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Michael - The Great Album Debate

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I used to follow Charles Thomson but I unfollowed after I figured out what his tweets were generally about. As mentioned previously, he always makes fun of people on talent shows, I remember particularly X Factor. He also seems to attempt to find racism in any TV show where a black person is involved (again, X Factor is an example).

I remember a few months ago Charles was using a tweet from Paris as proof that the Cascio tracks are not Michael, yet he ignored dozens of tweets showing him that Paris also believes HT isn't MJ, so her opinion isn't trustworthy. Anyway, the last straw for me was when I saw him deciding who was and wasn't fans and wishing death on people with a different opinion that his own.

Just want to say, it makes me sick to see people (some from here) supporting Charles (mostly for the reasons I have already mentioned). I don't know if this is true of not, but I've also heard that Charles Thomson was a Michael Jackson hater just a few years ago. I also remember someone on this forum saying that Charles claimed Blanket was Hispanic and that it was obvious none of Michael's children were biologically his.

However, Charles is against the Cascio tracks so we should all support him right? :smilerolleyes:
 
Arklove said:
^^ Garden, I can understand that....But what if you don't try to 'believe' any statements? Why don't you try and believe what your own ears are telling you? How can anyone else tell you that?

azsummergirl has said it best several times: Give yourself more credit...What do YOU hear when you listen to these songs? It's not about what others' are telling us what we're hearing...It's what YOU hear...

Eddie Cascio, Charles Thompson, Corey Rooney, Tony Kurtis, the Estate's statement, Quincy Jones, Teddy Riley, the kids, the Jacksons etc, etc....They can all say whatever they want about these songs, either side of the fence, believers, doubters...in the end, I really don't care what any of them say....I know Michael's voice and I base my judgment on that....I'm not saying I know Michael's voice better than anyone else, BUT I do have confidence in my own hearing and experience of listening to MJ for almost my entire life....
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Arklove, about "hearing" itself, not what people tel counts for me. But when you say 'I don't hear Michael" I say, OK you don't hear him. And when someone says "I hear Michael", I say OK, you hear Michael. But of course how can I know what they hear, it is not my ears. So my own ears...hm, to be honest I am not sure what my own ears tel me. And I am not sure that people who try to teach how to interprete what my ears hear... well I don't know if that's really the way I should interprete what I hear. So when I say, I believe both visions, is the same thing as I believe neither opinion. I'll leave it open to all possible possibilities and I am not even going to think them all over. It's over for me (it should for my mental health :D), but why am I telling you this :D. Never mind, going to enjoy a good night sleep, wish you the same, grtz, garden
 
:D hey Love is Magical, not of my business but, being not so english languaged either, what is VERBOSE? I am soooo intrigued what that may be !!
 
B.J. Hickman @BJHickman7
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I know for a FACT that "Keep Your Head Up" is MJ. I was there with 4 others when he recorded it. I wish the others would speak up, (cont)

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(cont) but their hatered of the Estate and Sony is keeping them quite. SMH.
 
KingMikeJ said:
I used to follow Charles Thomson but I unfollowed after I figured out what his tweets were generally about. As mentioned previously, he always makes fun of people on talent shows, I remember particularly X Factor. He also seems to attempt to find racism in any TV show where a black person is involved (again, X Factor is an example).

I remember a few months ago Charles was using a tweet from Paris as proof that the Cascio tracks are not Michael, yet he ignored dozens of tweets showing him that Paris also believes HT isn't MJ, so her opinion isn't trustworthy. Anyway, the last straw for me was when I saw him deciding who was and wasn't fans and wishing death on people with a different opinion that his own.

Just want to say, it makes me sick to see people (some from here) supporting Charles (mostly for the reasons I have already mentioned). I don't know if this is true of not, but I've also heard that Charles Thomson was a Michael Jackson hater just a few years ago. I also remember someone on this forum saying that Charles claimed Blanket was Hispanic and that it was obvious none of Michael's children were biologically his.

However, Charles is against the Cascio tracks so we should all support him right? :smilerolleyes:
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I support his opinion on the Cascio tracks, cuz he's pointed out a lot of things we've been saying in this very thread...However, it doesn't mean I agree with his insults to fans or anything else he says...I don't even know this dude, I don't follow him, I don't read anything he says...I only read this particular tweet cuz it was posted in here, and I've read his article on the media bias re: the trial...That's it...

He should get his facts straight, leave the insults and the negativity out, obviously...

There are a lot of doubters out there that I agree with in terms of vocal authenticity, but I don't always agree with the WAY in which they express these opinions...Some of what they say is disgusting and un-called for...

It is what it is...It's two different things...*shrugs*
 
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B.J. Hickman @BJHickman7
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I know for a FACT that "Keep Your Head Up" is MJ. I was there with 4 others when he recorded it. I wish the others would speak up, (cont)

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(cont) but their hatered of the Estate and Sony is keeping them quite. SMH.
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Yeah right.
 
Do you guys remember during the trial when there was a fan who was on tv quite a bit? He was outside the courtroom loads. He gave so much abuse to Diane Dimond that she took out a restraining order against him. Which makes him a legend in my book. That's BJ Hickman. I highly doubt he was there when "Michael" "recorded" KYHU though.
 
B.J. Hickman ? @BJHickman7
@birgiterika I just have my word. I have nothing to gain. Its not like I video taped him or something.

B.J. Hickman ? @BJHickman7
RE: "MICHAEL" CD - I STATE MY FEELINGS & MY KNOWLEDGE OF THE EVENTS. 2 EACH HIS OWN, BUT DON'T BASH THOSE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH U. ENOUGH!

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@birgiterika IDK about Monster or Breaking News as I didnt hear those recorded first hand... but I personally feel that is is those of MJ

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@birgiterika I am going to give them a chance to come forward as enough is enough.
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@MJvoiceforever Yes, thats me. I never said I supported the Estate or Sony. I am just telling what I know.



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Give me some time. I'll try to check this with some other people.
 
StellaJackson said:
Do you guys remember during the trial when there was a fan who was on tv quite a bit? He was outside the courtroom loads. He gave so much abuse to Diane Dimond that she took out a restraining order against him. Which makes him a legend in my book. That's BJ Hickman. I highly doubt he was there when "Michael" "recorded" KYHU though.
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OIC. SO, he's a fan. Anyone knows whether Michael invited fans to his recording sessions previously?
 
Hmm it's funny we're talking about a random dude called Charles Thomson or whatever and not the issues themselves.
 
With all due respect to Hickman, I don't believe this at all. Can someone ask him the date and time this took place? How did he end up in there? Can he describe the scene in detail?
 
Ok, maybe some of you have already done this test before. If that is the case please do not spoil it for those who have never done it before.

All I am asking is to be honest with yourself and to follow my instructions.

My first instruction is to watch a picture and answer the following in all honesty:

which part of the object you see is darker and which part of the object is lighter?


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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Ok, maybe some of you have already done this test before. If that is the case please do not spoil it for those who have never done it before.

All I am asking is to be honest with yourself and to follow my instructions.

My first instruction is to watch a picture and answer the following in all honesty:

which part of the object you see is darker and which part of the object is lighter?


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Top darker, bottom lighter...
 
If you all agree with Arklove, follow my next instruction:

Put your finger in the middle of the object (hide the middle of the object by your finger) along the horizon and tell what does your brain tell you now?
 
StellaJackson said:
With all due respect to Hickman, I don't believe this at all. Can someone ask him the date and time this took place? How did he end up in there? Can he describe the scene in detail?
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he's on twitter and I believe someone asking him.

Now I heard that some follower fans were at NJ but I have no idea if they were ever in the house / studio or heard / saw any recording.

I'll try to see what I can gather but don't hold your breath.
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
If you all agree with Arklove, follow my next instruction:

Put your finger in the middle of the object (hide the middle of the object by your finger) along the horizon and tell what does your brain tell you now?
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Ha! Weird...It's all dark...
 
KingMikeJ said:
I used to follow Charles Thomson but I unfollowed after I figured out what his tweets were generally about. As mentioned previously, he always makes fun of people on talent shows, I remember particularly X Factor. He also seems to attempt to find racism in any TV show where a black person is involved (again, X Factor is an example).

I remember a few months ago Charles was using a tweet from Paris as proof that the Cascio tracks are not Michael, yet he ignored dozens of tweets showing him that Paris also believes HT isn't MJ, so her opinion isn't trustworthy. Anyway, the last straw for me was when I saw him deciding who was and wasn't fans and wishing death on people with a different opinion that his own.

Just want to say, it makes me sick to see people (some from here) supporting Charles (mostly for the reasons I have already mentioned). I don't know if this is true of not, but I've also heard that Charles Thomson was a Michael Jackson hater just a few years ago. I also remember someone on this forum saying that Charles claimed Blanket was Hispanic and that it was obvious none of Michael's children were biologically his.

However, Charles is against the Cascio tracks so we should all support him right? :smilerolleyes:
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Although i agree with some things that you are saying, for example him wishing death and things like that i have to point out that Aphrodite Jones was also not an MJ fan before she write her book.On the contrary. Same with lots of people out there who didn't know the truth about MJ. But that shouldn't be a reason to dismiss their opinion, in my opinion. Also, in all the pro MJ articles that i have read written by Charles Thomson, i have never or rarely find any misinformation or lie by him. He is very careful in his research when writing and publishing articles concerning MJ's trial and the accusation. His article of Hunffigton post about the 2005 trial is one of the best that i have ever read and lots of people found the truth about the trial and MJ through that article. So that is the reason why so many people, including me, support Charles Thompson.

Now, if in his twitter account he is more carefree and not so attend when he is expressing his opinion well, that his twitter account so he can say whatever he wants. I don't agree with him wishing death to people but that won't make me dismiss his opinion on serious matter concerning MJ. And the trial/ allegations are more important issue than the Cascio songs. Those are some of the reasons that lead MJ to an early grave.

Oh, and the majority of fans don't support Charles because the Cascio thing but because he is one the few journalists who have defended so rationally and with facts MJ. And that's not going to change my feeling towards him even if in his twitter account he claims that neither of MJ kids are his, which lots of fan do believe it but that doesn't make them less fans that you and me, or if the Cascio songs were all written and performed by MJ.
 
If you all see the same color when putting your finger in order to hide the middle of the object then it's normal. It IS the same color in reality. The bottom isn't lighter than the top.

Next question, look at the two squares shown by the arrow and tell what color are they?


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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
If you all see the same color when putting your finger in order to hide the middle of the object then it's normal. It IS the same color in reality. The bottom isn't lighter than the top.

Next question, look at the two squares shown by the arrow and tell what color are they?


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Brown..
 
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