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Michael - The Great Album Debate

If this is solved, I want to send a bouquet of flowers (maybe together?) to Michael.

After that, I'm gone from everything online Michael-related.

It will be the end of a dark, but very learningful period of my life in general for me after Michael's death. Nothing to do with the Cascio songs.

But, he'll stay in my heart, like he's always been before for 34 yrs now.

I never knew him, but I know what he meant to me.

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(shall I post this? Oohh...what the heck...:cheeky:)
 
Chamife said:
If this is solved, I want to send a bouquet of flowers (maybe together?) to Michael.

After that, I'm gone from everything online Michael-related.

It will be the end of a dark, but very learningful period of my life in general for me after Michael's death. Nothing to do with the Cascio songs.

But, he'll stay in my heart, like he's always been before for 34 yrs now.

I never knew him, but I know what he meant to me.

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(shall I post this? Oohh...what the heck...:cheeky:)
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I understand what you mean. And I'll probably do the same. I've been here for ages, I've barely posted anything, except when the controversy started. Michael is part of my life, and I had nothing to say really, except once when I insulted the mofo Sneddon for which I almost got a ban back then during the trial.

Now again I feel I've been on the edge of being banned. Why? Because nobody messes with my hero Michael! Those Cascio tracks are an abomination and the Cascios all may go to hell, I don't give a damn about them. I give damn about Michael. It just angers me to see the fans defending the Cascios and forgetting that we are talking about Michael's legacy here, and not about some kind of Michael's "friends"-apprentice-producers messing up with vocals, songs, lyrics, music, and what not.
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
I understand what you mean.
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Yes, you do.
And I'll probably do the same. I've been here for ages, I've barely posted anything, except when the controversy started. Michael is part of my life, and I had nothing to say really, except once when I insulted the mofo Sneddon for which I almost got a ban back then during the trial.
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Ditto, and when he died, a tiny little piece of me and my identity also did (that's how it felt), so the Cascio songs issue has become a personal thing.

Now again I feel I've been on the edge of being banned. Why? Because nobody messes with my hero Michael! Those Cascio tracks are an abomination and the Cascios all may go to hell, I don't give a damn about them. I give damn about Michael. It just angers me to see the fans defending the Cascios and forgetting that we are talking about Michael's legacy here, and not about some kind of Michael's "friends"-apprentice-producers messing up with vocals, songs, lyrics, music, and what not.
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Exactly. I don't express half of my anger on here. Always try to be decent, but Michael=music=feelings=memories=my life. They touch that, they touch me.
 
Chamife said:
Yes, you do.

Ditto, and when he died, a tiny little piece of me and my identity also did (that's how it felt), so the Cascio songs issue has become a personal thing.


Exactly. I don't express half of my anger on here. Always try to be decent, but Michael=music=feelings=memories=my life. They touch that, they touch me.
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I feel exactly the same. Since his death a part of me died. I am still mourning. And all of sudden you have a teenage voice singing in the background "he was stabbed in the back as a matter of fact" and claims it's a MJ song! It angers me profoundly.
 
BUMPER SNIPPET;3577240 said:
I feel exactly the same. Since his death a part of me died. I am still mourning. And all of sudden you have a teenage voice singing in the background "he was stabbed in the back as a matter of fact" and claims it's a MJ song! It angers me profoundly.
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It's surreal, but it happened. And it's a damned shame.

Mourning...I'm a stable person, I'm good at putting things in perspective, but that changed after the 25th of june 2009. I thought after 42 yrs I had experienced enough to know myself, but it turned out I didn't. The death of someone who was important to you at some point in your life (someone who touched your soul, who you felt a connection with) can totally turn your life upside down. I know that now and I grew stronger from it. I've never experienced such mourning. Mourning, because Michael and his music was something I didn’t share with someone else. I always listened to him when I was alone. No one of my friends cared about his music. It was me and Michael in my little world. Hard to explain.

anyway, I can't let go of this, until it is made undone. Or at least, get to the bottom of this.
 
Cascios, you mess with Bruce Lee of music, you'll end up like Chuck Norris, don't push the buttons too far... :D

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Chamife said:
Glad she appears at all. Hope my latest posts didn't scare anyone away...:D
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Not at all! I completely relate and understand you...Michael has been a part of my life since my childhood...My childhood means everything to me...This issue that is happening isn't just a tragedy in a celebrity world...It's like my family is being attacked...

Michael has always been by my side and continues to be by my side when I need him...I will do the same for him...ALWAYS :)
 
StellaJackson said:
Agreed. It is so plainly obvious to me that it is Jason Malachi.
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Yeah. But something being "plainly ovbious" to your senses or to your imagination is not the same as that thing being true. And on a balance of probabilities, amateur singer and MJ impersonator Jason Malachi is not singing three official Michael Jackson songs on the album "Michael".
 
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Somebody said, "Why didn't they release all 12 Cascio tracks on one album"? Well, that almost happened. According to Roger Friedman -- whose word is a hundred times more important than ours in these matters, because the man personally knows the Cascio family, and has access to the eyewitnesses of the whole sessions --, several record companies tried to buy the Cascio songs, and eventually Sony got the rights. If another company had outbid them, we might have had a concurrent MJ release called "The Cascio Sessions" released at the same time as "Michael".

One last thing : I'm reading a lot of people here saying how part of them died when MJ died, and how he was a part of them, and everything. You know, it's one thing to be a fan, or even a HUGE fan, like I am, but it's another to have an almost personal, emotional relationship with a megastar you've never met. Personally, I'm a rabid fan of MJ's music, and I need to hear and know everything about his career, but I stay rationnal about it. And maybe this rationality is part of what differenciates the "believers" from the "doubters" in this matter. Some doubters feel like they are on a crusade to defend poor MJ who, in death, has been almost violated by the evil, treacherous Cascio family. None of that is based on what we know.
 
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kreen said:
Somebody said, "Why didn't they release all 12 Cascio tracks on one album"? Well, that almost happened. According to Roger Friedman -- whose word is a hundred times more important than ours in these matters, because the man personally knows the Cascio family, and has access to the eyewitnesses of the whole sessions --, several record companies tried to buy the Cascio songs, and eventually Sony got the rights. If another company had outbid them, we might have had a concurrent MJ release called "The Cascio Sessions" released at the same time as "Michael".

One last thing : I'm reading a lot of people here saying how part of them died when MJ died, and how he was a part of them, and everything. You know, it's one thing to be a fan, or even a HUGE fan, like I am, but it's another to have an almost personal, emotional relationship with a megastar you've never met. Personally, I'm a rabid fan of MJ's music, and I need to hear and know everything about his career, but I stay rationnal about it. And maybe this rationality is part of what differenciates the "believers" from the "doubters" in this matter. Some doubters feel like they are on a crusade to defend poor MJ who, in death, has been almost violated by the evil, treacherous Cascio family. None of that is based on what we know.
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What has rationality to do with hearing? I personally never felt the urge to defend Michael from anything. He was perfectly capable of defending himself.

This is about what's right and what's wrong. Nothing else.
 
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kreen said:
One last thing : I'm reading a lot of people here saying how part of them died when MJ died, and how he was a part of them, and everything. You know, it's one thing to be a fan, or even a HUGE fan, like I am, but it's another to have an almost personal, emotional relationship with a megastar you've never met. Personally, I'm a rabid fan of MJ's music, and I need to hear and know everything about his career, but I stay rationnal about it. And maybe this rationality is part of what differenciates the "believers" from the "doubters" in this matter. Some doubters feel like they are on a crusade to defend poor MJ who, in death, has been almost violated by the evil, treacherous Cascio family. None of that is based on what we know.
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You know...I'm getting a little sick of your judgmental attitude when it comes to how some of us feel about Michael and this situation...Everyone grieves differently...Everyone has different experiences when it comes to Michael and his music...I'm not gonna sit here and try to explain in further to you because this post of yours already shows you simply don't understand or you're simply trying to get a rise out of people...I don't know exactly what you're trying to achieve in your preach-like posts...

It isn't about the fact that a lot of us believe fraud has been committed...If it hasn't, the voice has been mutilated beyond recognition and this treatment of his music, his art, is a direct treatment of the man himself....Because this was a part of his soul...I will defend him until the end because he's carried me through tough times, good times etc....Do NOT tell me how to feel...
 
I have no idea what color I appear as. I'm using my phone now. Bumpy and Chamife, I know exactly what you mean. My world has become darker after June 25, 2009. It's so true that what is taken from us can never be replaced. Not a single day that goes by I don't think about Michael.
 
love is magical said:
I have no idea what color I appear as. I'm using my phone now. Bumpy and Chamife, I know exactly what you mean. My world has become darker after June 25, 2009. It's so true that what is taken from us can never be replaced. Not a single day that goes by I don't think about Michael.
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Apparently, if you haven't donated in the last 12 months, your donator privileges will be stripped...I suspect mine will be too sometime...

Your name is in blue now :D
 
Most people on this forum feel an emotional connection with Michael without ever being fortunate enough to meet him, that's the love his music conveyed, thus it's what we've given back, we can't help it. So saying people who feel that way are being irrational, obviously isn't going to go over well on a forum like this.
 
kreen said:
Somebody said, "Why didn't they release all 12 Cascio tracks on one album"? Well, that almost happened. According to Roger Friedman -- whose word is a hundred times more important than ours in these matters, because the man personally knows the Cascio family, and has access to the eyewitnesses of the whole sessions --, several record companies tried to buy the Cascio songs, and eventually Sony got the rights. If another company had outbid them, we might have had a concurrent MJ release called "The Cascio Sessions" released at the same time as "Michael".
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That would have been interesting to see if that happened..I wonder how many would people defending 'The Cascio Sessions' with all the tracks having that voice.
 
kreen said:
Somebody said, "Why didn't they release all 12 Cascio tracks on one album"?
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It was me.


kreen said:
Well, that almost happened.
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But it didn't. For whatever reason, the fact is that it didn't happen, and "almost happened" doesn't eaqual to "it happened", it equals to "it didn't happen".

kreen said:
According to Roger Friedman -- whose word is a hundred times more important than ours in these matters, because the man personally knows the Cascio family, and has access to the eyewitnesses of the whole sessions --, several record companies tried to buy the Cascio songs, and eventually Sony got the rights. If another company had outbid them, we might have had a concurrent MJ release called "The Cascio Sessions" released at the same time as "Michael".
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I'll quote Michael "I don't know whether to laugh or cry".

kreen said:
One last thing : I'm reading a lot of people here saying how part of them died when MJ died, and how he was a part of them, and everything. You know, it's one thing to be a fan, or even a HUGE fan, like I am, but it's another to have an almost personal, emotional relationship with a megastar you've never met. Personally, I'm a rabid fan of MJ's music, and I need to hear and know everything about his career, but I stay rationnal about it. And maybe this rationality is part of what differenciates the "believers" from the "doubters" in this matter. Some doubters feel like they are on a crusade to defend poor MJ who, in death, has been almost violated by the evil, treacherous Cascio family. None of that is based on what we know.
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I'll quote Eddie Cascio's 'genious' lyrics: "he was stabbed in the back, as a matter of fact".
 
Those accelerated vocals on the remix of MONSTER are noteven close to the accelerated vocals of They Don't Care About Us remix, two complete different voices:

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