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Michael - The Great Album Debate

First of all as a businessman I would never buy tracks with no proof and especially if I had to pay out of my own pocket the forensics to tell me what I have just bought.

Secondly, if I were a producer who produced 12 MJ songs, well that would have been an awesome asset on my résumé! Hell yeah, I'd talk about it in Joe Vogel's book and in the media. What would I have to lose?????
 
Arklove said:
Exactly...and I know we keep harping on the fact that we want more information from Eddie...But it's just increasingly more obvious as we point out all these inconsistencies that there really is no other logical reason that he wouldn't divulge this info other than he just simply doesn't have it , hence, it never happened...
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Look at Michael recording AIYN with Barry Gibb. He's snapping his fingers and tapping his leg. Listen to Mj songs and you can hear that all over the place. Look at that video of Jason singing Don't Walk Away a capella. He has his hands up all the time when he's singing, hence no finger snaps etc. Listen to his records. No finger snaps or anything. The Cascio tracks match the latter not the former. It's just another match in a long line for these songs along with the vibrato, the dialect, the accent, the snorts, the pronounciation etc. Plus the fact that when you listen to MJ tracks, then Jason tracks then the Cascio songs, they sound extremely dissimilar to Mj yet identical to Jason. Couple that with all the other suspicious circumstances such as not even appearing until almost a year after Mj died, the total lack of clarity and the "gone to ground" Jason Cupeta and it should be blatantly obvious what happened. Why people defend these songs and defend Eddie Cascio is utterly beyond me.
 
^^ Not only in demos you can hear these types of things, but in final recordings....You can hear footstomps in Will You Be There, finger snaps in Billie Jean, hand claps in Whatever Happens, he even clears his throat in APOM! These are just randomly off the top of my head, and span all eras, and I know there are tons more...So, now we have 12 songs, and nothing like this? But it's very obvious what we're missing here when you look at Michael's habits in the studio...We may not have PROOF, but all one has to do is put the pieces of the puzzle together...
 
Arklove said:
^^ Not only in demos you can hear these types of things, but in final recordings....You can hear footstomps in Will You Be There, finger snaps in Billie Jean, hand claps in Whatever Happens, he even clears his throat in APOM! These are just randomly off the top of my head, and span all eras, and I know there are tons more...So, now we have 12 songs, and nothing like this? But it's very obvious what we're missing here when you look at Michael's habits in the studio...We may not have PROOF, but all one has to do is put the pieces of the puzzle together...
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Randy Watson does the foot stump too.
 
Will.i.am: Michael Jackson's Voice Is Still Perfect
He has seen it first hand...
May 05, 2009

Will.i.am has allayed fans fears that Michael Jackson's voice may have suffered during the decade since his last live performance, saying it is still perfect.
Many have suggested that Jackson's vocals may not be up to the task of performing live ahead of his London residency this summer.
However, Will.i.am has revealed that during recording sessions Jackson was nothing short of perfect after three hours of warming up.
He told Starpulse: "He was in my house. It's one thing you hear rumors, but when the guy's in your house, laying on your floor as you're playing beats, he's like, 'Will.i.am, I love this beat.'
"He's laying and his feet are up on the chair, he's kicking his feet. I'm like dude, Michael Jackson's laying on my floor. He's testing his voice and three hours has passed.
"He's just mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi, mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi. He's doing both voice testing just to sing for five minutes. He's testing his voice for three hours to sing for five minutes.
"I don't know. Fergie don't do that sh*t. Usher don't do that sh*t. None of the people that you think still got it do that. I've seen it, in my house. That's because he's a perfectionist and he just likes testing his voice.
"I'm like, 'Dude, can we record now? Because it's three hours, and it's only going take five minutes.' 'No, I just want to warm it up.' Like dude, that's hot. It's warmed up. And he has it. I've seen it. He mi mi mi'd for three hours. Perfect pitch."
http://www.gigwise.com/news/50733/William-Michael-Jacksons-Voice-Is-Still-Perfect

In the multi-million dolllar documentary "This Is It," we definitely have proof how Michael was extremely protective of his voice, giving Kenny Ortega a lecture about not rushing him into singing full-out singing. Michael was 'warming up to the moment!'

Michael Jackson's This Is It - I Just Can't Stop Loving You Blu-Ray (The Best Quality Ever)


So why did so much work have to go into the "Cascio" songs, altering Michael's voice, as this was Michael's bread and butter, his perfection of his voice?
 
I'm listening to Madonna's Immaculate Collection. Just heard La Isla Bonita and remembered that it's a song passed by Michael. I wasn't surprised at all. I like the song, but it isn't a MJ worthy song. I mean sometimes when I heard a good song by other artists, I'd imagine in my mind how the song would sound if Michael sang it. But, that thought never came to my MJ d when listening to La Isla Bonita.

Twenty years later, Michael would be interested in Burn Tonight? IMHO, La Isla Bonita has better composition and melody.
 
AliCat said:
Will.i.am: Michael Jackson's Voice Is Still Perfect
He has seen it first hand...
May 05, 2009

Will.i.am has allayed fans fears that Michael Jackson's voice may have suffered during the decade since his last live performance, saying it is still perfect.
Many have suggested that Jackson's vocals may not be up to the task of performing live ahead of his London residency this summer.
However, Will.i.am has revealed that during recording sessions Jackson was nothing short of perfect after three hours of warming up.
He told Starpulse: "He was in my house. It's one thing you hear rumors, but when the guy's in your house, laying on your floor as you're playing beats, he's like, 'Will.i.am, I love this beat.'
"He's laying and his feet are up on the chair, he's kicking his feet. I'm like dude, Michael Jackson's laying on my floor. He's testing his voice and three hours has passed.
"He's just mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi, mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi. He's doing both voice testing just to sing for five minutes. He's testing his voice for three hours to sing for five minutes.
"I don't know. Fergie don't do that sh*t. Usher don't do that sh*t. None of the people that you think still got it do that. I've seen it, in my house. That's because he's a perfectionist and he just likes testing his voice.
"I'm like, 'Dude, can we record now? Because it's three hours, and it's only going take five minutes.' 'No, I just want to warm it up.' Like dude, that's hot. It's warmed up. And he has it. I've seen it. He mi mi mi'd for three hours. Perfect pitch."
http://www.gigwise.com/news/50733/William-Michael-Jacksons-Voice-Is-Still-Perfect

In the multi-million dolllar documentary "This Is It," we definitely have proof how Michael was extremely protective of his voice, giving Kenny Ortega a lecture about not rushing him into singing full-out singing. Michael was 'warming up to the moment!'

Michael Jackson's This Is It - I Just Can't Stop Loving You Blu-Ray (The Best Quality Ever)


So why did so much work have to go into the "Cascio" songs, altering Michael's voice, as this was Michael's bread and butter, his perfection of his voice?
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IMO, IJCSLY in TII is one of his best live vocals ever...The ad libbing at the end especially...
 
Alicat good point. Michael was overly meticulous about his art and notice how he is firm when it comes to his music. He would not be swayed to sing out, so imagine him being happy about this controversy as they claimed he would. Something I notice too is that if you look at his face and body as he sings, he is very serious as though he is really "inside" the song and internalizing the dance moves (sort of hard to explain in words). Now would such a man appreciate this controversy? Notice how he gave in when Kenny told him to ride the cherry picker without the music, although unwillingly. However, he did not give in when it came to singing out. We all know where his priorities lie.
 
^^

Here listen to what people who work with him say and above all as from 0:10 sec listen to MJ's voice a cappella, it's pure beauty!

[youtube]0wRadhGgiRM&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
 
^^ That a cappella part....I couldn't remember where I had heard that from! I especially love the part where he sings 'Oooh baby....'...in that gorgeous falsetto while it echoes a bit...Just beautiful :)
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
^^

Here listen to what people who work with him say and above all as from 0:10 sec listen to MJ's voice a cappella, it's pure beauty!

[youtube]0wRadhGgiRM&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
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I so wish MJ performed some songs acapella.
 
I can't help thinking about Carole Bayer Sager, a prolific songwriter, who wrote the song, "It's The Falling In Love" that Michael put on his "Off The Wall" album (1979).

Carole Bayer Sager did a duet with Michael "Just Friends" (1981)
[video=youtube;gTxQ0F0Qcro]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTxQ0F0Qcro[/video]

In 2001 they worked together again and wrote a song called "You Are My Life" (Invincible) "We spent a considerable amount of time together in 2001 at my home music studio and I saw him in a totally different light – as a nurturing and caring father."

The "Ultimate Collection" (2004) had another one of their works "We've Had Enough."

Michael always worked with talented people and some for decades, like Carole Bayer Sager. So why would Michael do songs with Eddie Cascio and the work is subpar?
 
(New to the community, so I apologize if this has already been said.)

Virtually everything Eddie Cascio told us about these recording sessions has been false. The work was not done in a subpar studio (the new vocals on "WBSS 2008" and the BG vocals on "For All Time" were done in that studio) and Michael did not sound like Jason Malachi when he didn't warm up his vocals (look at the Oprah interview of '93. Impromptu rendition of "Who Is It," and he still sounded like himself.) Most of all, most of the lyrics are just... ugh... "Friend of mine, sexy wine, baby, why play me like a toy?" I can't understand why a 47-year-old man would sing that.

We're waiting, Eddie. Anything else you wanna say?
 
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Doubters waiting for Eddie to give more info on the songs.
 
Yep,we have Frank Cascio’s book about Michael.But why do we have that kind of book?
Nah,it’s not just for profit.One of the reasons that Frank wrote this book is that people accuse Cascio family cashing in on Michael like they are another Arvizo family after Michael album controversy.
Is it the first time that you know about Michael’s drug problem when you read Frank’s book?No,I don’t think so.At least people can understand the reason why Michael sometimes took drug from reading his book.
Sorry if this is a little off topic.
 
Michael paid tribute to Minnie on the back of the album sleeve: "She was phenomenal - she did things with her voice that were incredible."




This wonderful duet of Minnie Riperton and Michael Jackson was released in 1980 after Minnie's death. In this one Minnie also shows all her amazing and perfect pitch when she hits her powerful whistle notes
 
Paw;3634064 said:
Yep,we have Frank Cascio’s book about Michael.But why do we have that kind of book?
Nah,it’s not just for profit.One of the reasons that Frank wrote this book is that people accuse Cascio family cashing in on Michael like they are another Arvizo family after Michael album controversy.
Is it the first time that you know about Michael’s drug problem when you read Frank’s book?No,I don’t think so.At least people can understand the reason why Michael sometimes took drug from reading his book.
Sorry if this is a little off topic.
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I wonder how Frank would react if his father died and a friend of his father wrote a book revealing the private aspects of his life -including weed smoking- to the entire world.

Anyway, writing about friendship is ok, but he'd better have interviewed and included his brother Eddie in the book and revealed to the world how MJ recorded those 12 songs.

If that posed a problem either to Frank or Eddie, then this latter could have at least answered Joe Vogel's questions.

I'm sick of excuses how one has the time to write a whole book, and none of them had the time nor took the time to address the issue of the controversy as if nothing has been going on.
 
Something is wrong with this song. I've just found it out. Pentum, who has a PhD in Jasonmalachology, do you know what is wrong with it?

[youtube]t91KIrsEDBM[/youtube]
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Something is wrong with this song. I've just found it out. Pentum, who has a PhD in Jasonmalachology, do you know what is wrong with it?

[youtube]t91KIrsEDBM[/youtube]
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BUMPER, there are too many things that are wrong with this song :p
 
Pentum said:
BUMPER, there are too many things that are wrong with this song :p
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I am serious. There is one thing that is wrong with this song! I'd so like to know who's behind the youtube account, Jason himself?
 
The Brothers Johnson music was a turning point in Michael's life, back in the 1970's and why Michael felt it was time to leave Motown!

The Brothers Johnson's bassist, Louis Johnson, is regarded as one of the best bassists of the 20th century. His masterwork not only appears on the Brothers Johnson albums but also on Michael Jackson's albums "Off the Wall" and "Thriller" and George Benson's album "Give Me the Night". Louis personally assisted Michael with creating the bassline for his hit song "Billie Jean". And that just scratches the surface of his talent. He played the bass and bass guitar on Michael Jackson's 1991 album "Dangerous"

Light Up the Night (1980) Michael Jackson participated in the song "This Had to Be".

Michael Jackson sings Background Vocals
Track: 5

Again...it makes absolutely no sense the "Cascio" recordings. Michael was all about cutting edge and where he believed the Music Business was going. Mediocre and Michael will never be in the same sentence!
 
AliCat said:
Michael was all about cutting edge and where he believed the Music Business was going. Mediocre and Michael will never be in the same sentence!
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Could not have agreed with you more. Why would Michael, at the age of 49, sang lyrics as mediocre and cringe worthy as "taste your skin" and "play me like a toy"? It's very hard for me to imagine him singing Burn Tonight.
 
love is magical said:
Could not have agreed with you more. Why would Michael, at the age of 49, sang lyrics as mediocre and cringe worthy as "taste your skin" and "play me like a toy"? It's very hard for me to imagine him singing Burn Tonight.
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I think I can explain that. He didn't.
 
love is magical said:
Could not have agreed with you more. Why would Michael, at the age of 49, sang lyrics as mediocre and cringe worthy as "taste your skin" and "play me like a toy"? It's very hard for me to imagine him singing Burn Tonight.
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"eat your soul like a vegetable"
"mamma got you in a zigzag"
"sucking the the air from under me"
"stabbed in the back, as a matter of fact... and then his life became serious"

... genius
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
I am serious. There is one thing that is wrong with this song! I'd so like to know who's behind the youtube account, Jason himself?
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Do you mean that a part is cut out at the 1.09 mark where the record skips (can't believe I actually listened to this tripe lol)? What are you referring to Bumper?
 
AliCat said:
The Brothers Johnson music was a turning point in Michael's life, back in the 1970's and why Michael felt it was time to leave Motown!

The Brothers Johnson's bassist, Louis Johnson, is regarded as one of the best bassists of the 20th century. His masterwork not only appears on the Brothers Johnson albums but also on Michael Jackson's albums "Off the Wall" and "Thriller" and George Benson's album "Give Me the Night". Louis personally assisted Michael with creating the bassline for his hit song "Billie Jean". And that just scratches the surface of his talent. He played the bass and bass guitar on Michael Jackson's 1991 album "Dangerous"

Light Up the Night (1980) Michael Jackson participated in the song "This Had to Be".

Michael Jackson sings Background Vocals
Track: 5

Again...it makes absolutely no sense the "Cascio" recordings. Michael was all about cutting edge and where he believed the Music Business was going. Mediocre and Michael will never be in the same sentence!
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This Had To Be is one of my favorite songs EVER!
 
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