Taj Jackson tweets about fans talking about Katherine

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With all due respect, respect is earned, not just given because you happen to be related to MJ. Love and respect are two different things, NOT the same. I don't hate the Jackson's, I dislike them, but they have done nothing for me to give them my repspect.

The community has many fans. But not all who participate in this discussion. So it does not reflect the general opinion of Michael's fans.
We love Michael and this extends to his mother and his children. Respect them. These offenses also cause us pain.
 
Exactly! Once people start screaming and yelling, the message stops to go across. I would not listen to any stranger who insult my family publicly. Periold. So, I understand where Taj is coming from.



Who said fans have to sit back, put on rose-colored glasses and be in ignorant bliss? Being angry and frustrated won't change anything for the better. Although fans don't intend to, some are spreading hatred through name calling. Instead of fixating on the Jacksons, whose behavior we cannot change, we shall focus our energy on matters we may be able to make an impact, like flagging offensive youtube video clips, writing to the media demanding them to stop using the racial term "Ja*ko", supporting worthy projects like Joe Vogel's upcoming book on Michael's music, etc...

The Jacksons may be clueless. But, they are not the real predators. People in the media, like Nancy Grace and Diane Dimon, are.

I don't like that fans are name calling either. There's a bitterness against the family, but it's not like anyone wants to feel that bitterness. It's not like we don't already know that Michael loved his mother and he wouldn't want us to speak about her in such an unkind manner. I want more than anything for the family to defend Michael, to stand up for him and speak kindly of him because Michael is no longer here to do so for himself. Why should we have to brace ourselves every time Michael's sister does an interview? We shouldn't have to run around trying to defend Michael's legacy over things his family has stated. Why do I have to defend Michael against his own family? That's not how it should be. If they can't respect Michael's wishes, why should Michael's fans respect theirs? I'm not saying they're worse than Diane Dimond, but they want our support and they have yet to earn it.

Who's to say that the fans haven't been flagging offensive youtube videos, or supporting Vogel's book? Who's to say that we haven't been against people calling Michael derogatory names and that we don't know that people like Grace and Dimond are the real predators? We absolutely know about these other people and what's being said about Michael. We've all had numerous discussions about all of that before in other threads. This thread is a Jackson thread, and that's who we're talking about. That doesn't mean we've forgotten about everything else.
 
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This is the thing I personally found ironic.

Going back to the whole album debate, most fans took T3's side over Teddy because he rube twits by fans over the album. Some going as far as calling him a sell-out and a traitor. He lashed out at these fans and those fans used that to show how 'dignify' T3 was over Teddy, because they respected the fans.

Now, I see those same fans who hammered Teddy for defending his honor on twitter trying to protect Taj because he was rude to fans. Justify or not, he only showed outrage on projects that involved him and his brothers. He said crap when people called his uncle an addict, made him sound incompetent, questioned him as a parent and claim to doing a better job than him, and pimping his kids in front of the camera. In fact, he said nothing when one of his cousins suggested that there was something wrong by the way Michael comfort them when their mother was murdered. Seriously, how can you let that pass?

I am more upset with T3's selected fights than anything else. They claim to want to protect their uncle, but do crap besides used their uncle's name to support their point of view. They don't even protect their own grandmother who they love. If they did, how do half these leeches find their way into Mrs. Jackson's life? Including a known stalker, a manager that stole money from Michael, and a porn production. Someone hasn't been doing their job.
 
Okay Love, I have just had an enlightening experience, and found out you are completely right. Everything you said is right; all your arguments and counter arguments are right; I am going to take your advice from here on forward.

Now lets pull the group back together, because we have some bitter times ahead--just a few more weeks.
 
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Well.....


There is a white elephant in Brazil? :doh: Maybe so? I'm sure Brazil is a wonderful country, whether or not it has a population of white elephants -- that no one can see? Or maybe we have entered the Twilight Zone where posts are appearing differently to different people, or something like that? :woohoo:(In which case, we should probably put on our tin-foil helmets?). Sorry for digression, but. . . . . .:D

Ops... I've never seen a white elephant in Brazil. :lol: Maybe I'm having vision problems? :scratch: :fear: :p
 
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Ops... I've never seen a white elephant in Brazil. :lol: Maybe I'm having vision problems? :scratch: :fear: :p
Ash I just found out from another poster that "country" means parents or mother and father in your language. We have been seeing white elephants here, and someone threw a "magic dart" at us.
 
You obviously didn't catch the irony in my post. I'll say it again, it shouldn't be the FANS responsibility to do what the Jackson family should be doing. Nor did you understand my point. I care nothing about the Jackson's, ONLY MJ. Let's be clear about that. I voice my opinions on their actions, and inactions, as they are the ones fame-whoring for the cameras and money. Oh my dear, but MJ fans DO have a say...ask the Jackson's whose MONEY they want? They want MJ fans money, and without the fans, they ARE nothing, as evidenced by their desperation to cling onto and hawk ANYTHING MJ, including his children.!

They want your money. You can choose not to spend your money on them. Your say is limited on how you spend your money. You can either buy their products or walk away from their porducts. If you don't like them, don't be a fan. Walk away. End of story. They didn't force you to be their fans. It's your choice.

Tell me what can you do to change their behaviors? If we can make a change, I'll join you.

If you believe Michael's own family didn't stab him in the back, you're living in a parallel universe. Check Latoya, Jermaine, Katherine, and the rest of them, who tried to belittle him, by claiming that he would be NOTHING without the J5, when in reality, they would have been NOTHING without HIM. He was the CHOSEN ONE, BY GOD, NOT them. Their cuts, cut the deepest, as they were the ones, he (MJ) expected, or would expect to have his back above all else, and they haven't and don't.

Where did I say, Sneddon, Dimond, etc. were better for MJ? You need to go back and re-read my post slowly, as I said no such thing.

Where and when did the family say Michael was nothing without them? Have you considered that you might have taken a comment totally out of context. If you want to get your message across, then you better be factual.

I didn't say you mean Sneddon et. al. were better for Michael, I said if you think Sneddon was better for Michael THAN the Jacksons, I don't know what to say.


Abuse can be emotional and psychological. If you don't believe Blanket is troubled emotionally and psychologically by these interviews and appearances he's being pushed into, you need to look again. That childs face, and eyes says it ALL.!

This is a typical psycho-analysis from a person with no first hand knowledge. You look at a picture of Blanket and make all these assumptions. Have you talked to Blanket before? Do you know what Blanket's personality really like? You don't know Blanket; yet, you are able to conclude that he's troubled psycologically? Frankly, I find it ridiculous. If you are so sure that Blanket is emotionally abused, take that picute with you to the CA DFCS and file a complaint and see if you can save him from his supposed misery.

I hate to say it. But, what you are doing is no much more different than a plastic surgeon who had never met Michael in person, but dare to say he'd had dozens plastic surgeries by looking at a picture. Don't you think your view is influenced by your negative perceptions?

And NO, the children are NOT just getting spotlight, they're being EXPLOITED, and that's a horse of a different color. If you don't believe EXPLOITATION is abusive, ask MJ...oops, you can't, because he's deceased. Even before his death, MJ lamented on what the "spotlight and exploitation" of him as a child did to him, and he considered it abuse, and that IS abuse!

I acknowlege the pain and suffering during Michael's childhood. Michael's childhood was totally different than the children's situation. Has any one of them perform on a stage yet? Like you, I don't like the spotlight and attention they are receiving. But, they are born to Michael Jackson. Unfortunately, the spotlight will follow them.
 
I am so shock in how some fans THINK they have some right in to tell the Jackson family how to behave in such a rude way!
I do not like all they do, how ever I AM NOT RUDE ABOUT IT! Some ppl should learn to know their limits and some manars !!!
We like it or not is THEIR FAMILY, WE ARE NOT FAMILY, WE HAVE NO SAY IN ANY DECITION THEY MAKE AND WE HAVE NO RIGHT IN THEIR FAMILY BUSINESS!! THAT IS IT!!! I cant bealive how some ppl dont get that!

IS NOT YOUR FAMILY! IS NOT YOUR MONEY! So stop being rude with them and keep your opinion to your self!

Besides the most of these ppl being rude on Internet are hipocrist because I bet if they meet any of the Jackson Family memebers they would be all nice and "honored". People is just behaving like this cause is Internet and they can do it with no consecuenses.

Pathetic!!-_-
 
MariAndMichael;3473729 said:
country - Parents - father and mother

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I think there's something wrong here.... :fear: Look:


country (pa
ís in Portuguese) > A country is a geographical region.

pais in Portuguese = Parents/father and mother in English




Petrarose;3473763 said:
Ash I just found out from another poster that "country" means parents or mother and father in your language. We have been seeing white elephants here, and someone threw a "magic dart" at us.

Seriously, I'm trying to understand it so far. Or I'm too stupid to understand it. :lol:
 
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Ash, what happened is that they person spelled the word wrong. They wrote "country" but you write "pais" can you look back 1 or 2 pages at Mari's post and tell me what is the correct thing. What is the connection between "country" and "Pais"?

Mari white elephant is not a joke on you. That is another word written by another poster.
 
Does the "Yall" include everyone? I have to disagree, as I'm going by what Taj said himself, and what I saw/see, and I'm calling it like I see it, noone else. It was an insult to many MJ fans when he himself questioned their loyalty, etc. You shouldn't dish out an insult, on the sly, if you can't take an insult back.

It's NOT throwing a stone, when you're telling the TRUTH. If that is the case, then stone me, cause I'm going to tell the TRUTH, not some altered version of reality in which, one spins around with fairies and pixie dust, thinking, and faking that everything is a-o.k. Telling the TRUTH will help MJ, as some of his own family has been lieing in the Media, etc. So, if the FANS aren't going to tell the TRUTH, the Jackson family will continue to tell these lies they've been peddling since 2009. I'm for TRUTH. If you're a liar, you're a liar, and you should be called on it.

The Jackons family is also a part of the problem with the Media thinking ALL MJ fans are crazy. Have we NOT had LaToya further these conspiracy claims, encouraging unstable MJ fans even more into believing that MJ was assassinated, and that Murray is the "Fall Guy"? Her foolishness, helps push that fringe even more.

Of course it doesnt include everyone. Its a figure of speech and addressed to those who are hindering
the genuine work many in the MJ community are doing to adress these valid concerns. Im not disagreeing
with much of what you say. I dont agree with all your opinions But please note they are just your opinions
other opinions here are just as valid as yours.
 
I don't like that fans are name calling either. There's a bitterness against the family, but it's not like anyone wants to feel that bitterness. It's not like we don't already know that Michael loved his mother and he wouldn't want us to speak about her in such an unkind manner. I want more than anything for the family to defend Michael, to stand up for him and speak kindly of him because Michael is no longer here to do so for himself. Why should we have to brace ourselves every time Michael's sister does an interview? We shouldn't have to run around trying to defend Michael's legacy over things his family has stated. Why do I have to defend Michael against his own family? That's not how it should be. If they can't respect Michael's wishes, why should Michael's fans respect theirs? I'm not saying they're worse than Diane Dimond, but they want our support and they have yet to earn it.

Why? I wish I have an answer. But, I don't. I can't make sense of many of the family's decisions. But, like I said, I can't change their way of thinking. I can only change mine. I can only do what I think is best for Michael. As for whether fans should respect the Jacksons' wishes? Of course we don't need to. I did't support LaToya's book or Jermaine's single or Katherine's book. I walk away from their products. Since I'm not a fan of theirs and I don't support them, so they don't need to change anything to earn my support.

Who's to say that the fans haven't been flagging offensive youtube videos, or supporting Vogel's book? Who's to say that we haven't been against people calling Michael derogatory names and that we don't know that people like Grace and Dimond are the real predators? We absolutely know about these other people and what's being said about Michael. We've all had numerous discussions about all of that before in other threads. This thread is a Jackson thread, and that's who we're talking about. That doesn't mean we've forgotten about everything else.

I didn't say or hint you haven't done any of the above. I guess I just want to point out that flagging offensive youtube videos and supporting Joe Vogel's books can make a difference, while continuously expressing anger and frustrations towards the Jacksons will not change anything (on the contrary, those actions may even hinder the progreass made by many other fans.) I have learned my lesson on how tiny our voices over things we exercise no control are over the past year.

I totally understand the need to express our frustrations in a fan forum. At the end of the day, this is what a fan forum is all about. But, sometimes, it's helpful to think about what really should be the priorities.
 
This term is the White Elephant? What does it mean? Is some irony directed at me?

It's an idiom. It means that there's obviously something wrong, and we know we can see it but we ignore it. I don't think it was directed at you personally. It seemed like more of a general statement. :/

Okay.. enough about elephants :lol:
 
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I am so shock in how some fans THINK they have some right in to tell the Jackson family how to behave in such a rude way!
I do not like all they do, how ever I AM NOT RUDE ABOUT IT! Some ppl should learn to know their limits and some manars !!!
We like it or not is THEIR FAMILY, WE ARE NOT FAMILY, WE HAVE NO SAY IN ANY DECITION THEY MAKE AND WE HAVE NO RIGHT IN THEIR FAMILY BUSINESS!! THAT IS IT!!! I cant bealive how some ppl dont get that!

IS NOT YOUR FAMILY! IS NOT YOUR MONEY! So stop being rude with them and keep your opinion to your self!

Besides the most of these ppl being rude on Internet are hipocrist because I bet if they meet any of the Jackson Family memebers they would be all nice and "honored". People is just behaving like this cause is Internet and they can do it with no consecuenses.

Pathetic!!-_-

You're partly wrong on this statement. It is our money because it is our money who fund these projects. The Jacksons need our support and money for this tribute to go forward. Without 'us' they don't get crap. So, we have the right to voice our grievances when we are the ones who are paying for the service. So, it is not in your power to say we shouldn't be upset.

We also have some rights within the 'family's' business because we are the family business. We are the main buyers and they are the ones telling us to go screw ourselves and telling people who are 'real' fans.

Rudeness is something I never liked and agree with you on that part. However, who are you say to another person, 'keep your opinion to your self.' The last time I checked you had no right to make such a statement. Especially since everything you just wrote is your own opinion and by your statement you should also keep it to yourself. Unless you are trying to suggest your opinion is higher than others.

By the way, I had more than a few chances to see Michael's family. I even saw Joe at a restaurant about a year before Michael's death. Guess what, I didn't care about them than and I certainly don't give a damn about them now. So, I suggest you don't paint everyone in one brush and think you're getting your point across.
 
I think the media, as usual, is blowing Taj's tweets out of proportion. I don't see Taj blameed all of Michael's fans. He didn't have issues with the fanbase. Instead, he called out the people who call his grandma names. He expressed that people don't need to agree with him or like him. But, turning the disappointment into hatred is everything Michael's against. Calling Katherine Jackson names, like Greedy Katherine, Crazy Katherine, Jackson$, is unnecessary and rude. You think Michael like seeing his fans calling his mom all sort of nasty names? (Now, please stop accusing me for playing the "Michael" card. I got that many times. I'm a Michael Jackson fan. I look up to him. I want to mirror my character to his character. If you don't like it, that's fine.)

People here have all the right reasons to be concerned. And, our concerns are valid. We feel frustrated. We want our voice be heard. But, that doesn't give people's right to go to the Jacksons' twitter accounts and leave disrespectful posts. We can criticize, but when the criticism is borderline personal attack. Then, our concerns are invalidated and our voice is minimized. It's not who shouts the loudest that are heard. It's the people who are able to express their disappointments and concerns eloquently and respectfully that are heard.

And, don't forget that we all are seeing things from the outside. We think we know a lot about the family. The truth is we do not. Unless we live in that household, spend time with them, talk to them, we do not get a complete picture of the family dynamic. I understand Michael is dear in our hearts. But, to the children, to his mother, we are all strangers. What would you think a total stranger (or, a not so closed friend) criticize your mother publicly?

I do not agree with the Jacksons' business decisions. At the same time, I find the some of fans' sarcastic remarks on the Jacksons irrational.

Instead of focusing our energy on bashing the Jacksons, is it more constructive to focus our efforts on the real predators who aimed to destroy Michael, like Diane Dimon, and the media in general?

Couldn't have said it better myself. N its sadder to me when people try to justify it because there is no justification
 
Last time, as you seem to be having a problem comprehending... I do choose NOT to spend my money on the Jackson's, ONLY MJ, what part of that didn't you get? I also said in the same post, that I'm not a fan of the Jackson's, but MJ. Again, what part didn't you get, since you're trying to apparently be clever...Reading is fundamental, and if you had been so diligent in reading what I wrote, you would have seen that I alread stated ALL of these things above. P.S. It's hard to be "forced" to be a fan of someone I've alread stated I was NOT a fan of.


I wont even respond to your sacarctic question, as you have shown me, that we are not on par with each other. Tell them to see a therapist or psychologist, as that is what they desperately need.



Once again, your comprehension is lacking. Nowhere did I sate that you said anything about MJ being Nothing without J5. In fact, what I said was, THEY have been saying that. So, you need to come at me with something FACTUAL, not something you've pulled out of your ass or the air. Don't come at me with nonsense, when I can prove what I stated, and for the record, whatver I say, if I say it once, I'll say it again, and I can back it up.



About Sneddon, once again you're trying to play semantics, and failing. Re-read what I said.


And before you try and lecture me on pyschoanalyzing someone, maybe you should take a step back, and stop doing it yourself. You sat up here, and proclaimed that these kids are happy, loved. Now, how in fact do YOU know this? As you asked me, do you know them, are you there, do you know their personalities, do you live in their home, etc.? Don't be a hypocrite. And you can take your self-righteous attitude and stick it. Don't come for me on your own little fake sense of a power/ego trip. You stick to what you know, and I stick to what I see, and what my common sense tells me.


For the record, ALL of our views are shaped by our perceptions, even yours.

For you to say Michael's childhood was different from PPB is pure BS. What is so different, besides the fact that they are not being beaten I'd presume. They are being treated and exploited to make money the SAME way their father was, or are you blocking that out of your mind? They are being peddled to the public like a cheap barganing tool, the same way MJ was. They are being treated like circus monkey's, by being forced, though they believe their family has good intentions, to hawk Joe Jackson's perfume, etc. These children are also being taught to go against their father's Estate at the behest of their vulturistic fammiy. If something in there doesn't jump out at you, that these kids are being treated like MJ, you're missing a real, big point. Are they performing on a stage yet? That is the most juvenile question you could have asked. But since you don't seem to get it, YES, they are performing on a stage, a public stage, in front of ALL the cameras, tabloids, etc. or did you miss those lights and stage in their backyard that they had with Oprah?





They want your money. You can choose not to spend your money on them. Your say is limited on how you spend your money. You can either buy their products or walk away from their porducts. If you don't like them, don't be a fan. Walk away. End of story. They didn't force you to be their fans. It's your choice.

Tell me what can you do to change their behaviors? If we can make a change, I'll join you.



Where and when did the family say Michael was nothing without them? Have you considered that you might have taken a comment totally out of context. If you want to get your message across, then you better be factual.

I didn't say you mean Sneddon et. al. were better for Michael, I said if you think Sneddon was better for Michael THAN the Jacksons, I don't know what to say.




This is a typical psycho-analysis from a person with no first hand knowledge. You look at a picture of Blanket and make all these assumptions. Have you talked to Blanket before? Do you know what Blanket's personality really like? You don't know Blanket; yet, you are able to conclude that he's troubled psycologically? Frankly, I find it ridiculous. If you are so sure that Blanket is emotionally abused, take that picute with you to the CA DFCS and file a complaint and see if you can save him from his supposed misery.

I hate to say it. But, what you are doing is no much more different than a plastic surgeon who had never met Michael in person, but dare to say he'd had dozens plastic surgeries by looking at a picture. Don't you think your view is influenced by your negative perceptions?



I acknowlege the pain and suffering during Michael's childhood. Michael's childhood was totally different than the children's situation. Has any one of them perform on a stage yet? Like you, I don't like the spotlight and attention they are receiving. But, they are born to Michael Jackson. Unfortunately, the spotlight will follow them.
 
Petrarose;3473778 said:
Ash, what happened is that they person spelled the word wrong.

Exactly!!!!





Petrarose;3473778 said:
They wrote "country" but you write "pais" can you look back 1 or 2 pages at Mari's post and tell me what is the correct thing. What is the connection between "country" and "Pais"?

Connection between "country"/ pa
ís and "parents"/pais? No connection! :lol: :p One thing has nothing to do with the other. ;) In English is parents/father and mother and in Brazil is pais (not país = country). Pais is correct here in Brazil.





MariAndMichael;3473782 said:
País - In Portugueses is Country
Pais - In portuguese is father and mother

The accent changes the meaning of the word.

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Of course I know that! :smilerolleyes:


 
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Paris may already have a smidget of an idea of what's being said....as I noticed she retweeted one of Tajs tweets.
Yea cause people tweet her negative stuff about them to her like she is gonna believe a stranger over her relatives
 
Guys, at some point you will have to call off the battle, because a mod is going to come in here soon.
 
Umm..with all due respect, some JACKSON'S themselves aimed to destroy MJ too! Does Jermaines Word to the Bad, and that slanderous book he keeps denying he was writing, and LaToya's T.V. mess, back then, and even to this day, ring a bell? If we're going to speak TRUTH, speak ALL of it, not just parts that we want. I'm just saying...

You're talking about incidents that happened 20 years ago... They as family moved on from that and so should you
 
Never said anyone elses opinion here wasn't as valid as mine...so, where does that come from? Never said anyone else couldn't express theirs either, though I may disagree with it either. Not to sound rude because I actually like you q, but I didn't need a lecture about opinions, so I don't know where that is coming from. I will continue to express it on here and Twitter.

Of course it doesnt include everyone. Its a figure of speech and addressed to those who are hindering
the genuine work many in the MJ community are doing to adress these valid concerns. Im not disagreeing
with much of what you say. I dont agree with all your opinions But please note they are just your opinions
other opinions here are just as valid as yours.
 
MOD Note
Please note that Taj Jackson is not responsible for what others in the Jackson family do.
This discussion is about Taj tweets and fans responses to them not a free for all to bash
the whole Jackson family thread.

Lets try and stay on topic. if you wish to discuss what other other Jackson fam members
are doing start your own thread _ dont derail this topic with it.
 
First of all, Latoya saying crap about MJ didn't happen 20 years ago, some she has said in the past 2 years, so please, before you jump into a conversation, know your facts, of what I'm speaking of, which I clearly stated. I don't give a hoot, if the family has moved on, and obviously, from Ms. LaToya, fame-whoring and them using MJ's name for EVERYTHING, they have NOT moved on. Furthermore, who are YOU to tell me what I need to move on from? Maybe you need to move on from kissing their asses...I'm just saying. Before you try and come out the side of your mouth about and to someone, know what the world you are talking about.

You're talking about incidents that happened 20 years ago... They as family moved on from that and so should you
 
Thanks. It cited and citing my messages Brazil. So I thought it was directed at me.

Not at ALL directed at you. It was part of a collection of. . . . . "interesting" (but strange) things people have been saying in this thread. Beginning with the confusion between "country" and "parents." And then someone else mentioned a "white elephant," which is a idiom in English (but is also. . strange... in this thread). It went downhill from there, where someone else mentioned "magic darts." It was an attempt to lighten the mood, with HUMOR! It worked, to some (small) extent? :blush:
 
You're partly wrong on this statement. It is our money because it is our money who fund these projects. The Jacksons need our support and money for this tribute to go forward. Without 'us' they don't get crap. So, we have the right to voice our grievances when we are the ones who are paying for the service. So, it is not in your power to say we shouldn't be upset.

We also have some rights within the 'family's' business because we are the family business. We are the main buyers and they are the ones telling us to go screw ourselves and telling people who are 'real' fans.

Rudeness is something I never liked and agree with you on that part. However, who are you say to another person, 'keep your opinion to your self.' The last time I checked you had no right to make such a statement. Especially since everything you just wrote is your own opinion and by your statement you should also keep it to yourself. Unless you are trying to suggest your opinion is higher than others.

By the way, I had more than a few chances to see Michael's family. I even saw Joe at a restaurant about a year before Michael's death. Guess what, I didn't care about them than and I certainly don't give a damn about them now. So, I suggest you don't paint everyone in one brush and think you're getting your point across.

LIke I say I dont like everyting they do, but is not my position to tell them how to behave or call Katherine "greddy" for example.

And is not your money, is theirs in the minute you give them to them. But if you dont like something like the Tribute or some service, or some show, movie, etc YOU DONT GO... that is it. So you dont have to be part of the family business if you dont want to, is very simple.... dont buy stuff, dont go to the the shows, etc.
Another thing is getting your self in the bussines of someone else, we dont have any right! If I dont like or agree I just dont buy or go. BTW I am not agree on the Trinute Concert and I am not going!! I am not agreeing on it... BUT I am not being rude with the family about it or calling them names!!
THAT IS TOO MUCH!
I wonder what Michael say if he knew ppl is attaking his mother, nephew and family???

And if you read I say "the most of these ppl" I didnt say "all of them".

I know MJ is a very emotional person for a lot of us, but there is a limit. We as fans can not be rude to the family cause we dont like how are they managing the family bussines cause as I said before WE ARE NOT FAMILY!


I also wonder how some of these ppl would react if someone else talk abot their family like this?? Not nice ha? :no:
 
MOD Note
Please note that Taj Jackson is not responsible for what others in the Jackson family do.
This discussion is about Taj tweets and fans responses to them not a free for all to bash
the whole Jackson family thread.

Lets try and stay on topic. if you wish to discuss what other other Jackson fam members
are doing start your own thread _ dont derail this topic with it.

True, but the main problem is that he has done nothing to stop or help the problems within that family. He was the one who claimed to want to protect his uncle and his grandmother. So, why shouldn't fans call him out on it when it doesn't do what he promise to do.

How can he say he is protecting his uncle when said nothing about Gene being invited. If what GL said is true, they are the ones who invited KISS without telling the family. Why didn't he or one of his brothers Google KISS instead of letting their grandmom make a fool of herself on national television by talking about how much Michael loved KISS and how she was happy to have them? Where was the outraged when Aaron went around telling people Michael gave him drugs? The list goes on, yet he chose this hill to die on and he has direct ties to.

It is hard to separate Taj's actions from the rest of the family when he comes off as looking as self-serving as Toya.
 
Their actions have been beyong frustrating and fans are just tired of it all. Nobody should say vile things to the family. I agree that it doesn't help. I think we should just ignore the Jacksons and focus on Michael and things his estate deals with. When Michael was alive I didn't pay attention to them and I don't want to pay attention to them now. His family use Michael, his kids , his fans and the media for whatever project or money making idea of the moment. It's a sad reality that has played out in front of us the last 2 years.

At this point if the do they tribute it's about them anyways and my mind is too much on the trial now. There is nothing we can do at this point. They know this tribute isn't supported and they will face whatever happens later. I have a feeling there will be problems from this down the road. They will have to deal with it not us.
 
Why? I wish I have an answer. But, I don't. I can't make sense of many of the family's decisions. But, like I said, I can't change their way of thinking. I can only change mine. I can only do what I think is best for Michael. As for whether fans should respect the Jacksons' wishes? Of course we don't need to. I did't support LaToya's book or Jermaine's single or Katherine's book. I walk away from their products. Since I'm not a fan of theirs and I don't support them, so they don't need to change anything to earn my support.



I didn't say or hint you haven't done any of the above. I guess I just want to point out that flagging offensive youtube videos and supporting Joe Vogel's books can make a difference, while continuously expressing anger and frustrations towards the Jacksons will not change anything (on the contrary, those actions may even hinder the progreass made by many other fans.) I have learned my lesson on how tiny our voices over things we exercise no control are over the past year.

I totally understand the need to express our frustrations in a fan forum. At the end of the day, this is what a fan forum is all about. But, sometimes, it's helpful to think about what really should be the priorities.

I guess you're right. It's true that we should express our frustrations here, as opposed to insulting them on twitter, but I do understand it in a sense. I think that's the only way fans feel they can change what's going on. It's a way to speak with the family directly and explain the way they feel about their actions, hoping that the family would take their concerns into account, see the wrong for themselves and fix it on their own. Still, the Jacksons can change only what they want to change. I do agree with you that if you don't like something the family has done, you shouldn't feel obligated to support them. It's just frustrating because we're their target audience, so they're always trying to get our attention. I don't see Taj coming down hard on Janet's fans, and you should see the things they've said about his uncle! They're actively pursuing us, and only us :lol: It's hard to avoid them when there in front of your face all the time.
 
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