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no. Tohme lawsuit averages 20,000 a day, even the boring lawsuit file had 5,000 hits to it. This thread hasn't shown over 10 people viewing it. currently there's only 3 guests. this section now shows 9 people viewing it, trials and tribulations has 60 people viewing it. and it also depends on how many times you have refreshed it. I alone have been in this thread 15-20 times today. so it's not that surprising if someone is googling for Cascio and coming to this thread.
furthermore contentwise I don't see any reason to be happy. Assume that I have found this thread and wanted to look to the latest discussion. What do I see? Dumb and Dumber. What did you achieve with that in regards to Cascio songs?
qbee
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Dont forget my contribution SpongeBob 
I think that's why they really all came in anyway. They were googling Sponge Bob
Maybe we should stay on topic so our lurkers will take this debate serious.
I think that's why they really all came in anyway. They were googling Sponge Bob
Maybe we should stay on topic so our lurkers will take this debate serious.
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Who's getting excited? I was merely observing the change from yesterday? By the way, the increase in views of the thread doesn't mean that people are viewing the last posts with Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee. There are many more pages with much more interesting info than that. Google it and you'll find it out. It's not my fault if believers avoid my questions.
Although I don't see it as any kind of competition and I don't know why you are comparing this thread's views to Thome's lawsuit views at all, we'll see if Thome's lawsuit will have as many views as this one one year later.
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Of course not, it's completely normal to have 10 000 views in one day, it happens to all the threads.
That's what I was trying to say
The goal was to educate the public who might not know about the issue with this songs and make this a common knowledge. If I'm new and found this thread through google, I'll read the first and the last pages, I wouldn't spend time reading 1600+ pages. And if I was interested in discussion about these songs but came and saw off topic talk I wouldn't bother to participate.BUMPER SNIPPET
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I asked a few questions on topic, but they were ignored. There is no agenda or cause other than share views as they come along. If you wanna close the thread, well it's your decision, not anyone else's.
That's what I was trying to say
Umm, if you were new and googled the info you were interested in you wouldn't be directed to this particular last page, but to the keywords of the posts in any of the pages in this thread, be it page 300, 500 or 1000. What's this all of a sudden concern to get back on topic when the topic itself is contained within the 1600 pages?
Well technically all of our threads have to be on topic. We kinda relaxed on this one as we had little moderation on this thread. However if this thread will be accessible to everyone and can affect anyone's opinion about MJJC , I think that the thread has to be on topic and free of any possible defamation and insults towards the parties.
It's one thing that our members understand how this thread works, it's another a random person finds this thread and then finds a picture of monkey balls on the last page.
Anyway I said what I wanted to say.
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Don't misunderstand Gaz, we are all MJ's fans and come here for MJ, not for the Cascios, not for Malachi, not for anyone else. If you say in your own post that if we don't keep going this thread on topic and that there is a risk of closing it, what options do we have left?
By the way, aren't you glad to see more views?
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Ok, in order to get a lil bit back on topic, I'll reply to Bumpers unanswered question. I'm not a believer (and no 100% doubter), but one could argue this way (doesn't mean that this is my opinion):
MJ didn't record 12 whole songs in this short time and neary completed them. He just did it similar to his known recording habits: Trying out some tunes, looking for new material and ideas. What he actually did record are very rough ideas in an early state which he might or might not wanted to complete later.
Just the way he did it very often with his songs: Start to write/record if he/other people get nice ideas, pause for some months or years if he's not satisfied with them and maybe return to finish them.
Eddie just said this material was so good and in a nearly finished state for promition. Who would buy songs in their earliest state of completion?
So: MJ recorded hundreds of songs/ideas in his professional studio with most of them unfinished, so it's reasonable to say that he started with 12 new ones in those months at the Cascios.
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Well ok, I don't know what kind of change you had expected in only one day, but I guess I have nothing more to add, nor to propose. I'll erase my last posts with Spongebob, Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee. My proposition and my posts are probably lame I guess. Sorry Gary, but as much as I tried to infuse positivity and smile into this thread when it was let down by many, it backfires to me as if everything we discussed and posted summed up to a funny trivial picture of monkey's balls that I jokingly had posted a year ago.
I also tried to help MJJC as much as I could with reporting some dangerous ads like Scientology that appeared on MJJC banner generated by Google, helped Ginvid with her public letter against Aaron's ill promotion tarnishing MJ, translated some parts of the Murray trial into Bosnian/Croatian/Serbian languages and invested my precious time, professionally and personally, in trying to understand what happened to those Cascio tracks by sharing my views and also learning from others. I am not saying this to have any kind of thanks in return, but just to say that I was there for Michael as much as I could in any way I could despite my busy life, family life, two kids and a huge number of things that I have to deal with. I was suggesting some kind of boost when yesterday you were talking about number of views. But today it's another story: "Thome's lawsuit average is 20,000 views" and "I am not happy about 10,000 views". Well, fine, although I am getting allergic to anything and anyone that has to do with supporting the Cascios (the source of the problem) and Branca (the one who allowed the spreading of the problem), I guess my work is done here.
Bye all, if some of you want to stay in touch with me, add me as a friend on facebook BUMPER SNIPPET. In case there are other Bumper Snippets, here's my avatar on fb for the moment:
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And just a quick reply to this argument: then MJ has indeed hundreds of recorded songs in similar state, which eventually means that they could be released. But apprently it's not the case.
Bye
ADKIc3mAnX
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Evil laugh.
Okay I'm home now sorry for the creepy intro ^ I was in the bus and now I'm reading of Bumper leaving too ? This thread was fun with Doubters and Believer now it's loosing everyone.
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Interesting this is the only thread that people feel like they need to leave the whole forum when you disagree with them in regard to some issue.
Perhaps it's indeed the time to close this thread for good , if it's creating the need to leave the forum.
Perhaps it's indeed the time to close this thread for good , if it's creating the need to leave the forum.
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ADKIc3mAnX
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Please don't ever close this thread this is the way I found MJJC and it has thought me a lot about Michael Jackson and his music and so much more.
I find this thread to be the most intresting one on MJJC and even though there are not many viewers anymore it has many loyal members that keep coming back here daily.
I find this thread to be the most intresting one on MJJC and even though there are not many viewers anymore it has many loyal members that keep coming back here daily.
I really don't see the incessant need to close this thread....Like any other thread in this forum, when the topic dies down, and people don't post anymore, it just dies down, it's not then CLOSED....We've all learned a lot, contributed a lot, had a lot of fun, and made great friends...I don't see how any of THAT can be a bad thing...The off-topic posts were to blow off some steam, have fun, smile and laugh a little, and it's better than arguing or fighting...We all need a break sometimes from the inevitable drama of this thread....Obviously we've exhausted this topic, not much more to say at this time, but it's been a hot one for over a year now, and still going strong....That's saying SOMETHING....If more leaks happen, or more Cascio songs are released, we'll see it ignited again, although it's still pretty popular lol.....But to close it, no I don't think that's the answer...
azsummergirl
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AHAHA if i had a dollar for every time you've said "i think this thread can be closed once we hit ___ number of pages" i'd be rich!! what was your original goal-point? i think it was like 800 or something
hang on hang on, back it up. there's an mj pajama tribute video!?! does this still exist somewhere i could see it? that's pretty sweeeet.
let's just never close the thread. leave it up as a lasting testament to the 'michael' album and how the fans felt (and continue to feel) about it.
Chamife
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No, Spongebob or monkeyballs aren't the topic, but it's more fun to see than fans intruding in Michael's childrens lives, watching this girl's every move on twitter. Or fans who seem exactly to know what kind of disgusting person Lisa Marie Presley was and I can go on and on....insults to people in Michael's life fly around freely in other threads. But of course, that's people's opinions, and they have a right to that...:smilerolleyes:
This thread is more than silly pics. If someone is interested in this topic, I'm sure they will find the posts that are interesting to them and hopefully join the debate and/or use the information they can find on here.
It's quite an accomplishment that this thread is still alive, because there is no new information for months now. Everybody involved has their lips sealed. Like Arklove said, it will be ignited again when new songs are released for example (let's not hope so) or new info comes to light.
Why can't this thread stay open? Can't it just 'simmer' for a while?....:wink:
This thread is more than silly pics. If someone is interested in this topic, I'm sure they will find the posts that are interesting to them and hopefully join the debate and/or use the information they can find on here.
It's quite an accomplishment that this thread is still alive, because there is no new information for months now. Everybody involved has their lips sealed. Like Arklove said, it will be ignited again when new songs are released for example (let's not hope so) or new info comes to light.
Why can't this thread stay open? Can't it just 'simmer' for a while?....:wink:
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Could easily be that there are much more songs in similar state to the Cascio ones. Why weren't they released instead of Cascios? Maybe for the same reasons they chose the C-songs to appear on the last album instead of completely former unknown songs like DYKWYCA or STTR: They seemed to have more mainstream-appeal and are younger.
And I hope you won't leave this thread/MJJC forever, Bumper. I've been a lurker here for quite a long time and like your discussions with some other members. Still one of the most interesting threads here.
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We should give this topic more booty
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We should give this topic more booty
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No but seriously, I don't see how this topic will be reignited anytime soon. Unless 'new' Cascio material comes out of the blue (preferably via leaks and not on any upcoming MJ albums) then I don't see how the discussion will restart.
I chose to believe they're fake, but for the sake of the MJ fan community, I certainly hope no more Cascio tracks get an official release. I don't care if they get leaked either. If they do get leaked, people who want to hear them can look them up and come here and talk about them or whatever. But I personally wouldn't want any of them to be featured on any upcoming MJ album.
Chamife
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A good song is timeless?
And if they have more mainstream-appeal, then the reason for that is probably that they finished them in 2010 with 2010 musictechniques. That can be done with any other song, I think. It's not perse because of the lyrics or the melody.
When I first heard Breaking News, I thought it was written long before 2007, so not recently.
Lucilla
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We can all agree that Bumper is more than his jokes and he put a lot of effort in this thread, anyone affirming the contrary just want to belittle him.
Now closing the thread for good is not the answer to anything. Will only cause a huge resentment against the board, it’s easy to predict that.
Finally something we can agree on
Now closing the thread for good is not the answer to anything. Will only cause a huge resentment against the board, it’s easy to predict that.
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Finally something we can agree on
nobody did such thing btw. We were generally talking about the off topic talk coming from multiple people and Bumper decided to take it personally.