Michael - The Official New Album - Out December 14th - General Discussion Thread

[mjjesamor]

First line of the song is "The clock begins to destroy Michael Jackson" WTF! Apart from the voice issue i am pissed that they chose to rehash all the the controversy and tabloid bs theme again. I am going to go for a walk and try to forget about this for a few hours. It's not good for me.

 

[damoonwalker]

Download Much To Soon snippet without the tags

http://www.mediafire.com/?dhcy4w7d2k55ssh

 

[jmoses]

First line of the song is "The clock begins to destroy Michael Jackson" WTF! Apart from the voice issue i am pissed that they chose to rehash all the the controversy and tabloid bs theme again. I am going to go for a walk and try to forget about this for a few hours. It's not good for me.

It's actually "the plot thickens to destroy Michael Jackson".

Coincidentally, the fans crying bloody murder over what hasn't yet been proven relates to this point.

 

[mjjesamor]

I meant to say the clock is ticking, the plot thickens..whatever... same difference.

 

[athina_livadi]

Can't we all please calm down! For heaven's sake the last couple of days there is nothing else but craziness around here! We'll see what happens and in the end whoever wants to buy the album he will and whoever doesn't he won't!
This is no healthy environment around here and it's bad for all of us!

 

[deano]

And the weight of 'real' evidence is turning against the 'BMB's! But they still refuse to open their eyes.

I used to hate the media & the press. But I hope, this time, they actually defeat the hard-core MJ 'fans' full of hatred.

Come on the press - defend Michael! Better late than never I say!

Reading some of these comments makes me realise what it must have been like in the dark ages;

"Who said the world is round!? That's nonsense! I can see the world is flat - look at it for God's sake! I don't need no experts telling me it's round when I can see with my own eyes man!"


Fast forward a few centuries;

"Who said MJ's vocal's are on 'Breaking News'! That's nonsense! I can hear Jason Malachi as clear as day!"

"It's not Jason Malachi? Ok then. I can hear that other impersonator..what's his name?"

"It's not him either!? Ask Teddy Riley. He's a good guy, he knows what he's talking about!"

"He says it's MJ!? He's full of sh** that guy, ignore him. I know, ask Dileo..Frankie Dileo..he knows I tell ya!"

"Dileo says it's MJ!? What the F*** does he know about any thing? He's corrupt!"

Listen geezer. I don't need no one telling me that the world is round...I....I mean MJ's vocals are not on this song. I can hear it with my own ears!"


Some things never change do they?

 

[The Healer]

Can't we all please calm down! For heaven's sake the last couple of days there is nothing else but craziness around here! We'll see what happens and in the end whoever wants to buy the album he will and whoever doesn't he won't!
This is no healthy environment around here and it's bad for all of us!

:clapping:
I agree. Things have gone too far.

 

[jmoses]

And the weight of 'real' evidence is turning against the 'BMB's! But they still refuse to open their eyes.

I used to hate the media & the press. But I hope, this time, they actually defeat the hard-core MJ 'fans' full of hatred.

Come on the press - defend Michael! Better late than never I say!

Reading some of these comments makes me realise what it must have been like in the dark ages;

"Who said the world is round!? That's nonsense! I can see the world is flat - look at it for God's sake! I don't need no experts telling me it's round when I can see with my own eyes man!"


Fast forward a few centuries;

"Who said MJ's vocal's are on 'Breaking News'! That's nonsense! I can hear Jason Malachi as clear as day!"

"It's not Jason Malachi? Ok then. I can hear that other impersonator..what's his name?"

"It's not him either!? Ask Teddy Riley. He's a good guy, he knows what he's talking about!"

"He says it's MJ!? He's full of sh** that guy, ignore him. I know, ask Dileo..Frankie Dileo..he knows I tell ya!"

"Dileo says it's MJ!? What the F*** does he know about any thing? He's corrupt!"

Listen geezer. I don't need no one telling me that the world is round...I....I mean MJ's vocals are not on this song. I can hear it with my own ears!"


Some things never change do they?

...Brilliant summary.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

And the weight of 'real' evidence is turning against the 'BMB's! But they still refuse to open their eyes.

I used to hate the media & the press. But I hope, this time, they actually defeat the hard-core MJ 'fans' full of hatred.

Come on the press - defend Michael! Better late than never I say!

Reading some of these comments makes me realise what it must have been like in the dark ages;

"Who said the world is round!? That's nonsense! I can see the world is flat - look at it for God's sake! I don't need no experts telling me it's round when I can see with my own eyes man!"


Fast forward a few centuries;

"Who said MJ's vocal's are on 'Breaking News'! That's nonsense! I can hear Jason Malachi as clear as day!"

"It's not Jason Malachi? Ok then. I can hear that other impersonator..what's his name?"

"It's not him either!? Ask Teddy Riley. He's a good guy, he knows what he's talking about!"

"He says it's MJ!? He's full of sh** that guy, ignore him. I know, ask Dileo..Frankie Dileo..he knows I tell ya!"

"Dileo says it's MJ!? What the F*** does he know about any thing? He's corrupt!"

Listen geezer. I don't need no one telling me that the world is round...I....I mean MJ's vocals are not on this song. I can hear it with my own ears!"


Some things never change do they?

Maybe for some fans, but most fans reacted very differently. They simply didn't expect Teddy to say this, and i don't believe him neither. I have my own set of ears. What you seem to forget or don't realize that you are forgetting is that money makes people do strange things, and yes i am talking about Teddy too then.

When so many fans and alot of non-fans here say it's definitely not Michael. Then we get other snippets and you just HEAR it's Michael, what about that? I seriously think it's Jason Malachi, the comparison video on youtube is a very good example. Dileo for all i care hasn't said shit yet, some tabloid article saying he did say this...nah. And also, how trustworthy is he?

You are starting to become very annoying, stop with it. Trying to make fools out of the real fans in here who have listened to MJ's music ever since they were babies. Your summary means nothing, and is based on a few fans maybe in here, you are acting like every fan in here said 'Oh it's not Jason, then its this dude....' nonsense. I for one never said that and still firmly believe it's Jason.

Stop defending Sony so much, it's getting beyond annoying.

 

[Kikuchiyo]

And the weight of 'real' evidence is turning against the 'BMB's! But they still refuse to open their eyes.

I used to hate the media & the press. But I hope, this time, they actually defeat the hard-core MJ 'fans' full of hatred.

Come on the press - defend Michael! Better late than never I say!

Reading some of these comments makes me realise what it must have been like in the dark ages;

"Who said the world is round!? That's nonsense! I can see the world is flat - look at it for God's sake! I don't need no experts telling me it's round when I can see with my own eyes man!"


Fast forward a few centuries;

"Who said MJ's vocal's are on 'Breaking News'! That's nonsense! I can hear Jason Malachi as clear as day!"

"It's not Jason Malachi? Ok then. I can hear that other impersonator..what's his name?"

"It's not him either!? Ask Teddy Riley. He's a good guy, he knows what he's talking about!"

"He says it's MJ!? He's full of sh** that guy, ignore him. I know, ask Dileo..Frankie Dileo..he knows I tell ya!"

"Dileo says it's MJ!? What the F*** does he know about any thing? He's corrupt!"

Listen geezer. I don't need no one telling me that the world is round...I....I mean MJ's vocals are not on this song. I can hear it with my own ears!"


Some things never change do they?

This is so true, so sad and true.

 

[sophiemj]

I guess the Estate should release part of raw mj demo unmixed and the mixed one to compare !This will solve all problems caused.

 

[Kirshach]

Download Much To Soon snippet without the tags

http://www.mediafire.com/?dhcy4w7d2k55ssh

whoa! it's just... beautiful! thank you so much!

 

[serena williams]

Re: if michael knew you were going to buy his new album what wouid you say to him ?

Well michael would have never realeased an album with impersonators

So there is not even question

 

[MsMo]

:clapping:

We're so accustomed to Michael not only singing, but also layering his own background vocals, that hearing so much of the other voice(s) is shocking. But when I listen to the acapella version and compare, there is no doubt, MJ ALL the way.

Hopefully the album will have more nearly finished and/or simply unreleased songs.

I'm probably going to get slaughtered for saying this, but after spending a couple of days thinking about it, I think that the tracks are probably as genuine as they can be and I don't think anyone is trying to fool us.

I think they found some great song concepts, some great "single-takes" and some radio-friendly ideas and did the best they could on them. I also think the recordings they did have were probably rubbish quality and needed serious work to be audible, let alone releasable, and I think it's this that has caused the confusion. Perhaps they have "over-corrected"?

Either way, I find it hard to believe that an organisation would pay such huge amounts of money for tracks that aren't real. I also find it hard to believe that a great number of professional people would come forward and say that the tracks are Michael's if they weren't. Keep in mind these people have careers that don't necessarily rest on Michael's legacy, but saying the vocals are MJ's only to be proven wrong later would be beyond devastating to their professional lives. I honestly believe that these people are saying they're Michael's vocals because they are. They're just really rough vocals (not because of Michael, just the recordings themselves).

I think some group of people out there, or maybe just one person, is trying to disrupt this process for some reason. Perhaps the conspiracy is the talk about the tracks being fake, not that the tracks actually are fake?

Ultimately, you need a lot of people to keep a valuable secret for something like this to happen. I don't think that you can achieve that when money talks the way it does. I think the tracks are probably real, they're just not what we expected or wanted.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

This is so true, so sad and true.

It's not true at all, dude is overreacting as hell.

 

[PCR]

whoa! it's just... beautiful! thank you so much!

aawwwww, thanks so, so much for this.
That is real music to my poor ears.
I love him :wub:

 

[PCR]

Breaking News Guide Vocalist Revealed

The first of the Cascio tracks to be released –”Breaking News”–obviously isn’t a perfect realization of Michael Jackson’s abilities. Receiving the most critical attention are Jackson’s vocals, the veracity of which even some family and fans are questioning.

There are understandable reasons for this. This certainly isn’t a “typical” Jackson recording: there weren’t extensive warm ups with longtime vocal coach Seth Riggs, no layering and polishing by Jackson himself, no Bruce Swedien and world-class studio technology to capture the original vocal.

This was a guide demo, supplemented by the supporting vocals of James Porte (for which he is credited).

It was also specifically verified that the vocals did not belong to well-known Jackson impersonator, Jason Malachi.

Source: HuffingtonPost

wwooww!!!
Can you give us the link to this, please?
I can't find it!

 

[rob.mail7]

so, anymore info over night guys, or are we still listening to 'much too soon', 'another day', 'do u know where ur children' are, 'blue gansta'... and ignoring the rest? any new theories as to whats up with the 'NON' Mj tracks?

 

[MJMarty]

I'm going to wait and see now... Breaking News has made me confused more than anything. The released version sounds very suspect but the acapella in the other thread sounds like Michael.

 

[xscape guy 2003]

this album even given the bad start is going to be incredible with songs like much too soon, does u know where your children are, etc! can not wait!!!!

T

 

[kasume]

I don't know if this article has been posted. It's been released six hours ago. It talks about still putting BN on the album anyways.

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=12104627

Another thing, it's SO EASY to leak all those other snippets, so why not BN???? Do they not want us to hear it???

 

[PCR]

I'm going to wait and see now... Breaking News has made me confused more than anything. The released version sounds very suspect but the acapella in the other thread sounds like Michael.

geeezz, I feel the same.
what a mess.
I should know for sure and see what happens...
this makes me feel so bad as a fan. ahhhh, well.... :ermm:

 

[*Little Suzie*]

Hey Everybody...
I'm back..
Something new?

 

[Sikri06]

Have anybody heard what this Bobby Ewing guy (named after a character from Dallas) sounds like, when he sings?
Could the voice on the Breaking News-track be his original recording of the song? We know he recorded it at somepoint.

 

[m26uk]

heres a question why would mj do the gruff adlibs on bn before doing the verses???

 

[nickzark]

All his song belong to his fans, they were made for us, so I think no matter what all must be released and brought out in public!

??? ?? ??? ??? ?????...Tell it Sophie.All must be released NOW

 

[Matti]

Guys, I really think at least 90% of us (the ones who think it is Michael singing and the ones who don´t think so) can agree BN voice sounds at least different and not typical MJ voice. There seems to be more proofs it is MJ and the main problem is, that it was just rough demo and they had to finish it. But I don´t want to point finger on this, everybody has his own opinion, BUT:

I was thinking about this. I am not a Sony fan, but also not hater – we all know it is a record company and it wants to make profit. And the real question is: Would they make profit with fake album after they already paid so much to MJ Estate? I don´t think so. More over can you imagine how much money would they need to pay to every insider (producers, journalists, managers, experts, all the media etc) so they say „it is MJ“ even if it wasn´t? There is no way the album would make profit!

So I really start to believe what we are hearing, the problem is how much they needed to change and finish the demos which were probably very early demos.
The other question is, why they choosed this song to start with? I hope the reason is they want to know public reaction cos they know it doesn´t sound like Michael. I really hope that the reason is not that BN is one of the best tracks on the album, cos that would be the biggest trouble IMO. Lets just hope that the 3 Cascios tracks were very early demos which were finished and the other tracks on the album will be our „normal“ Michael standard.

I am sad cos now I am more and more sure that will.i.am tracks won´t be on the album. If they just replace 3 Cascios tracks with will.i.am tracks, the problem is over. Or just put Escape and We have had enough there. Yeah, we know them, but they are great and 100% our Mike. In worst, use other Invincible sessions songs... But I guess they want to save this kind of songs for future releases and that´s what causes this troubles.

 

[MattyJam]

this album even given the bad start is going to be incredible with songs like much too soon, does u know where your children are, etc! can not wait!!!!

T

At last!!! Some positivity.

Regardless of the whole Cascio fiasco, I'm still excited to hear MJ's voice on the other tracks, and the leaks I have heard sound awesome!

I hope they sort out this mess, but whatever happens, we ARE getting brand new authentic MJ songs and I for one CAN'T WAIT!

 

[nickzark]

wE need positivity in this forum and of course for all MJ fans.Stop negatinity

 

[jilliebean]

Re: The Official New Album Thread -"Breaking News" Announcement Page 464

First of all, the first line of the song had me literally thinking 'what??? No way! He just said his own name!....and twice!'

Since when did Michael sing his own name in his song? He's made SO MANY personal songs, and NONE of them had him singing his own name.

And then there's that part at 2:27 that sounds just wierd. Like 'is that really Michael?' That literally, was my thought when I first heard that part.

Then there's those hee hee's at the end. There's just something about the way those are sung that doesn't sound like Michael. I can't really put my finger on it though. Did anyone else notice something about those hee hee's at the end. And another thing to add, they also almost sounded pasted on there at certain times of the song. Every fan knows that Michael's 'hee's' are spontaneous.

If someone has the acapella, can you please send me the link?

I'm having second thoughts on buying that album. I never wanted to buy it anyways in the first place, because a lot of us know what $ony did to Michael, and know look who they put as gatekeeper of Michael's music...motolla.

I still don't know how to quote just part of someone's post, LOL! :doh: Anyway, I totally, totally agree with what you said about the Hee, hee's in this song, they don't sound like Michael at all to me. I just told my kids the other day that you never hear anyone sing "he he" in a song with out it sounding kind of funny, but when Michael would do it, it was not comical. In this song it sounds all wrong to me, they are too slow and the tone is the same it's almost like he's talking them, and not singing them...