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^^ Exactly. And who is he to say what a "true" fan is? Michael loved all of us equally and treated us with respect. The family would do well to remember that.
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I wrote this awhile ago in the tribute thread, but I think my comments are best suited here:
In some ways I understand where he is coming from, but the all his twits come across as one long self-pity rant. Yes, somethings said about Mrs. Jackson are bad, but the truth is most of it is more than justify. Two or even five years ago the media nor fans would never called her those names. In fact both the media and fans loved or at least respect Mrs. Jackson and no one spoke a bad word against her. The worst thing said about her was her role during the abused Joe talked about, but even that was kind of shrugged off.
Sorry, but pimping the kids on Oprah when everyone knew how Michael felt about his kids being seen by the public, talking about his surgeries knowing he never liked to talked about it, trying to take over his estate when his will clearly laid out her role after his death, working against his estate on a number of occasion, telling everyone that she is broke while receiving more money in a month that most people make in a year, having people run around calling her dead son an addict and doing nothing to stop it and even encouraging it, given the impression that she is a better parent than Michael, but say her deadbeat sons are great fathers, and now this concert that looked like a giant money scheme and we supposed to smile and take it.
Now Taj is trying to pin this all on fans for not kissing Mrs. Jackson's butt and calling everything rosy. Michael may had seen her as saint, but she never once pulled this kind of crap when he was alive nor would she dare to call his nose a toothpick on nation television. Mother or not, that is low.
Taj, aren't you supposed to be protecting your uncle's legacy? Where were you when KISS was announce? Where was that twitter outrage you showed during the whole album debate? Is supposedly fake songs means more to you than inviting someone who called your uncle a child molester and continue to say so even now? If you're going to protect Michael's name, PROTECT HIS NAME AND STOP BLAMING FANS WHEN YOUR FAMILY CHOSE TO ACT STUPID OR AT LEAST PROTECT YOUR GRANDMOM FOR ALL THE LEECHES THAT DROVE YOUR UNCLE TO HIS GRAVE.
Edit: There is one more thing I want to add.
As someone pointed out Taj didn't start attacking fans until this tribute. He said crap when concerns were raised about Oprah, the HTW mess, ect. However, now I objections over this tribute is what pushed him over the edge? The fact that him and his brothers are one of the big acts has nothing to with it, right? I swear this entire family is a self-serving mess. Just like the pitch a bitch over the album because their songs didn't make the final cut. I actually didn't believe some of the stuff Teddy said about them, but these twits shows they are just as greedy as the rest within that family.
I swear, was Michael really the only one not motive by money within that family? Pathetic and tragic. Fighting for his uncle's legacy my butt.
In some ways I understand where he is coming from, but the all his twits come across as one long self-pity rant. Yes, somethings said about Mrs. Jackson are bad, but the truth is most of it is more than justify. Two or even five years ago the media nor fans would never called her those names. In fact both the media and fans loved or at least respect Mrs. Jackson and no one spoke a bad word against her. The worst thing said about her was her role during the abused Joe talked about, but even that was kind of shrugged off.
Sorry, but pimping the kids on Oprah when everyone knew how Michael felt about his kids being seen by the public, talking about his surgeries knowing he never liked to talked about it, trying to take over his estate when his will clearly laid out her role after his death, working against his estate on a number of occasion, telling everyone that she is broke while receiving more money in a month that most people make in a year, having people run around calling her dead son an addict and doing nothing to stop it and even encouraging it, given the impression that she is a better parent than Michael, but say her deadbeat sons are great fathers, and now this concert that looked like a giant money scheme and we supposed to smile and take it.
Now Taj is trying to pin this all on fans for not kissing Mrs. Jackson's butt and calling everything rosy. Michael may had seen her as saint, but she never once pulled this kind of crap when he was alive nor would she dare to call his nose a toothpick on nation television. Mother or not, that is low.
Taj, aren't you supposed to be protecting your uncle's legacy? Where were you when KISS was announce? Where was that twitter outrage you showed during the whole album debate? Is supposedly fake songs means more to you than inviting someone who called your uncle a child molester and continue to say so even now? If you're going to protect Michael's name, PROTECT HIS NAME AND STOP BLAMING FANS WHEN YOUR FAMILY CHOSE TO ACT STUPID OR AT LEAST PROTECT YOUR GRANDMOM FOR ALL THE LEECHES THAT DROVE YOUR UNCLE TO HIS GRAVE.
Edit: There is one more thing I want to add.
As someone pointed out Taj didn't start attacking fans until this tribute. He said crap when concerns were raised about Oprah, the HTW mess, ect. However, now I objections over this tribute is what pushed him over the edge? The fact that him and his brothers are one of the big acts has nothing to with it, right? I swear this entire family is a self-serving mess. Just like the pitch a bitch over the album because their songs didn't make the final cut. I actually didn't believe some of the stuff Teddy said about them, but these twits shows they are just as greedy as the rest within that family.
I swear, was Michael really the only one not motive by money within that family? Pathetic and tragic. Fighting for his uncle's legacy my butt.
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yeah... besides, even that 1/100 is more than enough to see all the exploitation.
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That goes both ways, Taj. I'm sure there are many ways the family is working on selling the children that fans aren't even aware of yet.
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EXCELLENT POST!!! The bolded, you are so right on that one. We are always the ones who clean up the mess made not only by the family, but the media reports as well. This all takes a lot of energy, time, and emotionally drains us, but does Taj care? After all we are just banks where artists come to, to get money for any sloppy product they put out. We should not have feelings, use our analytical skills, and reason--only give out money to buy their products and keep our mouth shut!!! It is not going to happen, ever, and everyone of the Jacksons who intend to use and abuse Michael's name better be aware of it.
My concern, is that I hope no one in the family is telling the kids that the fans are against them. I am referring to that tweet above, from Taj. I do not understand why he placed the kids in the rant.
Certainly Taj must see a difference in the way Katherine raised him and the way she raises Michael kids. Did Katherine use Taj to sell belts, bind him in contracts for life, brought him on TV shows to gain access to the media, use him to sell her book, say publicly that his father is not giving her money, and on and on. So why do it to Michael's kids, then Taj. Your father was part of the Jacksons. If the Jacksons are so special and famous, then she could use you to get money too. Why did she not do it? Why did she not use Michael's kids when he was alive?
Taj started something here and I hope he is strong enough to accept the backlash from fans.
I still don't understand why none of them will work. The Jacksons are NOT the royal family of America in any way, shape, form or fashion. Who cares what Taj thinks? I sure don't. He leeches just like the rest of the Jacksons. I know they miss their cash cow but it would be nice to think that they missed Michael Jackson himself. We, the fans, don't need the Jackson family, but they need us. I believe that the big rush for money is because when Katherine dies, the money ends. I fear they are grooming P,P&B to feel an obligation to continue to financially take care of them. I hope Prince is strong enough, when that day comes, to say "No"...get a job.
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Taj is mad because he is involved in this phoney tribute, and probably getting paid for it too. He is mad that the fans are this close to getting it cancelled.
Poor Taj. He can cry us a river, but we aren't - at least not me - falling for that crap. 'Katherine' is always used as the 'Queen' piece in their game of chess. They pull her name out, with the excuse that 'Michael loved his mother,' to cover up their shady activities, and accuse and make people feel guilty for exposing them.
Please. Katherine is not the only problem here, it is the entire family. Instead of addressing the issues, starting with chief perpetrator in this case, his Aunt, Latoya, he has to pull the 'Katherine' card out to shush the fans.
Message to Taj: Stop playing victim, and find a job. You are in your 30's now, do you expect to live off your uncle and cousins for the rest of your life?
Poor Taj. He can cry us a river, but we aren't - at least not me - falling for that crap. 'Katherine' is always used as the 'Queen' piece in their game of chess. They pull her name out, with the excuse that 'Michael loved his mother,' to cover up their shady activities, and accuse and make people feel guilty for exposing them.
Please. Katherine is not the only problem here, it is the entire family. Instead of addressing the issues, starting with chief perpetrator in this case, his Aunt, Latoya, he has to pull the 'Katherine' card out to shush the fans.
Message to Taj: Stop playing victim, and find a job. You are in your 30's now, do you expect to live off your uncle and cousins for the rest of your life?
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If they are in need of money, all these unemployed people can poll their money and open a grocery store or something that generates a stable income. Then, as a hobby, they could continue with their music. It has been done before. Many people have day jobs and sing at weddings or other venues on the weekend or at night. I really cannot feel sorry for them.
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I agree... I don't agree with everything they do but I wouldn't be on their Twitter pages calling them and their relatives out of their names.. Cause ill be damned if someone I don't know would be on my Twitter page calling my family esp. one of my grandmothers out of her name. Thats wrong and I know that many in here wouldn't appreciate it if somebody did that to them. I don't care what you did or didn't think they did, or if you felt they should have or haven't done something.
Saying it on here us one thing, saying it to them is another. N its very foul!!!
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As one of the few in here, I kinda see where he's coming from.... just saying.
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Sadly, it's clear now that Taj is suffering from the same affliction as the rest of the family. If he goes AGAINST the family/party-line, he won't have any money put into his outstretched hand, should any money actually be made using "Michael's name/image/likeness." Once again, greed wins. I'm sure that's how Michael's parents enforce conformity to what THEY want -- the stick, and the carrot. The stick is that if the extended family were to speak out against their behavior, they would be shunned. The carrot is any potential income that -- maybe -- would be shared, should they cash in on Michael's legacy.
The only ones calling the Jacksons "royalty" are. . . . the Jacksons. Now, it's more like court-jesters, than royalty, and it's become an embarrassment. I think at first almost everyone gave them the benefit of the doubt. Not ANYMORE!
If Taj truly wanted to honor his uncle, he'd be a strong advocate for Michael's CHILDREN, and speak up and say, "This is just, plain, WRONG." But -- he's afflicted just like the rest of them, and he won't.
The only ones calling the Jacksons "royalty" are. . . . the Jacksons. Now, it's more like court-jesters, than royalty, and it's become an embarrassment. I think at first almost everyone gave them the benefit of the doubt. Not ANYMORE!
If Taj truly wanted to honor his uncle, he'd be a strong advocate for Michael's CHILDREN, and speak up and say, "This is just, plain, WRONG." But -- he's afflicted just like the rest of them, and he won't.
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I'd like to know how some of you know that Taj and other members of the family aren't working. Just because you don't see or hear anything about it doesn't mean they aren't.
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Google is your friend. http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1614845/michael-jacksons-family-tree.jhtml And if anyone is inclined, more specific searches are possible.
Almost none of them have done anything since about 1989! Janet is an exception, of course. I believe that Tito has a jazz band that plays at smaller venues, and he's self-supporting. (Also, there is an absolutely terrible history in that family of extra-marital children, and non-payment of child-support. "Royalty," they are NOT.)
I think Taj's last recording with 3 T was released on a Dutch label, in 2004, seven years ago. It wasn't released outside of Europe.
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Michael Jackson's Nephew Taj Attacks "Fans" Over Tribute Concert Critisms
Friday, 02 September 2011 Written by Elliott Batte
Michael Jackson’s nephew Taj Jackson is the latest member of the family to become embroiled in the conflict over the Michael Forever Tribute Concert – this time slamming the irate fans who have labelled his grandmother, Katherine Jackson, as greedy.
Taj (on the left of 3T), real name Toriano Adaryll Jackson II, tweeted an impassioned plea to Jackson fans in the early hours of this morning against his uncle's fans who had made what he saw as personal attacks on members of his family. Clearly unhappy, he messaged and addressed some of his 30,000 Twitter followers and continued to argue with them until he decided to leave – even claiming he deleted some of the fans from his Twitter.
The tweet-tirade kicked-off at around 1:50am this morning, with the message:
“I learned the concept of fans from my uncle [Michael]. Sorry, you cannot call yourself a fan & attack MJ's mother or kids. That is not a fan.”
He received well over 100 re-tweets and replies from fans but, after some irate MJ die-hards disagreed, the tweets began to pour out. You can read the series of messages below.
“A fan can disagree and not like something,” Taj wrote, “but being hateful is not a fan of MJ. It goes against everything he stood for.”
“My uncle LOVED his fans and you guys gave him strength.”
“Maybe I shouldn't use the word "true" fans or "real" fans, I apologize. It just makes me so upset to know what my Grandma goes through.”
“My uncle thought of my Grandma as perfection. He admired her so much. And she loved him unconditionally.”
“Now I read comments like crazy Katherine or Greedy Katherine. or $$$$ Katherine. It is so disappointing.”
“You guys only hear 1/100 of the stuff that goes on around here.”
“I personally had to take a break from the "social" world because everything has been so twisted around.”
“Unfortunately hate and anger makes more noise than LOVE.”
“Sorry.. had to block a few "fans"
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“Guys. You don't have to like me or agree with me. But at least learn the truth about me before you make judgements or call me nasty names.”
“Questioning my loyalty towards MJ. Really?”
“When the first allegations hit. Do you know who were the first people to fly overseas to be with and support MJ.”
Taj then logged off Twitter with the message: “Gotta go guys. LOVE.”
Taj’s old pop group 3T (consisting of him, Taryll Jackson and Tito Joseph Jackson) will be performing at the Michael Forever Tribute Concert, set to take place at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium on Saturday October 8th – and, like the rest of the acts on the bill, the band are expected to be receiving a fee for their appearance.
So, is Taj right to be angered by the way some fans have “attacked” members of his family over the controversial tribute concert? Or are the fans simply thinking of Michael when perhaps certain members of the family aren’t? Tell us what you think in the comment section below.
http://www.stereoboa...t/view/167522/9
Friday, 02 September 2011 Written by Elliott Batte
Michael Jackson’s nephew Taj Jackson is the latest member of the family to become embroiled in the conflict over the Michael Forever Tribute Concert – this time slamming the irate fans who have labelled his grandmother, Katherine Jackson, as greedy.
The tweet-tirade kicked-off at around 1:50am this morning, with the message:
“I learned the concept of fans from my uncle [Michael]. Sorry, you cannot call yourself a fan & attack MJ's mother or kids. That is not a fan.”
He received well over 100 re-tweets and replies from fans but, after some irate MJ die-hards disagreed, the tweets began to pour out. You can read the series of messages below.
“A fan can disagree and not like something,” Taj wrote, “but being hateful is not a fan of MJ. It goes against everything he stood for.”
“My uncle LOVED his fans and you guys gave him strength.”
“Maybe I shouldn't use the word "true" fans or "real" fans, I apologize. It just makes me so upset to know what my Grandma goes through.”
“My uncle thought of my Grandma as perfection. He admired her so much. And she loved him unconditionally.”
“Now I read comments like crazy Katherine or Greedy Katherine. or $$$$ Katherine. It is so disappointing.”
“You guys only hear 1/100 of the stuff that goes on around here.”
“I personally had to take a break from the "social" world because everything has been so twisted around.”
“Unfortunately hate and anger makes more noise than LOVE.”
“Sorry.. had to block a few "fans"
”“Guys. You don't have to like me or agree with me. But at least learn the truth about me before you make judgements or call me nasty names.”
“Questioning my loyalty towards MJ. Really?”
“When the first allegations hit. Do you know who were the first people to fly overseas to be with and support MJ.”
Taj then logged off Twitter with the message: “Gotta go guys. LOVE.”
Taj’s old pop group 3T (consisting of him, Taryll Jackson and Tito Joseph Jackson) will be performing at the Michael Forever Tribute Concert, set to take place at Cardiff's Millennium Stadium on Saturday October 8th – and, like the rest of the acts on the bill, the band are expected to be receiving a fee for their appearance.
So, is Taj right to be angered by the way some fans have “attacked” members of his family over the controversial tribute concert? Or are the fans simply thinking of Michael when perhaps certain members of the family aren’t? Tell us what you think in the comment section below.
http://www.stereoboa...t/view/167522/9
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tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Did not mention the tribute concert once in my tweets yesterday. Got to love headlines like this. stereoboard.com/content/view/1…
tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Not only did I never say I was angry, I used words like upset and disapointed. But they decided for me that I was "angry". Gotta love that
Did not mention the tribute concert once in my tweets yesterday. Got to love headlines like this. stereoboard.com/content/view/1…
tajjackson3 Taj Jackson
Not only did I never say I was angry, I used words like upset and disapointed. But they decided for me that I was "angry". Gotta love that
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I think the Jackson's should leave the business of Michael Jackson to his estate like he specifcally intended. If he had wanted otherwise he would have said so.
And he tells fans we aren't behaving very "Michael like" but since when is lashing out at MJ fans "Michael like"?
People are just so frustrated with them. Why wasn't Taj tweeting this kind of outrage over that horrible Aaron Carter?
Please someone tell me how Michael would have been ok with all of these things regarding his children? From Howard Mann and the fake HTWF to the kids appearing on Oprah, who openly laughed and joked about him to belts and perfume?
This family just needs to pull Katherine and the kids back so Katherine can enjoy her golden years and the kids can be normal teenagers. THAT is what Michael wanted...
P.S When the allegations hit I thought the first one on a plane was ElizabethTaylor?
And he tells fans we aren't behaving very "Michael like" but since when is lashing out at MJ fans "Michael like"?
People are just so frustrated with them. Why wasn't Taj tweeting this kind of outrage over that horrible Aaron Carter?
Please someone tell me how Michael would have been ok with all of these things regarding his children? From Howard Mann and the fake HTWF to the kids appearing on Oprah, who openly laughed and joked about him to belts and perfume?
This family just needs to pull Katherine and the kids back so Katherine can enjoy her golden years and the kids can be normal teenagers. THAT is what Michael wanted...
P.S When the allegations hit I thought the first one on a plane was ElizabethTaylor?
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I think the media, as usual, is blowing Taj's tweets out of proportion. I don't see Taj blameed all of Michael's fans. He didn't have issues with the fanbase. Instead, he called out the people who call his grandma names. He expressed that people don't need to agree with him or like him. But, turning the disappointment into hatred is everything Michael's against. Calling Katherine Jackson names, like Greedy Katherine, Crazy Katherine, Jackson$, is unnecessary and rude. You think Michael like seeing his fans calling his mom all sort of nasty names? (Now, please stop accusing me for playing the "Michael" card. I got that many times. I'm a Michael Jackson fan. I look up to him. I want to mirror my character to his character. If you don't like it, that's fine.)
People here have all the right reasons to be concerned. And, our concerns are valid. We feel frustrated. We want our voice be heard. But, that doesn't give people's right to go to the Jacksons' twitter accounts and leave disrespectful posts. We can criticize, but when the criticism is borderline personal attack. Then, our concerns are invalidated and our voice is minimized. It's not who shouts the loudest that are heard. It's the people who are able to express their disappointments and concerns eloquently and respectfully that are heard.
And, don't forget that we all are seeing things from the outside. We think we know a lot about the family. The truth is we do not. Unless we live in that household, spend time with them, talk to them, we do not get a complete picture of the family dynamic. I understand Michael is dear in our hearts. But, to the children, to his mother, we are all strangers. What would you think a total stranger (or, a not so closed friend) criticize your mother publicly?
I do not agree with the Jacksons' business decisions. At the same time, I find the some of fans' sarcastic remarks on the Jacksons irrational.
Instead of focusing our energy on bashing the Jacksons, is it more constructive to focus our efforts on the real predators who aimed to destroy Michael, like Diane Dimon, and the media in general?
People here have all the right reasons to be concerned. And, our concerns are valid. We feel frustrated. We want our voice be heard. But, that doesn't give people's right to go to the Jacksons' twitter accounts and leave disrespectful posts. We can criticize, but when the criticism is borderline personal attack. Then, our concerns are invalidated and our voice is minimized. It's not who shouts the loudest that are heard. It's the people who are able to express their disappointments and concerns eloquently and respectfully that are heard.
And, don't forget that we all are seeing things from the outside. We think we know a lot about the family. The truth is we do not. Unless we live in that household, spend time with them, talk to them, we do not get a complete picture of the family dynamic. I understand Michael is dear in our hearts. But, to the children, to his mother, we are all strangers. What would you think a total stranger (or, a not so closed friend) criticize your mother publicly?
I do not agree with the Jacksons' business decisions. At the same time, I find the some of fans' sarcastic remarks on the Jacksons irrational.
Instead of focusing our energy on bashing the Jacksons, is it more constructive to focus our efforts on the real predators who aimed to destroy Michael, like Diane Dimon, and the media in general?
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Well, it's not possible to know that? It's also possible that he might feel VINDICATED for having so LITTLE to do with his family in recent years? How would he FEEL, in seeing Paris holding up a bottle of the perfume Joseph was hawking, and how would he FEEL knowing that his family was going against his wishes in countering the Estate with the tribute concert? The executors made their sentiments about this concert entirely clear! He might feel that the fans still have his back, when the family no longer seems to care about anything but using his own children to help advertise their money-making schemes?
We can't know for sure how Michael would feel, but at this point, we can give a pretty good guess!
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Yes, I can give a pretty good guess. I know for sure Michael would not like seeing his children in the spotlights. I know for sure that Michael would not like the way the concert is being organized. I also know for sure that Michael would never ever endorse the angry tweets some are sending to his family. I know for sure that Michael would not like to see his own fans calling his own mother all sort of nasty names.
So, just because we don't like seeing Paris holding a wacky perfume does not justify the insults some are throwing to Michael's mother. We cannot control or influence the Jackson's behavior. We have absolutely no say in how the children are being raised. The only thing we can do is to voice our concerns in a reasonable manner.
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Yeah, I already know they haven't released music in some time but that still does NOT mean that they aren't working. They can have jobs that have nothing to do with the music business.
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Hello,
I Came to give my two pence worth.
In my humble opinion, if anyone was callous enough to go @tajjackson3 and bemoan the Jackson family, downright insult Katherine Jackson, then they should be ashamed of themselves.
Katherine Jackson is an 80 something old woman, a mother, grandmother, sister, aunt and whether we like it or not, is now the legal guardian of Michael Jackson's three precious children. Have some RESPECT people. Have a little decency.
What are you doing hurling insults at nephews on Twitter? And, How the devil do you know that Taj Jackson and his 2 other siblings are 'living off their uncle'? have you checked their bank accounts? No.
Yes, I am well aware of all the shananiganism by Randy Jackson,Jermaine Jackson and the crusty things Joe Jackson continues to on a daily basis. Swindling fan money with 'fake' websites, lame reality shows to signing dubious contracts for shows that never come to fruition. But, there are ways to make ourselves be heard as a community? Like the petition the Fanclubs signed to halt the tribute concert. Great stuff. Was very proud of the way we used our collective voices to make a stand.
But, surely being so spiteful to Michael's family members on Twitter needs to stop. Shameful.
I pray and hope that some fans don't take it upon themselves to contact Paris Jackson on Twitter... I know there were similar suggestions in another thread to 'inform' this 13 year old kid about her grandmother, the closest family she has. If that thought ever crossed your mind I beg of you PLEASE DO NOT.
I have found the all this to be rather embarrassing...in a collective fan sense. I have every confidence that we can discuss and direct our views in more appropriate and dignified manner.
Thank You for taking the time to read my post.
I Came to give my two pence worth.
In my humble opinion, if anyone was callous enough to go @tajjackson3 and bemoan the Jackson family, downright insult Katherine Jackson, then they should be ashamed of themselves.
Katherine Jackson is an 80 something old woman, a mother, grandmother, sister, aunt and whether we like it or not, is now the legal guardian of Michael Jackson's three precious children. Have some RESPECT people. Have a little decency.
What are you doing hurling insults at nephews on Twitter? And, How the devil do you know that Taj Jackson and his 2 other siblings are 'living off their uncle'? have you checked their bank accounts? No.
Yes, I am well aware of all the shananiganism by Randy Jackson,Jermaine Jackson and the crusty things Joe Jackson continues to on a daily basis. Swindling fan money with 'fake' websites, lame reality shows to signing dubious contracts for shows that never come to fruition. But, there are ways to make ourselves be heard as a community? Like the petition the Fanclubs signed to halt the tribute concert. Great stuff. Was very proud of the way we used our collective voices to make a stand.
But, surely being so spiteful to Michael's family members on Twitter needs to stop. Shameful.
I pray and hope that some fans don't take it upon themselves to contact Paris Jackson on Twitter... I know there were similar suggestions in another thread to 'inform' this 13 year old kid about her grandmother, the closest family she has. If that thought ever crossed your mind I beg of you PLEASE DO NOT.
I have found the all this to be rather embarrassing...in a collective fan sense. I have every confidence that we can discuss and direct our views in more appropriate and dignified manner.
Thank You for taking the time to read my post.
Autumn II
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I hope that in any critiques of the Jackson family, everyone will be respectful. It's one thing to have criticism, and quite another to be insulting or name-calling. It's quite possible to register a complaint without resorting to that. It's befitting Michael's memory and legacy that we exercise both self-control, and concern.
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Paris may already have a smidget of an idea of what's being said....as I noticed she retweeted one of Tajs tweets.
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Totally agree with you. Especially the bold
Im not okay what the Jacksons are doing either but fans go too far sometimes.
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I agree that we shouldn't be bombarding the Jacksons twitter pages with tweets insulting Katherine. I can understand where Taj is coming from in a sense. That's his grandmother, and naturally, he's going to get defensive when she is attacked. I think the problem is, some of us believing in the notion that being insulting and loud will make people hear us better. They don't. They just block you out. I've learned that too.
I wonder if one of Michael's friends had passed, and left their children to him, would he go around doing publicity rounds with their children, while keeping his own children protected? Would he do so knowing that his friend wanted his children to live happy and normal lives? Would he be okay with people from his family going on tv talking about how happy and normal those kids have been since living with Michael and how they're so much better off with their parents dead? How would you feel if Michael did that? I'll admit that I'd be disappointed in him. I'll admit that I'd be shocked, and I'd probably criticise him for it too, just like I am with Katherine, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't still love him. That doesn't mean I'd come to feel hatred him. I don't hate Katherine. I'm disappointed in her, but I don't hate her. There's a difference, but there's close to no defense for what she's been doing and you can't defend it.
We can sit back and put on rose-coloured glasses and pretend that what we're seeing isn't really happening but what will that do? The only way we can be considered "real" and "true" fans in Taj's eyes is to deny and close our eyes to what's "real" and "true"? To sit back in ignorant bliss and continue to work as ATM machines and hand over our money? I think most of us are over that stage. It's at the point now where the Jacksons are doing things that we just can't close our eyes to. No matter how hard we try. Those who have attempted to remain loyal to them have been limited in their defense, coming up with nothing more than "they are Michael's family, he loved them, so leave them alone. You should feel shame and guilt for hating them." Not much of an argument when you have a thread full of fans discussing the amount of times they've used him for their own gain, used his children for their own gain, made statements that would be used in trial against Michael, and said that Joe and they are the estate and are therefore entitled to Michael's wealth. They also feel entitled to us, Michael's fans. Michael may have loved them, but I'd think he'd be pretty disappointed in their actions since his death. I believe that what they're doing goes against everything he stood for.
I wonder if one of Michael's friends had passed, and left their children to him, would he go around doing publicity rounds with their children, while keeping his own children protected? Would he do so knowing that his friend wanted his children to live happy and normal lives? Would he be okay with people from his family going on tv talking about how happy and normal those kids have been since living with Michael and how they're so much better off with their parents dead? How would you feel if Michael did that? I'll admit that I'd be disappointed in him. I'll admit that I'd be shocked, and I'd probably criticise him for it too, just like I am with Katherine, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't still love him. That doesn't mean I'd come to feel hatred him. I don't hate Katherine. I'm disappointed in her, but I don't hate her. There's a difference, but there's close to no defense for what she's been doing and you can't defend it.
We can sit back and put on rose-coloured glasses and pretend that what we're seeing isn't really happening but what will that do? The only way we can be considered "real" and "true" fans in Taj's eyes is to deny and close our eyes to what's "real" and "true"? To sit back in ignorant bliss and continue to work as ATM machines and hand over our money? I think most of us are over that stage. It's at the point now where the Jacksons are doing things that we just can't close our eyes to. No matter how hard we try. Those who have attempted to remain loyal to them have been limited in their defense, coming up with nothing more than "they are Michael's family, he loved them, so leave them alone. You should feel shame and guilt for hating them." Not much of an argument when you have a thread full of fans discussing the amount of times they've used him for their own gain, used his children for their own gain, made statements that would be used in trial against Michael, and said that Joe and they are the estate and are therefore entitled to Michael's wealth. They also feel entitled to us, Michael's fans. Michael may have loved them, but I'd think he'd be pretty disappointed in their actions since his death. I believe that what they're doing goes against everything he stood for.
Mirabella76
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I really don't think Taj is that person who anybody shoud listen. He is blab. But if he mentioned people who really offended Katherine and kids, he's right. Even though their meaning is true, such way of phrasing is not estimable. IMO
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