Michael - The Great Album Debate

Lol I was thinking of saying that but then I went with the face and I guess you understood what I meant with it.

:)

That was funny too.

And I think you're perfectly able to 'defend' yourself.


If you had listened for 25 years and more on daily basis........,
Well I'm 20 so I couldn't .
:hysterical:

And then suddenly your start about EARBUDS??

Loooooooooollllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!

Everyone is just kidding, like Bumper said. I don't feel any negative vibes.

Carry on....
 
That was funny too.

And I think you're perfectly able to 'defend' yourself.



:hysterical:

And then suddenly your start about EARBUDS??

Loooooooooollllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!

Everyone is just kidding, like Bumper said. I don't feel any negative vibes.

Carry on....

Stay :D
 
We don't need to do anything because we know for a fact that he did not create the vibrato. Teddy worked on 3 songs. The vibrato is on all 12. He said that he caused it by speeding the vocals up on his tracks. This is not true. The same vibrato is present on the versions from before Teddy got them. And he knows that. He lied.

He said he sped up CERTAIN vocals with Melodyne which caused vibrato. It doesn't mean he claimed to have created the vibrato on the lead vocals, it could mean he created the vibrato on some of the copy-paste. Yes, don't forget that there are also copy-paste jobs that were heavily processed which also caused heavy discussions until most of the doubters agreed that they were samples but processed.

You can't just say "we know for a fact". You don't know for a fact e.g. what exactly Teddy Riley was talking about, he wasn't concrete at all. He simply said he caused some odd vibrato and I don't see why this should be a lie. He himself said he was the "finisher", so it's obvious - even to him - that he can't have created the vibrato on all lead vocals, the only thing he could have meant was the post-production that he was working on and this includes additional production including more MJ samples or processing certain vocals if he felt a need for it.
Think about how he took "Hollywood Tonight" and what he did with certain words / complete lines, e.g. changing them to create sth MJ didn't sing originally.
 
I was listening to All I Need just now and i thought, wow Malachi sounds nice. Then i remembered the song is allegedly sung by MJ.......lol win?
 
Some people find the Cascio songs beautiful, some find them awful.

As far as I am concerned I find them both: pretty awful :D
 
@Arklove

:poke:

How's your throat?

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And ears?

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Okay 1 thing you guys call him a liar but he's the person who works on these kind of things have you guys done what he did with the songs and see if you can get a vibrato created ?

"get a vibrato created"?! why in god's name would someone need to "get a vibrato created" if these songs were really michael jackson? Mj's vibrato is great. no need to "create" one.

I can't believe you can seriously write 'get a vibrato created' and not have a problem with that.

happy new year
 
"get a vibrato created"?! why in god's name would someone need to "get a vibrato created" if these songs were really michael jackson? Mj's vibrato is great. no need to "create" one.

I can't believe you can seriously write 'get a vibrato created' and not have a problem with that.

happy new year
Because I don't have a problem with the songs I like them and I really like Monster a lot.
 
Because I don't have a problem with the songs I like them and I really like Monster a lot.

How about this song, there is really a great vibrato, please liste,; it's neither Michael nor Malachi, but the vibrato is awesome :D I think you'll like it :D

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Didn't you once say Monster is the best MJ song?

No, Arklove said that. I remember when she said, how much she was vibrating each time she was listening to it. Once they took her to (psychiatric) hospital to calm her down, cuz she was euphoric after listening to Monster.
 
*returning briefly*

Happy New Year everyone!! I hope 2012 will bring the ultimate end of this issue by either exposing this fraud or having evidence that poor, POOR vocal tracks have been released. Either way, I hope it ends next year!! I know that this topic is mostly subjective, but someone's love or hate of these songs should NEVER get in the way of what the vocals SOUND like. Just because you like/hate something doesn't mean it isn't possible of being fraudulent. The Estate needs to give us answers, and not in incredibly vague statements. We are in arguably one of the biggest MJ fan clubs in the world, isn't it reasonable to believe that Gaz not only has contact with the Estate, but can get these questions out to them so they can put our minds at rest or confirm our fears?

And with that, I'm once again out. See ya guys when things are a bit more hospitable and there's something new to discuss rather than one's personal opinions of the songs and just going through what we know already just to reaffirm things.
 
No, Arklove said that. I remember when she said, how much she was vibrating each time she was listening to it. Once they took her to (psychiatric) hospital to calm her down, cuz she was euphoric after listening to Monster.

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If Monster is the Best MJ song, then BillieJean is the best Malachi song.

I disagree. Fall in love is Michael's best masterpiece ever!

*returning briefly*

Happy New Year everyone!! I hope 2012 will bring the ultimate end of this issue by either exposing this fraud or having evidence that poor, POOR vocal tracks have been released. Either way, I hope it ends next year!! I know that this topic is mostly subjective, but someone's love or hate of these songs should NEVER get in the way of what the vocals SOUND like. Just because you like/hate something doesn't mean it isn't possible of being fraudulent. The Estate needs to give us answers, and not in incredibly vague statements. We are in arguably one of the biggest MJ fan clubs in the world, isn't it reasonable to believe that Gaz not only has contact with the Estate, but can get these questions out to them so they can put our minds at rest or confirm our fears?

And with that, I'm once again out. See ya guys when things are a bit more hospitable and there's something new to discuss rather than one's personal opinions of the songs and just going through what we know already just to reaffirm things.

Welcome back Jesta. I was just wondering where you have disappeared. Happy New Year to you too! I think you are secretely enjoying the Cascio songs, that's why you are not coming inhere any more. :D
 
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