Spike Lee BAD 25 Documentary- DVD / Blu Ray [available on iTunes Nov 19]

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Was the U.S. the only country where the documentary was shown as an edited version on television?

Will fans outside of the U.S., who have seen the two hour documentary, still have an incentive to purchase?
 
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I'm not sure about other version released on TV but yes was edited for ABC network (USA) to fit the time slot allotted.

Yes the full documentary will be released worldwide in July

I told you there will be no big promotion and whatsoever....

I think it may be because BAD 25 didn't reach the success level they hoped for

Mkgenie- Yes I believe this was because the fans didn't support BAD25 as they had hoped. After the low sales projection, I think they postponed the Documentary so it wouldn't t compete with BAd 25 at that time. They are releasing it now but Estate can't afford to put anymore money into this project. I think they are just testing the fan market right now to see how well it does. If fans continue not to support the projects it will only get worse. They made a huge effort for the fans with BAD25 .. I don't think we will see the likes of that again. We can't blame them. They can't lose money on these projects.

Immortal and MJ ONE are being supported by the fans and general public and doing great. They are very profitable for Michael's Estate. So they will now probably release what appeases to the masses who will appreciate and no more special projects just to try and appease ungrateful fans who don't appreciate. I spoke of this when fans were bashing BAD 25 for the most ridiculous reasons and saying they were not purchasing it. But yet the same ones were requesting illegal downloads (imagine that) I told them them their non support of this project would affect future releases. So now those who do appreciate have to also suffer because of it. Im sure We will probably get an album period. but certainly no more goodies or extras DVDs or special packaging that many fans enjoy collecting.
 
Re: Spike Lee BAD 25 Documentary will be released in July- Available For Pre Order

I don't think the fans are the reason for low sales of Bad 25. Most of them even bought more than one item.

The reason was most likely the lack of any promotion. So please don't blame the fans.
 
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Mkgenie- Yes I believe this was because the fans didn't support BAD25 as they had hoped.

I think fans supported it but Estate's sale expectations were too high.
 
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Yeah blaming the fans is ridiculous. I know a LOT of people who bought that frankly ridiculously priced collectors box.

The fans alone can't generate the big numbers these guys want. It's the general public. And in the UK there was absolutely no promotion for Bad 25. People just didn't know it was available. As I said before, the Estate had that documentary which was their biggest promotional tool and what did they do, they released it quietly to television about a month after the Bad 25 campaign was dead in the water. Timing is the key. Also releasing a good song to radio or making a video that attracts attention would have been a nice idea. It's marketing, man. These guys should know what they are doing. Don't Be Messin' Round was released to radio but it's such a non-entity that track. It's pleasant enough but it's the most unfinished song and arguably the weakest on the set.

I didn't support the Michael album because doing so defiled the name of my hero, in my opinion. However despite the obvious weaknesses of Bad 25, I did purchase that. I also bought the picture disc vinyl and the IJCSLY singles. Blaming fans for the Estate's shortcomings is just in bad taste. Sure there is a small minority who have held a grudge (I don't blame them) but most of us are accepting of these products.
 
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Well, there's only so many times people will rebuy the same product. Perhaps if the movie came in with the rest of the Bad 25 releases it'd help.
 
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Its not us fans fault they should haved done more bigger promotion for it like have it shown in cinemas worldwide
 
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Well, it looks like i'm just gonna purchase the DVD from the official site & just enjoy the extra 1 hour that i've not seen, for what it is! And like an old saying that my mom is known for: "It is what it is."
And my thinking is I will probably make the gift card that i will be purchasing it with probably to be around maybe $25, just to make sure to have enough money for the DVD purchase, even though it's only close to $15, which i'm sure will include a little tax
 
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We all should support it and spam the hell out of out friends and promo it everywhere to get people to buy it.

If this sells well on their site, maybe they'll reconsider future things (or even out this in stores).

At the very least, they should put it on Amazon as well...
 
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can we ad a poll here with the quistion if you buy it or not?? i always wan't to know how much people buy things:D
 
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OK, so will it be available on Amazon or not?
 
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Yeah blaming the fans is ridiculous. I know a LOT of people who bought that frankly ridiculously priced collectors box.

The fans alone can't generate the big numbers these guys want. It's the general public. And in the UK there was absolutely no promotion for Bad 25. People just didn't know it was available. As I said before, the Estate had that documentary which was their biggest promotional tool and what did they do, they released it quietly to television about a month after the Bad 25 campaign was dead in the water. Timing is the key. Also releasing a good song to radio or making a video that attracts attention would have been a nice idea. It's marketing, man. These guys should know what they are doing. Don't Be Messin' Round was released to radio but it's such a non-entity that track. It's pleasant enough but it's the most unfinished song and arguably the weakest on the set.

I didn't support the Michael album because doing so defiled the name of my hero, in my opinion. However despite the obvious weaknesses of Bad 25, I did purchase that. I also bought the picture disc vinyl and the IJCSLY singles. Blaming fans for the Estate's shortcomings is just in bad taste. Sure there is a small minority who have held a grudge (I don't blame them) but most of us are accepting of these products.

As far as I know, the Estate wanted to use the doc as tool before BAD 25 came out and would like to put the DVD out inside the boxset. However , it was SONY's decision to release documentary and CD boxset separately. I don't know why and it didn't work.
 
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Maybe this document was never meant to be a seller, maybe the estate wanted to put the focus on Michael's artistry and his talent. That side of the Michael has been missing for a while and "Michael the tabloid king" had taken over, so maybe they just wanted to bring out the Michael that made him what he was, extremely talented musician and artist. Spike Lee's document showed that Michael and put to focus on where it belongs to.
 
Re: Spike Lee BAD 25 Documentary will be released in July- Available For Pre Order

Bad 25 was a fantastic project that suffered from a total ignorance of promotion in the United States. I saw an ad for the box set before a YouTube video once; the Pepsi cans were difficult to locate; the I Just Can't Stop Loving You single was in short supply; the Ne-Yo endorsed Pepsi concert came and went without much coverage; and stores seemed generally unhyped by the project as a whole. The Spike Lee documentary did get intense coverage on TV but the idea of broadcasting it on Thanksgiving, a night when most Americans decide to watch football, was a bad one. I'm not necessarily a genius when it comes to who is in charge of promoting a product, but common sense would say that it's up to Sony. If they want to make any money back from their 2010 contract they need to start putting their backs into this.

I wouldn't call Bad 25 a low seller. There are many anniversary compilations and greatest hits box sets that fail to make any kind of impact on the charts. The standard edition did peak at 24, and overseas it reached the top ten in at least 12 countries. I just think that the estate and fans recognized Thriller 25's sales of three million copies and expected those kinds of sales. Unfortunately it was just a pipe dream, although Bad 25 is ten times better than Thriller 25 and, in my opinion, deserves more recognition that it's getting.
 
Re: Spike Lee BAD 25 Documentary will be released in July- Available For Pre Order

Bad 25 was a fantastic project that suffered from a total ignorance of promotion in the United States. I saw an ad for the box set before a YouTube video once; the Pepsi cans were difficult to locate; the I Just Can't Stop Loving You single was in short supply; the Ne-Yo endorsed Pepsi concert came and went without much coverage; and stores seemed generally unhyped by the project as a whole. The Spike Lee documentary did get intense coverage on TV but the idea of broadcasting it on Thanksgiving, a night when most Americans decide to watch football, was a bad one. I'm not necessarily a genius when it comes to who is in charge of promoting a product, but common sense would say that it's up to Sony. If they want to make any money back from their 2010 contract they need to start putting their backs into this.

I wouldn't call Bad 25 a low seller. There are many anniversary compilations and greatest hits box sets that fail to make any kind of impact on the charts. The standard edition did peak at 24, and overseas it reached the top ten in at least 12 countries. I just think that the estate and fans recognized Thriller 25's sales of three million copies and expected those kinds of sales. Unfortunately it was just a pipe dream, although Bad 25 is ten times better than Thriller 25 and, in my opinion, deserves more recognition that it's getting.

Bad25 was for fans not for everyone. It is great an I enjoy it all the time, the music anyways. The concert not so much shity quality period. It the sound on the DVD was true 5.1 I could have dealt with the picture quality.
 
Spike Lee will pay a visit to the Whitney Humanities Center at Yale University on Sunday, June 16, 2013, for a talk following a free screening of his Michael Jackson documentary “Bad 25.” The screening of Bad 25 will begin at 12:00 and the Q &A with Spike Lee will begin at 2:30. The Whitney Humanities Center is located at 53 Wall Street, New Haven, CT. This event is presented in association with the Yale Summer Film Institute. No ticket is required.

Bad 25 is a portrait of Michael Jackson working on his solo album Bad, released in 1987. The film includes behind the scenes clips of the recording session and features various people that had worked with Jackson during the period.

http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/2013-Arts-and-Ideas-festival-gets-underway-in-New-4593830.php

http://www.yale.edu/whc/main.html

http://artidea.org/event/2013/1329
 
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The LIVE album should have a stand-alone release!

AND The Live concert at Wembley should have had more promotion. - And a real DVD case, not the slime little package available.

BAD25 was a FANTASTIC release! I love the live album and hear it all the time - but I am not even sure it is available on iTunes?
 
MJJsBADEraLady87;3843055 said:
Just saw this very post on Twitter:

NEWS ...BAD 25 DVD

"For fans asking about the availability of the Bad25 documentary on DVD or Blu-ray - while there are no plans for a general retail release, the Estate did want to ensure that all fans had the opportunity to see the full-length theatrical version that debuted at the Venice Film Festival. To accomplish this, the Estate decided to make the physical DVD and Blu-ray of the full-length version available for purchase online for fans at MichaelJackson.com."

MJOnline
The Official Online Team of The Michael Jackson Estate™

It is not on the timeline. Was it deleted?
 
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I think the promo for the album was just fine, actually.
I mean, at the end of the day, this was a re-release of an old album. It's not going to be groundbreaking.

And while a lot of fans who were following the news were disappointed in the video quality and choice of the show used, the general public were probably oblivious to that. They probably just saw that a new live DVD of MJ was out on shelves (for those who think it didn't sell well because it wasn't u-matic sourced or based on film reels).

The Pepsi campaign alone was pretty nice, too, and probably pushed alot of awareness.

If I were to change one thing, it would be the hot mess of that live DVD. Me buying it was making the best of a bad situation. It's all they put out, so I guess I'll take it.
 
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The LIVE album should have a stand-alone release!

AND The Live concert at Wembley should have had more promotion. - And a real DVD case, not the slime little package available.

BAD25 was a FANTASTIC release! I love the live album and hear it all the time - but I am not even sure it is available on iTunes?

I just ripped the audio from the DVD myself.
The iTunes/Amazon version at the very least should have been the full show.
But it would have cost more to make it 2 cd's and stick it in the deluxe edition.

I had to do the same thing with my Madonna Confessions Tour dvd/cd. The CD only had half the shows setlist on it (rather than abbreviated versions of all songs).
 
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Of course it will be in stores once it is released in July.. Why wouldn't it be ?
I think some deliberately try to sabotage releases from the Estate with these unsourced unfounded rumours. This is just an announcement of the release with a presale - I'm quite certain full info will come with the release in July if not before. No one is forcing anyone to buy it now. They are not going to run out of DVD's .... SO there will be plenty of time for the complainers to buy it and begin nitpicking, bashing and and tearing Spikes Lees Doc to pieces (Just as they did BAd 25) once it is released. I know some are in a pathetic hurry to do so but they just got to be patient like the rest who will appreciate the love and work Spike Lee put into it. .

They were right all along.
 
Paris78;3843628 said:
Spike Lee will pay a visit to the Whitney Humanities Center at Yale University on Sunday, June 16, 2013, for a talk following a free screening of his Michael Jackson documentary “Bad 25.”

The screening of Bad 25 will begin at 12:00 and the Q &A with Spike Lee will begin at 2:30.

The Whitney Humanities Center is located at 53 Wall Street, New Haven, CT. This event is presented in association with the Yale Summer Film Institute. No ticket is required.

Bad 25 is a portrait of Michael Jackson working on his solo album Bad, released in 1987. The film includes behind the scenes clips of the recording session and features various people that had worked with Jackson during the period.

http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/2013-Arts-and-Ideas-festival-gets-underway-in-New-4593830.php

http://www.yale.edu/whc/main.html

http://artidea.org/event/2013/1329

Thank that's Great :)Spike will present Michael's work at Yale (Free admission)
 
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Wait this is not on Amazon and can only be bought from the official playdirect site?
 
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I think that you can buy it with your Amazon account through the MJ site, but not actually on Amazons site...I think?
 
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I think that you can buy it with your Amazon account through the MJ site, but not actually on Amazons site...I think?

Kinda sounds a bit confusing to me, to tell ya the truth really
 
Re: Spike Lee BAD 25 Documentary will be released in July- Available For Pre Order

Its not confusing on MichaelJackson.com - There is a link where you can order the Documentary through your Amazon account. It will still be shipped by play direct.
 
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I think the promo for the album was just fine, actually.
I mean, at the end of the day, this was a re-release of an old album. It's not going to be groundbreaking.

Well Paul Simon's Graceland 25 hit shelves the month prior to Bad 25 and made a significantly better chart impact in the United Kingdom than Bad 25 did. Of course, whomever was in charge of that project managed to get the associated documentary timed as such that it made an impact and the two cross-promoted each other well.

Also, I do believe Thriller 25 was a success story. Yes, there's many different reasons as to why this was the case. But the bottom line is, Bad 25 did not reach it's potential, re-release of an old album or not.
 
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YEEAAHH!!! - Just pre-ordered the doc on Bluray!! Can't wait for it to arrive!!

[h=2]Congrats, thanks for your order.[/h]Please see the status for each of your items below.

BAD 25 Documentary (Blu-ray)Premium Product1Pre-orderEstimated Delivery: July 2, 2013 to July 10, 2013
Ships from United States
Taxes & Duties may be due upon delivery


Hope it will arrive on July 2nd!! - but July 10th is OK! :)
 
Re: Spike Lee BAD 25 Documentary will be released in July- Available For Pre Order

YEEAAHH!!! - Just pre-ordered the doc on Bluray!! Can't wait for it to arrive!!

Congrats, thanks for your order.

Please see the status for each of your items below.

BAD 25 Documentary (Blu-ray)Premium Product1Pre-orderEstimated Delivery: July 2, 2013 to July 10, 2013
Ships from United States
Taxes & Duties may be due upon delivery


Hope it will arrive on July 2nd!! - but July 10th is OK! :)
does Denmark charge you taxes and duties on items shipped from USA ?
If so does you postman collect the tax and duties when they deliver or do you have to go to post office ?
 
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