also at 6:40 when Ruda makes it clear that Dr. Murray "took on responsibility at the scene...Remember I told you that we have to ask the doctors.. do you take full responsibility for "this patient" - so, similar to UCLA's not making an official statement on the "death" - this almost sounds like the LAFD wants to make SURE that the public knows that "this patient" was identified to LAFD as Michael Jackson, LAFD didn't say it was Michael Jackson - and the responsibility for the patient and for Identifying the patient was put on Dr. Murray, not on the LAFD paramedics -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XuUHATR ... re=related
If you recall, UCLA in this link on their website -
http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/me ... 94914.aspx
said:" UCLA Newsroom > All Stories > Featured News
Statement on the death of Michael Jackson at UCLA Medical Center
By UCLA Newsroom June 25, 2009 Category: Campus News, Health Sciences
The family of Michael Jackson made this brief statement available on June 25 at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center:
The legendary King of Pop, Michael Jackson, passed away on Thursday, June 25, 2009, at 2:26 p.m. It is believed he suffered cardiac arrest in his home. However, the cause of his death is unknown until results of the autopsy are known.
His personal physician, who was with him at the time, attempted to resuscitate Jackson, as did paramedics who transported him to Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center. Upon arriving at the hospital at approximately 1:14 p.m., a team of doctors, including emergency physicians and cardiologists, attempted to resuscitate him for a period of more than one hour but were unsuccessful.
Jackson’s family requests that the media respect their privacy during this tragic period of time."
To me this implies that UCLA is providing for us, the public, this statement (from the family) concerning the "death of Michael Jackson" at UCLA Medical Center. Implying that UCLA does not take responsibility for the accuracy of this statement. THE FAMILY has made this statement available. The Family's statement says "the legendary King of Pop, Michael Jackson, passed away on Thursday, June 25, 2009." It does not say he passed away at the UCLA Medical Center - it says they were unsuccessful in resuscitating him at UCLA Medical Center. EVEN STILL, if the real 100% Michael Jackson had only been transported to UCLA, was already dead and could not be revived, wouldn't UCLA have made some sort of official statement about THAT?
by Sinderella » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:10 pm
@pepper,UCLA had no part in that statement,if they had and I am pretty sure someone OFFICIAL would have told the world that Michael Jackson was no more.
They have had no part in anything official,apart from this trial and if I'm right in my previous post,then they aren't lying either.
credit goes to kicki and havanna1 for pointing it out to me.
