The Discussion of MJ's Unreleased Tracks

[ChanceToDance]

The original recorded version was just Michael and a guitar according to Rob

Haven't heard the released version. I don't recall any other overdubs on the song, though there's an outside chance we put strings on it. If so, maybe Geoff Grace who's here on GS would remember. He and Brad were doing string arrangements for some of the songs during that part of the project. Other than that, it was just Mj and guitar

So is it safe to say that this version and the 1981 demo are basically the same thing?

 

[SmoothGangsta]

So is it safe to say that this version and the 1981 demo are basically the same thing?

We don't know anything about the 1981 demo, do we?

 

[MJbr2]

Speaking of Much Too Soon Mix #9, I recently came across this piece:

https://www.discogs.com/release/3530246-Michael-Jackson-HIStory

Is it legit?

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Yeah it's Little Susie that was established to sound just like the demo. We know nothing of the original MTS.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Speaking of Much Too Soon Mix #9, I recently came across this piece:

https://www.discogs.com/release/3530246-Michael-Jackson-HIStory

Is it legit?

Seems like it

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

John McClain was involved in the production of the 1994 Much Too Soon?

 

[MJbr2]

John McClain was involved in the production of the 1994 Much Too Soon?

Nope.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Nope.

Not according to this random MJ fandom wiki

 

[MJbr2]

Not according to this random MJ fandom wiki

The MJ fandom wiki is wrong then.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

The MJ fandom wiki is wrong then.

Riddlered with errors, but it did link to the multi tracks so that was cool.

 

[JamesCMJJ]

Mix 9 is just a less embellished version of the 2010 version. It's further developed, but that mix is just the 2010 mix with some missing instruments.

 

[Fuzball]

Speaking of Much Too Soon Mix #9, I recently came across this piece:

https://www.discogs.com/release/3530246-Michael-Jackson-HIStory

Is it legit?

HIStory Acetate? (Early/Alternate Versions)

does someone know more about this? is that real or fake? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-HIStory-ultra-rare-acetate-1994-studio-CDr-INCLUDING-Smile-/251057772328?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item3a74359728 Description: MICHAEL JACKSON HIStory (1994 studio CDr) / rarest CD with the song...

www.mjjcommunity.com

 

[MJbr2]

HIStory Acetate? (Early/Alternate Versions)

does someone know more about this? is that real or fake? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-HIStory-ultra-rare-acetate-1994-studio-CDr-INCLUDING-Smile-/251057772328?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item3a74359728 Description: MICHAEL JACKSON HIStory (1994 studio CDr) / rarest CD with the song...

www.mjjcommunity.com

Thanks, mate. I had no idea it had been discussed before.

 

[BlackAnon]

So is it safe to say that this version and the 1981 demo are basically the same thing?

Yes.....only difference is the 1981 version was registered as "Learned My Lesson"

 

[BlackAnon]

Mix 9 is just a less embellished version of the 2010 version. It's further developed, but that mix is just the 2010 mix with some missing instruments.

I figured because I played them back to back and there's not a huge difference so I didn't understand why some felt the 1994 mix was better when they're much the same

 

[SmoothGangsta]

They're really not the same at all, but ok.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Yes.....only difference is the 1981 version was registered as "Learned My Lesson"

You've heard it?

 

[BlackAnon]

They're really not the same at all, but ok.

What's different besides a little razzle dazzle?

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

What's different besides a little razzle dazzle?

Accordion does take a lot of the edge out of the song. But it's hardly a "contrmporization"

 

[SmoothGangsta]

Accordion does take a lot of the edge out of the song.

It ruins it. yeah.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

It ruins it. yeah.

You wouldn't even have known it wasn't part of the song if it wasn't for behind the scenes.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

You wouldn't even have known it wasn't part of the song if it wasn't for behind the scenes.

Too bad I live in this reality and not the made up one you're proposing.

 

[Mister_Jay_Tee]

Too bad I live in this reality and not the made up one you're proposing.

Give me a break, SmoothGangsta.

 

[JohnC]

Speaking of Much Too Soon Mix #9, I recently came across this piece:

https://www.discogs.com/release/3530246-Michael-Jackson-HIStory

Is it legit?

This is where the leaked snippet comes from.

Also, it might not be Mix 9.

 

[Fuzball]

Yes.....only difference is the 1981 version was registered as "Learned My Lesson"

2 versions with different titles were registered

Type of Work:	Music
Registration Number / Date:	PAu000684008 / 1985-01-14
Title:	Learned my lesson : Much too soon : 2 versions / Michael Jackson.
Description:	1 sound cassette.
Copyright Claimant:	Mijac Music
Date of Creation:	1981
Authorship on Application:	words & music: Michael Jackson.
Other Title:	Much too soon
Names:	Jackson, Michael
	Mijac Music

 

[BlackAnon]

2 versions with different titles were registered

Type of Work:	Music
Registration Number / Date:	PAu000684008 / 1985-01-14
Title:	Learned my lesson : Much too soon : 2 versions / Michael Jackson.
Description:	1 sound cassette.
Copyright Claimant:	Mijac Music
Date of Creation:	1981
Authorship on Application:	words & music: Michael Jackson.
Other Title:	Much too soon
Names:	Jackson, Michael
	Mijac Music

2 different titles but same song. The same can be said with Hot Fever/TWYMMF, What About Us/Earth Song and The Toy/Best of Joy

 

[Bad1978]

It's the rumoured title for MJ's Invincible follow-up album. It's fake btw.

Thanks

 

[Hollywood_Tonight]

Riddlered with errors, but it did link to the multi tracks so that was cool.

Regardless of how everyone feels about mix #9, I’m almost positive this can be recreated using those multitracks. The hardest part will be discerning which ones are from the 1994 sessions and which ones are from 2010.

 

[SmoothGangsta]

I’m almost positive this can be recreated using those multitracks.

Pretty sure that's not the case.

 

[Griffin]

Does anyone know info about the song “Too late to turn back now”? Mentioned in list of songs found on Michael’s wall and also mentioned in Joe Vogel’s book. Could possibly be a cover of a song by the Cornelius Brothers.