MONSTER - The Official Discussion Thread

Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

so sue and dont tell anyone it if anyone has the guts and proves were all listing to fakes thell be doing everyone a favor.

I didn't know people could sue anonymously...because I'm willing to bet they aren't doing anything now because there would massive public backlash directed at them...Ivy where are you? :p
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

Yes, I would buy the album with all 12 Cascio tracks. Because it is Michael Jackson! I don't care about Cascios, Sony, Jacksons... but I care about Michael's name and his legacy. If some fans don't aprove some tracks on MICHAEL, that is fine by me, but boycotting the whole album is crazy! MJ needs this record (number one album in 4 decades) so please buy MICHAEL!

Michael Jackson is the best selling artist of all time because he never fails to deliver. He made great music. Period.

He's a genius. He also took his talents very seriously. He respected what God blessed him with and thus worked very very hard to finetune his crafts.

There is one thing that the public cannot pick on him - his music. But, if Sony continues with this trend and gives the public overly processed songs. They are doing Michael a dis-service.

I wish the album success. But, I also want to say Michael doesn't need another #1. He had achieved all. It's fans who want to have another MJ #1.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

When is monster expected to be released as a single?
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

^ In January, I think.

Here's the way I look at it. This is not for argumentative purposes, just to tell my side of the story.

Michael Jackson was living at the Cascio's house for 4 months. He obviously played a huge role in the writing of these songs (MJ's writing style is so easy to tell). I don't think anyone debates that Michael mostly wrote these songs. So if Cascio and him wrote these songs together...then it is logical to assume that some/all of the songs were recorded to some degree. It's non-logical to think "MJ spent 4 months in a house with a music producer and a recording studio around a time when he was known to be making new music, and did not sing one note into the microphone. It's simply ridiculous to think that they hired Jason Malachi or some other impersonator to come and sing 12 songs. That goes against all logic.

On the other hand... it makes much more sense to think that Michael recorded these songs to a limited degree and failed to finish them. Different parts of the songs were not complete and needed major tweaking. Teddy Riley has said he had to change the vibrato of MJ's voice to match up with some of the new compositions. The studio was in a basement with conditions that were not normal for regular studios that we are used to hearing MJ record in. And finally, Cascio is not a regular producer and would likely be considered B class opposed to the A style producers MJ has always worked with.

Logic would tell anyone that MJ is singing in these songs. Until substantial evidence is presented to the contrary, it will remain my belief that Keep Your Head Up, Monster, and Breaking News are Michael Jackson singing...Just in very different circumstances then we are used to. If I'm proved wrong in the future then so be it. But until then, this is my opinion.
Sounds logical, but the vocals still remind me of Jason Malachi's voice.

I still haven't made up my mind about the Cascio tracks :( Yesterday I was blasting out Monster (I still think it's a great song) but today I've skipped those three songs because they make me feel a bit uncomfortable.

if you think Malachi is on the vocals (regardless of the percentage) and he's not credited on the album (he is not), it's more the grounds for a lawsuit.

I'm excitedly waiting for somebody (either fan groups or Jackson's) sue Sony, rather than complaining on twitter or message boards.
Yes, I agree..
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

My song of the day is Monster! I can't get enough of it! Keep listening and dancing and singing along. What a great song! I can't wait for it to be released as a single!
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

My song of the day is Monster! I can't get enough of it! Keep listening and dancing and singing along. What a great song! I can't wait for it to be released as a single!

i like it but there are some odd parts in it - to me. (need to listen to it some more)

if anything, it could create some interest for a song Michael and his team started writing in 1997 called "Monster".

kinda strange he had 2 songs called that ??
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm


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Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

well MJ has too songs called.. ONE MORE CHANCE and released.. so!!

one with the Jacksons and one solo
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

well MJ has too songs called.. ONE MORE CHANCE and released.. so!!

one with the Jacksons and one solo

the Jacksons even had a third one :)
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

How would we know it's footage of him singing that exact song? Unless they actually have him singing it, instead of just including the image of his singing in the video. hope that makes sense. because just showing an image of michael, how do we know he's not singing some other song?????

Also, that does not mean the ENTIRE song is sung by him.

If they REALLY want to prove it is true. Show us a video of Michael singing the entire song, every bit of it. (except the rap)
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

That's the thing, recording records doesn't work that way, especially for singers. There's a lot of walk-throughs, stops, pauses, and syncing in. "Syncing in" is basically playing the song through the artists headphones from say the chorus or something, all the way up to the verse that will be recorded next. So I doubt there would be footage of him singing the song all the way through in one take.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

I think Sony and the estate is watching this song Monster above any song on the album. Judging from the itunes and the comments they know they have a hit on there hands. We are not seeing much in the way of PR now but I think in the new year we will see something big. IMO
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

I'm waiting for this vid, I'm sure there will be absolutely NOTHING! But it would be great that SOny gives a stupid video like they gave stupid "explanations" about the fake vocals, then everybody will know that Sony tells craps and craps and it's easier to understand that when it's a matter of watching (video), and not listening!
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

I think all of the attention and popularity has come to this song specifically because of 50 Cent's involvement to be honest.....
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

I think all of the attention and popularity has come to this song specifically because of 50 Cent's involvement to be honest.....

It helps of course to have a big name like that involved but I absolutly love the song and it would be a huge hit if released. The general public have always been more embracing of Michael's up tempo stuff so releasing up tempo for the second single is a good move.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

It helps of course to have a big name like that involved but I absolutly love the song and it would be a huge hit if released. The general public have always been more embracing of Michael's up tempo stuff so releasing up tempo for the second single is a good move.

I still think Hollywood Tonight would be the better choice. Just to hear that bass line kick in all over radio stations would be amazing.

Mind you, i'm one to think that the cascio tracks shouldnt have even been included on the album in the first place.....so of course i'm not going to think Monster would be the best choice for the second single.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

For the sake of the song's popularity, I hope this is true. although like L.T.D. I think "Hollywood Tonight" would have been better.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

I think all of the attention and popularity has come to this song specifically because of 50 Cent's involvement to be honest.....



I don't know where you'd been since yesterday but fifty cents is not than popular anymore
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

I don't know where you'd been since yesterday but fifty cents is not than popular anymore

Gosh yeah, maybe you're right!

Looks like people have just forgotten his name over night!


No but seriously, he's still a big name. People would be most curious to hear what a song with Michael Jackson and 50 Cent together sounds like.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

I hope Hollywood Tonight will be the 3rd single.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

i would of loved for hollywood tonight to be the 2nd single,my 12 year old loves it,so it appeals to the younger generation,it,s one of my favourites and hers,
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

Gosh yeah, maybe you're right!

Looks like people have just forgotten his name over night!


No but seriously, he's still a big name. People would be most curious to hear what a song with Michael Jackson and 50 Cent together sounds like.

Not in the states they won't.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

^ Maybe they won't like it after hearing it, but people would be curious when they see "Michael Jackson ft. 50 Cent". How can you not be...
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

It could just be one of the worst MJ songs ever.

Good luck to them.'won't even get top 10.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

^ Maybe they won't like it after hearing it, but people would be curious when they see "Michael Jackson ft. 50 Cent". How can you not be...

Because his popularity has decreased considerably here. I don't see why the tracks attention and acclaim can't be solely based on the fact that it's a good song, as opposed to the artist featured on it.
 
Because his popularity has decreased considerably here. I don't see why the tracks attention and acclaim can't be solely based on the fact that it's a good song, as opposed to the artist featured on it.

I live in the US. I know he isn't very popular anymore. All I'm saying is that when you see that it's featuring him, you get curious to hear what the hell it sounds like.
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

Crap! Why are they releasing Monster and not Hollywood Tonight or Behind The Mask as a single? I don't understand why everyone loves Monster so much, to me it's just ok, nothing special for an MJ song. Anyway, i'm rapidly losing interest in this massive cock-up of a project.....never thought I'd say that about an MJ album :-(((
 
Re: Video for 'MONSTER' will include footage of Michael in the studio!!

Crap! Why are they releasing Monster and not Hollywood Tonight or Behind The Mask as a single? I don't understand why everyone loves Monster so much, to me it's just ok, nothing special for an MJ song. Anyway, i'm rapidly losing interest in this massive cock-up of a project.....never thought I'd say that about an MJ album :-(((

i thinks most MJ fans like Hollywood tonight cause it sounds more Michael (not the voice, but the feeling, production,...)

monster sounds less like classic Mj, but for the mainstream audience monster will be a bigger hit then Hollywood tonight In my opinion cause it has more, how do you say, power! I'm not saying it's better.

Rest assured, HT will be released as a single ;) don't worry
 
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