Spike Lee BAD 25 Documentary- DVD / Blu Ray [available on iTunes Nov 19]

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Excepting for JB, it seems it's gonna be great! :thumbs_up:

I just hope Spike didn't include QJ that much (unless it's footage with Mike by his side,) I'm not really interested to hear from him knowing al the :bs: he's said about Michael in recent years...
 
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but I simply don't think these stars might give us valuable information on BAD.

I totally agree with u cuz most of these stars that are in the documentary are too young to even know much bout the bad era. I would prefer it if the ppl who were around/involved with bad album/bad era to be in the documentary as that would make more sense
 
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This knocked me off of my feet .. Can't wait to see more
 
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Me too. And I completely loved that "frozen crew" story because you can even transfer that to normal people watching MJ on a screen.

I remember once I went to a conference and before everything starts, while people get in their seats and talk to each other the projector screen showed every kind of famous music videos and nobody really paid attention to them but suddenly a few MJ short films appeared and I swear when that happened everyone and I mean everyone! seated to watch in silence the short films lol.

That's the power of MJ, he never fails to amaze me :happy:
 
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I totally agree with u cuz most of these stars that are in the documentary are too young to even know much bout the bad era. I would prefer it if the ppl who were around/involved with bad album/bad era to be in the documentary as that would make more sense

Yeah totally my point, thanks for understanding what I was trying to express. :kickass:
 
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so exciting can't wait we will be blown away !
 
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yes Tatiana was interviewed, here is her on the set with Kanye West
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She looks good :D :naughty:
 
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Sky Arts in the UK could want it, and bid the highest...


I hope not. It would be bad enough if Sky One bought it.
I would prefer it to be on mainstream TV with maximum possible number of viewers. Sky Arts would be lucky to pull in more than a few hundred thousand viewers, but BBC1 or ITV1 could probably draw more than 5million. There's no contest.
I'm sure Sony and the estate will prefer to sell to BBC 1/ITV 1 and if they have any sense they'll sell to them even if their bid is lower than Sky Arts because the exposure MJ will get will be much bigger.
Anyway we'll see what happens.



BTW with reference to a previous post of mine, another reason why JB, CB etc are good for this documentary is quite simply because they appeal to a younger demographic. The MJ Estate know that they need to sustain MJ's legacy and appeal. The best way to do that is to propogate it down to the younger generation. Generally speaking those young fans probably wouldn't be interested in watching a documentary about MJ and the old guys who worked with him in the 1980s - they're too young to care about that stuff, it's ancient history to them. Not only do CB, JB etc demonstrate MJ's ongoing appeal to young stars of today, but also their fans will be interested to watch the show and will hopefully be influenced to like MJ's music (assuming they don't already). It would be a bad move not to include current stars IMO.
I would also like people like Usher, Justin Timberlake, Snoop Dogg, Beyonce, NeYo, and Will.i.am to be included. They're all well respected international stars that were influenced by MJ. From the late 90s until his death MJ was dismissed by many people as a 'has-been' and 'irrelevant', despite massive MJ-influenced acts like Beyonce, JT, Usher dominating the charts, but it's hard to justify that opinion when these guys are on TV saying MJ was the king.
 
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I hope not. It would be bad enough if Sky One bought it.
I would prefer it to be on mainstream TV with maximum possible number of viewers. Sky Arts would be lucky to pull in more than a few hundred thousand viewers, but BBC1 or ITV1 could probably draw more than 5million. There's no contest.
I'm sure Sony and the estate will prefer to sell to BBC 1/ITV 1 and if they have any sense they'll sell to them even if their bid is lower than Sky Arts because the exposure MJ will get will be much bigger.
Anyway we'll see what happens.



BTW with reference to a previous post of mine, another reason why JB, CB etc are good for this documentary is quite simply because they appeal to a younger demographic. The MJ Estate know that they need to sustain MJ's legacy and appeal. The best way to do that is to propogate it down to the younger generation. Generally speaking those young fans probably wouldn't be interested in watching a documentary about MJ and the old guys who worked with him in the 1980s - they're too young to care about that stuff, it's ancient history to them. Not only do CB, JB etc demonstrate MJ's ongoing appeal to young stars of today, but also their fans will be interested to watch the show and will hopefully be influenced to like MJ's music (assuming they don't already). It would be a bad move not to include current stars IMO.
I would also like people like Usher, Justin Timberlake, Snoop Dogg, Beyonce, NeYo, and Will.i.am to be included. They're all well respected international stars that were influenced by MJ. From the late 90s until his death MJ was dismissed by many people as a 'has-been' and 'irrelevant', despite massive MJ-influenced acts like Beyonce, JT, Usher dominating the charts, but it's hard to justify that opinion when these guys are on TV saying MJ was the king.


I agree. I don't mind Justin Bieber or Chris Brown saying a few sentences in it. Do I like their music? No. But that's besides the point. It's a fact that many people were inspired by MJ and if the younger generation first meets MJ through their fandom of JB or CB then so be it.
 
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how exciting!!! the new angle got me for a second! i thought it was an outtake and then i realised it was just a new angle but in mike's words "OH BOY!"
 
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I agree. I don't mind Justin Bieber or Chris Brown saying a few sentences in it. Do I like their music? No. But that's besides the point. It's a fact that many people were inspired by MJ and if the younger generation first meets MJ through their fandom of JB or CB then so be it.


I'm glad somebody understands where I'm coming from.
I know this strategy works because I became a fan of James Brown through MJ's appreciation of his work.
Without Mj's influence I would have dismissed JB, just as I did with many other excellent artists who were 'before my time'.
Sony need to keep making money off MJ for the forseeable future and so attracting a new younger audience makes sense. The Estate can't rely on the existing fan base because that will only diminish over time.
 
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I'm glad somebody understands where I'm coming from.
I know this strategy works because I became a fan of James Brown through MJ's appreciation of his work.
Without Mj's influence I would have dismissed JB, just as I did with many other excellent artists who were 'before my time'.
Sony need to keep making money off MJ for the forseeable future and so attracting a new younger audience makes sense. The Estate can't rely on the existing fan base because that will only diminish over time.

Yeah, I agree. I became a fan of soul and R&B music in general because of MJ. In my country (in Europe) people usually like rock and pop. R&B is generally much, much less popular than in the US. Perhaps not so much these days when some R&B artists became mainstream here as well, but when I started to listen to those American soul and R&B artists as a kid, I was alone with my fandom of that type of music in my class in the school or among my friends. Everyone else were fans of Nirvana, Guns'n'Roses or whichever rock band was hot at the moment. I like those too. But I'm grateful that through MJ and because I wanted to understand his musical roots, I had a much wider view on music than my peers. And through MJ I learnt about some really great old-timers.

It can happen with fans of current artists regarding MJ. When I was a kid at least MTV still played music and there were also programs on it which specialized in showing older/classic videos. Two hours every day. But now kids don't even have that. So they may only want to look up MJ on YouTube if their favorite current artist mentions him as an influence.
 
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Maybe certain people were not around when Bad came out but they can hear the music and see the work from it and show appreciation and inspiration from it. i want fans of Michael to grow. Look at little kids that can't even talk yet but dance to Michael's music. I see a lot of cute videos on youtube lol. There are going to be artists in the future and I think it would be great to see someone 10, 20 or more years from now say that Michael was an inspiration to them. That would be the ultimate compliment to Michael because he worked so hard and wanted his work to last forever. If people can see how great Michael was as a person too that would be more great. I understand the concern though and I hope it all turns out great in the end.
 
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I hope not. It would be bad enough if Sky One bought it.
I would prefer it to be on mainstream TV with maximum possible number of viewers. Sky Arts would be lucky to pull in more than a few hundred thousand viewers, but BBC1 or ITV1 could probably draw more than 5million. There's no contest.
I'm sure Sony and the estate will prefer to sell to BBC 1/ITV 1 and if they have any sense they'll sell to them even if their bid is lower than Sky Arts because the exposure MJ will get will be much bigger.
Anyway we'll see what happens.



BTW with reference to a previous post of mine, another reason why JB, CB etc are good for this documentary is quite simply because they appeal to a younger demographic. The MJ Estate know that they need to sustain MJ's legacy and appeal. The best way to do that is to propogate it down to the younger generation. Generally speaking those young fans probably wouldn't be interested in watching a documentary about MJ and the old guys who worked with him in the 1980s - they're too young to care about that stuff, it's ancient history to them. Not only do CB, JB etc demonstrate MJ's ongoing appeal to young stars of today, but also their fans will be interested to watch the show and will hopefully be influenced to like MJ's music (assuming they don't already). It would be a bad move not to include current stars IMO.
I would also like people like Usher, Justin Timberlake, Snoop Dogg, Beyonce, NeYo, and Will.i.am to be included. They're all well respected international stars that were influenced by MJ. From the late 90s until his death MJ was dismissed by many people as a 'has-been' and 'irrelevant', despite massive MJ-influenced acts like Beyonce, JT, Usher dominating the charts, but it's hard to justify that opinion when these guys are on TV saying MJ was the king.

Spot on! MJ was the King Of Pop-ular! People are making waaaaaay to much of fans like JB and CB appearing on this. They'll be on it for what? 3, 4 minutes? Their's over 40 people interviewed and all asspects of Bad and it's legacy are covered. It's all good, and yes BBC1 or ITV for sure! Good points!
 
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Maybe I missed it, but is there a date for when this will be aired?

It would be great to have this on Bluray too :D
 
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They said that over 40 people will be in the documentary. For now we know:

Spike Lee himself confirmed: Bruce Swedien, Greg Phillinganes, Siedah Garrett, Glen Ballard, Steve Stevens, Wesley Snipes, Jeffrey Daniel, Stevie Wonder, Questlove, Chris Brown, Kanye West, Justin Bieber, Mariah Carey

Richard Lecocq from mjdatabank confirmed: Walter Yetnikoff, Larry Stessel, John Robinson, Ollie E. Brown, Jim Blashfield

Michael Jackson's Estate confirmed in the announcement: Cee Lo Green, Sheryl Crow, Martin Scorcese, Joe Pytka, Matt Forger, Vincent Paterson

billyworld99 confirmed here in this thread: Tatianna Thumbtzen

Update

spin.com confirmed: L.A. Reid
 
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I know a lot of us don't much care for Quincy Jones anymore, but I'd be surprised if he wasn't interviewed for this in some way.
 
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I know a lot of us don't much care for Quincy Jones anymore, but I'd be surprised if he wasn't interviewed for this in some way.

I think he was interviewed but I think there is no confirmation yet.
 
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They said that over 40 people will be in the documentary. For now we know:

Spike Lee himself confirmed: Bruce Swedien, Greg Phillinganes, Siedah Garrett, Glen Ballard, Steve Stevens, Wesley Snipes, Jeffrey Daniel, Stevie Wonder, Questlove, Chris Brown, Kanye West, Justin Bieber, Mariah Carey

Richard Lecocq from mjdatabank confirmed: Walter Yetnikoff, Larry Stessel, John Robinson, Ollie E. Brown, Jim Blashfield

Michael Jackson's Estate confirmed in the announcement: Cee Lo Green, Sheryl Crow, Martin Scorcese, Joe Pytka, Matt Forger, Vincent Paterson

billyworld99 confirmed here in this thread: Tatianna Thumbtzen

I know a lot of us don't much care for Quincy Jones anymore, but I'd be surprised if he wasn't interviewed for this in some way.

I'd gladly trade QJ over JB anytime, out of all the people confirmed I'm Ok with all of them except the latter, despite the interest it might arouse, let's remember that his fan base is still conformed of pre-adolescent girls and as much as they might appreciate MJ's music, we have to consider that his fans have unconsciously accused legendary artists of ... "copying" JB. I wouldn't want people with that kind of narrow mind to follow Michael just because their idol likes him.
 
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Maybe I missed it, but is there a date for when this will be aired?
No exact date so far.

And through MJ I learnt about some really great old-timers.
It can happen with fans of current artists regarding MJ.

I agree.
I guess this is the way we have to think from now on :/
 
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I'd gladly trade QJ over JB anytime, out of all the people confirmed I'm Ok with all of them except the latter, despite the interest it might arouse, let's remember that his fan base is still conformed of pre-adolescent girls and as much as they might appreciate MJ's music, we have to consider that his fans have unconsciously accused legendary artists of ... "copying" JB. I wouldn't want people with that kind of narrow mind to follow Michael just because their idol likes him.


I hate JB's music as well but are you really interested to hear from a man who backstabbed Michael saying bs about his skin disease and his own children (when he was alive)? I'm not to be honest...
 
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I hate JB's music as well but are you really interested to hear from a man who backstabbed Michael saying bs about his skin disease and his own children (when he was alive)? I'm not to be honest...

No, I don't, if I have to think objectively, then none of them should be included and as far as I know Quincy isn't. But if I have to choose between them I'd take QJ, at least he worked with Michael...
 
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Yeah totally my point, thanks for understanding what I was trying to express. :kickass:



Thats ok :)
 
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(some beautiful shots of Mike's a$$ too
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With the way everyone is talking bout mike's butt i think bad25 should be called "BUTT25" :p
 
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