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Michael - The Great Album Debate

Arklove;3636387 said:
First one darker brown, second lighter...I noticed that in the first place, but didn't know if it was important...
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It is important, because they are not darker/lighter, they are exactly the same color.

Now, question n°3

look at the color of the tile in the center of the cube in the shadow and the tile in the center on top of it.
What colors are those tiles in their respective centers?

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BUMPER SNIPPET;3636388 said:
It is important, because they are not darker/lighter, they are exactly the same color.

Now, question n°3

look at the color of the tile in the center of the cube in the shadow and the tile in the center on top of it.
What colors are those tiles in their respective centers?

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Yellow, brown...
 
Arklove;3636389 said:
Yellow, brown...
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If you all agree with Arklove, or if you say orange and brown, you are correct.

Well, actually, your brain tricked you. They are not yellow/orange and brown, they are both same brown! If you don't believe me, print out the picture on a paper, cut the tile out and put it nexto the other tile in the center and you'll see that they are of exactly same color.

Question n°4

Look carefully at the square "A" and the square "B". Which one is darker, and which one is lighter?

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BUMPER SNIPPET;3636394 said:
If you all agree with Arklove, or if you say orange and brown, you are correct.

Well, actually, your brain tricked you. They are not yellow/orange and brown, they are both same brown! If you don't believe me, print out the picture on a paper, cut the tile out and put it nexto the other tile in the center and you'll see that they are of exactly same color.

Question n°4

Look carefully at the square "A" and the square "B". Which one is darker, and which one is lighter?

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A is dark...B is light..
 
A and B are exactly the SAME color! Your brain tricked you again.

Ready for the final question? It's an audio question, so you will have to watch a 4 sec snippet video and listen to it at the same time?
 
Please follow my instructions.

Watch this person and listen to the person pronouncing.... what sound: GA? BA? DA? or HA?

[youtube]aFPtc8BVdJk[/youtube]
 
If you all doubt like Arklove and Love Is Magical, it is normal.

Now if you want the answer to your question, listen again to the same person. Press replay and close your eyes. So listen to him with your eyes closed. The answer will be presented to you by your brain by magic. So what is the answer? :)
 
bumper snippet said:
if you all doubt like arklove and love is magical, it is normal.

Now if you want the answer to your question, listen again to the same person. Press replay and close your eyes. So listen to him with your eyes closed. The answer will be presented to you by your brain by magic. So what is the answer? :)
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ba! :d
 
My point is that, our brain interprets things according to the context. Sometimes it needs vision, sometimes it needs only the ears without being influenced by other information.

The brain compares relentlessly all the situations that it has encountered previously and interprets it in the present situation.

The point is, the reason why there is a controversy with the Cascio tracks is because our brain is comparing the voice with something that we are already familiar with. It tells you if it sounds teh same or different than what it has always sounded to you.

Another point is, without audio comparisons between the Cascio vocalist and MJ or the suspected JM, it is impossible to determine who is the singer. That's why it is important to isolate all teh characteristics in the voice of the Cascio singer and copmpare them with all the characteristics with both MJ and JM. Then, after those comparisons decide whether the brain tricked you or whether the characteristics of teh voice matches more with one singer than the other.

Some things cannot be denied as far as I am concerned.
 
Little explanation regarding the last test. The person video recorded himself simply opening the mouth, and separately recorded "BA" on an audio track which he superposed as voice over to the viddeo. Basically your eyes tricked your ears. Once you closed your eyes you eliminated the problem and the doubt disappeared simply relying on your ears.
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Little explanation regarding the last test. The person video recorded himself simply opening the mouth, and separately recorded "BA" on an audio track which he superposed as voice over to the viddeo. Basically your eyes tricked your ears. Once you closed your eyes you eliminated the problem and the doubt disappeared simply relying on your ears.
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Had you not told me to watch and listen at the same time, I would have heard BA in the first place :D
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
My point is that, our brain interprets things according to the context. Sometimes it needs vision, sometimes it needs only the ears without being influenced by other information.

The brain compares relentlessly all the situations that it has encountered previously and interprets it in the present situation.

The point is, the reason why there is a controversy with the Cascio tracks is because our brain is comparing the voice with something that we are already familiar with. It tells you if it sounds teh same or different than what it has always sounded to you.

Another point is, without audio comparisons between the Cascio vocalist and MJ or the suspected JM, it is impossible to determine who is the singer. That's why it is important to isolate all teh characteristics in the voice of the Cascio singer and copmpare them with all the characteristics with both MJ and JM. Then, after those comparisons decide whether the brain tricked you or whether the characteristics of teh voice matches more with one singer than the other.

Some things cannot be denied as far as I am concerned.
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Arklove said:
Had you not told me to watch and listen at the same time, I would have heard BA in the first place :D
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Every time u watch and listen at the same time u'll doubt what u hear. U must close ur eyes to remove the doubt. It's called McGurk effect.

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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Every time u watch and listen at the same time u'll doubt what u hear. U must close ur eyes to remove the doubt. It's called McGurk effect.

[youtube]G-lN8vWm3m0&feature=related[/youtube]
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I remember this video...I think you posted it last year lol..

What an amazing illusion, though...
 
BJ Hickman ?@BJHickman7
I know for a FACT that "Keep Your Head Up" is MJ. I was there with 4 others when he recorded it. I wish the others would speak up, (cont)
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6:46 PM - 10 May 12 via web


SCReuter @SCReuter
@BJHickman7 You personally witnessed Michael Jackson record vocals for "Keep Your Head Up"? Specifically when and where did this take place?
9:50 PM - 10 May 12 via web


SCReuter ?@SCReuter
@BJHickman7 Were you in the same room as Michael when he allegedly recorded Keep Your Head Up?
10:03 PM - 10 May 12 via web


BJ Hickman @BJHickman7
@SCReuter Myself and 4 other fans where in the house in New Jersey in 2007... Yes.
10:05 PM - 10 May 12 via web


SCReuter @SCReuter
@BJHickman7 Thanks for the reply!
10:10 PM - 10 May 12 via web


BJ Hickman @BJHickman7
@SCReuter Youre very welcome. I am trying to encourage the other 4 to step forward, however, they "dont want to help sony"
10:11 PM - 10 May 12 via web
 
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It just goes to show how desperate people are to try and prove these songs are real. Hickman was absolutely not in that house. He states that Frank Cascio was there but Frank himself stated in his book that he wasn't if I remember correctly. Utter nonsense. If they had actually witnessed Michael recording these songs, why wait until now to state as such? Why not come forward and explain in detail what they witnessed back in 2010 when this controversy started? Other four. Yeah right. They hate Sony so much that they are willing to let the fan base tear itself apart instead of speaking out and helping the one person who's suffered the most in this: Michael Jackson.
 
SCReuter ?@SCReuter
@BJHickman7 Interesting. Aside from the four other fans, can you disclose who else was in the recording room? Was James Porte there?
10:24 PM - 10 May 12 via web


BJ Hickman @BJHickman7
@SCReuter It was Michael and Eddie. Frank and Michael's kids was in the house too. Not sure who else.
10:24 PM - 10 May 12 via web


BJ Hickman @BJHickman7
@SCReuter I do not know who James Porte is. I have never met the person nor do I remember him being talked about.
10:24 PM - 10 May 12 via web


SCReuter @SCReuter
@BJHickman7 Thanks again for the responses. This is all very helpful.
10:27 PM - 10 May 12 via web


BJ Hickman @BJHickman7
@SCReuter Very welcome. Some people are attacking me and saying I am lying... but why lie? I have NOTHING to gain.
10:28 PM - 10 May 12 via web
 
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StellaJackson said:
He states that Frank Cascio was there but Frank himself stated in his book that he wasn't if I remember correctly.
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Frank said he was living at NY that time but went back to the house to visit Michael and kids.


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I have talked to another follower fan that said 4- 5 fans went to NJ in 2007. The fan that I talked was not there. I'll ask around more. I'll try to find one of the fans that was in NJ and ask them what happened.

oh and these people DO hate AEG, Sony and Estate. Don't forget that the follower fans later on started the TINI campaign.
 
i was there too. i served everyone iced tea, and after the recording session we all took a trip to the mall and tried on hats. It was a grand old time

if my own MOTHER told me she was at that recording session and heard michael lay down "kyhu" i wouldn't believe it. it's total ish. the desperation to defend these pathetic POS tracks is kind of depressing.
 
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