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Michael - The Great Album Debate

BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Here's mine:

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What are you doing to that poor, defenceless pink... Arky, is that you!? :O
 
Jesta said:
As I've said countless times in the past, it is IMPOSSIBLE to have a discussion with people when all they do is state that they like the songs and they believe it's him. That's not CONTRIBUTING to the discussion, that's just imposing your beliefs on everyone else. Debating with this current set-up is a lost cause because - when we do get somewhere - it's immediately sidelined by those aforementioned comments. Debating is about throwing in IDEAS and THEORIES to see if they hold water. Most believer THEORIES have not. Most doubter THEORIES have at least got credibility because of RESEARCH and EXPERIMENTS done to help prove their hypothesis. I have yet to see ANY believer do this, instead opting to say "I know it's Michael Jackson. I hear him everywhere in these tracks" and "I like these songs, so you can't change my opinion". That's just not what a debate is. While some doubters act similarly, they have proven themselves before with meticulous research and have gone to great lengths to reach the conclusions they have i.e. comparisons, proof of pasted vocals etc. I am SICK and TIRED of people trying to debate when others simply recite the old tired lines which contribute NOTHING to the debate except to confirm their belief in these tracks (AS IF WE ALREADY DIDN'T KNOW FROM THE FIRST BILLION TIMES YOU TOLD US!) and to divert from any actual questioning or analysis of these tracks. At least doubters spend time answering questions from believers to demonstrate their knowledge on the topic and WHY they believe what they believe.
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It's funny how the same thing can be said for some doubters :)

Jesta - at the end of the day there will be people that you'd like to discuss with, there would be people that would get on your nerves and there would be people that absolutely bring nothing to the discussion. Like others recommended rather than leaving choose the people according to you is worth discussing and ignore the rest. It's also natural that not everyone will have the same background and strength when debating and that some might be weaker than the others.
 
ivy said:
It's funny how the same thing can be said for some doubters :)

Jesta - at the end of the day there will be people that you'd like to discuss with, there would be people that would get on your nerves and there would be people that absolutely bring nothing to the discussion. Like others recommended rather than leaving choose the people according to you is worth discussing and ignore the rest. It's also natural that not everyone will have the same background and strength when debating and that some might be weaker than the others.
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In all fairness, I did say in the next paragraph that some doubters were guilty of this as well.

And you're right Ivy, I just lost my cool and vented. It's not the mature thing to do, I know but I felt compelled to. I will take your's and Bumper's advice into consideration next time I feel on edge ;)

Billyjeanplxiv said:
So are you back for sure?
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Yep, Bumper managed to somehow convince me back... I wish I could stick to my word about leaving this place more often, but the good outweighs the bad in this circumstance. However, I have placed choice people on my ignore list to avoid dramatic statements like that again.

The show must go on.
 
If anything MJ is in the backgrounds of some of the cascio track. But the cascio vocalist vocals are layed on his, or its impossible to tell what was done.

As for lead vocals....baaaaaa

Story timmmeee


"(breaking news!) tonight we have a special report monster goats are attacking a home in new jesery. Heres and eyewitness for details"
"sir what did you see?" the reporter asked
"Well i was in my basement feeding my black widow, then my friend was in the shower singing, but before you knew it this goat was mauling everyone in sight! I told my friend to stay there. But ----- BAAAA
(the reporter and victem were mauled by a goat. That is the end of this story)
 
ivy said:
It's funny how the same thing can be said for some doubters :)

Jesta - at the end of the day there will be people that you'd like to discuss with, there would be people that would get on your nerves and there would be people that absolutely bring nothing to the discussion. Like others recommended rather than leaving choose the people according to you is worth discussing and ignore the rest. It's also natural that not everyone will have the same background and strength when debating and that some might be weaker than the others.
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Who? We want names! If we get the names we'll expel them from our holy ecclesiastic doubters community for being such heretics.
 
azsummergirl said:
I just threw up a little bit. This would be my worst nightmare...
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I see there a piece of paprica, a bit of chewed saussage, some half digested cabbage and a ball of breadroll with rice and orange juice all over.
 
If there is a 25th for the michael album (i doubt it)
There would be only 7 songs on the album
 
Imagine if they released a 12-track MJ album with only Cascio tracks! It would bve a total fiasco! They preferred to dilute the songs by inserting them among MJ's genuine songs.
 
Arklove said:
^^ There are some who would absolutely love that lol
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Well isn't it strange that so called Michael records an entire 12-track album, and instead of releasing it, they scatter the songs on different albums? :D
 
Arklove said:
^^ There are some who would absolutely love that lol
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And there are some that are so put-off by the idea that the horrific thought of listening to Justin Bieber would become more appealing...

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And no, I'm nawt kidding!
 
StellaJackson said:
Nice covenient number that 12 isn't it? They wanted a whole album that's why.
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Yup, and I am anticipating the believers argument: "yes but Michael always recorded dozens of songs, and they never ended up on the same album". Well I just wonder what is their excuse knowing that all 12 songs are to be released anyway and why not on the same album, since it's the same era?
 
BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Yup, and I am anticipating the believers argument: "yes but Michael always recorded dozens of songs, and they never ended up on the same album". Well I just wonder what is their excuse knowing that all 12 songs are to be released anyway and why not on the same album, since it's the same era?
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They won't release the rest now. I can assure you of that. Too much trouble would be caused and it's cost them too much in terms of lost sales, legal fees etc.
 
StellaJackson said:
They won't release the rest now. I can assure you of that. Too much trouble would be caused and it's cost them too much in terms of lost sales, legal fees etc.
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I pray you're right, for the future of the community. Legal fees, you mean the lawsuits that arose because of the server thefts?
 
Jesta said:
I pray you're right, for the future of the community. Legal fees, you mean the lawsuits that arose because of the server thefts?
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Yes but there's a bit more to it. I don't think I can say too much but there is hope.
 
Billyjeanplxiv said:
If anything MJ is in the backgrounds of some of the cascio track. But the cascio vocalist vocals are layed on his, or its impossible to tell what was done.

As for lead vocals....baaaaaa

Story timmmeee


"(breaking news!) tonight we have a special report monster goats are attacking a home in new jesery. Heres and eyewitness for details"
"sir what did you see?" the reporter asked
"Well i was in my basement feeding my black widow, then my friend was in the shower singing, but before you knew it this goat was mauling everyone in sight! I told my friend to stay there. But ----- BAAAA
(the reporter and victem were mauled by a goat. That is the end of this story)
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Lol

at the story I had to laugh.
 
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