Michael - The Great Album Debate

[Pentum]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

"Ha!" Comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mQd6ohNOY

I took all the MJ songs I could think of with a "Ha!" in it. Judge for yourself. I personally think it's Jason doing the "Ha!". If not, I would think it's from Unbreakable and not 2 Bad like Korgnex pointed out.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

^ Nice one. :yes:

"2 Bad" has an additional "mmmm" in the left channel plus a strong beat. Concentrate on the "Haa!" alone.

 

[MJRemixed]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

I love yoghurt

 

[MJRemixed]

What the hell is wrong with you? Please stop this "KGB" nonsense. It's disrespectful. And who is "she"? Are you full of conspiracy theories now or what?
And I thought you to be a cool guy. Don't turn this into a personal war against me just because you disagree with me.





Boy, that is simply arrogant. What you hear is the work of Teddy Riley that added the "Haa!". It's nowhere in the Cascio files.

Well if you had heard the rest of the raw cascio demo's before teddy got his hands on them you would know that that HA is used in more than one song. Teddy didn't add it because the cascios added ALREADY.
So you have clearly just proved you have no idea what your're talking about dear.
So as I said, continue with your KGB interrogation with members of this board, keep begging and you might get somewhere.

"She" ?? you don't know she?
Haha this is fun.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

Well if you had heard the rest of the raw cascio demo's before teddy got his hands on them you would know that that HA is used in more than one song. Teddy didn't add it because the cascios added ALREADY.

FYI: You are not listening to raw Cascio demos, you are listening to the work of producers Teddy Riley and others.

So you have clearly just proved you have no idea what your're talking about dear.

You have done so. You are the first person to attack me like this on a public forum.

So as I said, continue with your KGB interrogation with members of this board, keep begging and you might get somewhere.

Ridiculous. You don't know how that person thinks about me and you don't know how we talked to each other like.

You are totally full of anger and paranoia.

Who are you to make such claims?

"She" ?? you don't know she?
Haha this is fun.

If you just had the courage to say who you mean by "she".

The only person I can think of is "tak". And "tak" knows zilch, just sold 8 stolen tracks and has zero info about the Cascios at all. She was arrested apparently as far as known.
I have no idea what the hell "she fed you a lie" shall mean. And you think to know more about another person (me) than this other person (me) knows about oneself.
How on earth can you be so arrogant?






MJRemixed, I would never ever have expected you to be such a person.

 

[MJRemixed]

FYI: You are not listening to raw Cascio demos, you are listening to the work of producers Teddy Riley and others
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You have done so. You are the first person to attack me like this on a public forum.




Ridiculous. You don't know how that person thinks about me and you don't know how we talked to each other like.

You are totally full of anger and paranoia.

Who are you to make such claims?




If you just had the courage to say who you mean by "she".

The only person I can think of is "tak". And "tak" knows zilch, just sold 8 stolen tracks and has zero info about the Cascios at all. She was arrested apparently as far as known.
I have no idea what the hell "she fed you a lie" shall mean. And you think to know more about another person (me) than this other person (me) knows about oneself.
How on earth can you be so arrogant?






MJRemixed, I would never ever have expected you to be such a person.

Again,for a second time, you just demonstrated you don't know those songs.
Thankyou for demonstrating that so publically.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

Sending you a PM. Please stop these public allegations. You don't know anything about me.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

How about his death? It's homicide.

and it really surprises me to come and see some only focusing and posting on this issue non-stop but do not even care about his homicide.

The only reason I wrote that I thought that the initial post included every attack on Michael and I believe that comparing the vocals to his death was not acceptable.

If that's not what Kapital meant (as he corrected his previous statement) and that we all agree that vocals cannot be compared to his death then I'm taking back my statement as well. It's all good.

Pronouncing the word "e-x-c-u-s-e" must be terribly difficult I presume.

I promised not to debate any more here, and I am not going to debate, but this is not a debate, it's a clear attack on people who post here.

As far as I am concerned, the huge majority of my posts, probably around 90% of my posts are concentrated in this thread, not because I do not care about homicide, but because there is nothing you can do to bring Michael back and the case IS being taken care of in court, contrary to this Cascio issue. Moreover, releasing questionable tracks are to be debated after his homicide in the forum as it is not debated in the courtroom. And now someone is going to tell me that I do not care about Michael's death? I had never cried and grieved so long for anyone else's death and you are telling me that we don't care.

So far I could accept the fact that you haven't excused yourself for publicly calling me/revealing names I was called in the reports for so called insults, but this is untolerable coming from a staff of this board.

Ban me I don't care any more.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

No, please, BUMPER SNIPPET, don't leave the forum. I'm sure whatever the issue between ivy and you is, it can be resolved.

You're not on the same side than me regarding the Cascio discussion but fans shouldn't fight against each other.
We are all fans and we must hold together.

 

[Kapital77]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

Bumper, you will always have my support.

 

[Kapital77]

FYI: You are not listening to raw Cascio demos, you are listening to the work of producers Teddy Riley and others.

Are you telling me that Teddy put those adlibs and made the "a capella" version of Breaking news?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqgIi3tUEwU

And Korgnex, i don´t enjoy attacking you, but i can´t believe that you think it´s not Malachi.

Don´t you see it´s his voice?.

Please, i am telling you as a friend and i know that you know so much about MJ music, Do you really believe it´s not Malachi after heard the comparisions?.

 

[Arklove]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Controversy)

Pronouncing the word "e-x-c-u-s-e" must be terribly difficult I presume.

I promised not to debate any more here, and I am not going to debate, but this is not a debate, it's a clear attack on people who post here.

As far as I am concerned, the huge majority of my posts, probably around 90% of my posts are concentrated in this thread, not because I do not care about homicide, but because there is nothing you can do to bring Michael back and the case IS being taken care of in court, contrary to this Cascio issue. Moreover, releasing questionable tracks are to be debated after his homicide in the forum as it is not debated in the courtroom. And now someone is going to tell me that I do not care about Michael's death? I had never cried and grieved so long for anyone else's death and you are telling me that we don't care.

So far I could accept the fact that you haven't excused yourself for publicly calling me/revealing names I was called in the reports for so called insults, but this is untolerable coming from a staff of this board.

Ban me I don't care any more.

Agreed...... It's highly insulting to insinuate that one doesn't care about Michael's death because they focus on the debate issue. I would never say that to a fellow fan. Ever.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

Are you telling me that Teddy put those adlibs and made the "a capella" version of Breaking news?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqgIi3tUEwU

Kapital, the leaked a cappella is an alternate cut (very close to the one on the album) from the newly created multi-tracks, already finished for release. And yes, it was made by Teddy Riley and assistants working on the track in 2010. This is far from the original state. It was leaked by a studio employee who believes it's Michael.



Kapital, we're on page 542 now. You should know what I think. Especially because I know so much about MJ music, thanks for that compliment.
However I wouldn't say you or others would know less because I cannot know and have no right to claim so.
People can have different opinions and people can hear different things.

 

[Kapital77]

But your friend, C.Cadman, knows more than you and me and he thinks it´s not MJ.

LOL !!!

However, you know that i think it´s Malachi and i will never change in my position and my attack against those tracks.

Hope it will not be a painful journey.

Regards.

 

[Korgnex]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

My friend Chris Cadman doesn't know more than me. And yes, he thinks differently.

 

[Kapital77]

By the way, i want all of you to recheck how Roger Friedman tried that Quincy say it´s Michael on "Breaking news".

He tried, tried so hard: "It´s sounds just like Michael", "The melody it´s very Michaelish", "You can here the signature in the song", "It´s Michael signature, it´s Michael....", "I thinks it is". :doh:

[youtube]A7WuVNZh0LI[/youtube]

But he couldn´t....

This is another proof of how Roger Friedman supported those tracks and supported the Cascio´s family. He supported those tracks since the first moment, everyday he was pushing in his webpage that those tracks were real and that the voice was perfect.

After all he said against MJ in the past, How could Roger Friedman want to defend the Mj music in that moment?.

How could a journalist don´t want to say that those tracks were fake?. What it´s the reason to defend those tracks if he could make more money saying that those tracks are fake?.

There is a new Cascio track for Roger Friedman:

"ALL 4 MONEY".

 

[love is magical]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

So, are we all conspiracy theorists? this is my first time at the conspiracy sub-forum. i just eyeballed the name of threads. this thread does not fit here.

 

[Kapital77]

For me, love is magical, there is no problem.

I am proud of what i am doing, if others don´t want to talk about it..... good for them.

Someday the truth will came out, don´t worry, it´s a matter of time.

 

[Pentum]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

So, are we all conspiracy theorists? this is my first time at the conspiracy sub-forum. i just eyeballed the name of threads. this thread does not fit here.

Yeah, we are.

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

So, are we all conspiracy theorists? this is my first time at the conspiracy sub-forum. i just eyeballed the name of threads. this thread does not fit here.

For me, love is magical, there is no problem.

I am proud of what i am doing, if others don´t want to talk about it..... good for them.

Someday the truth will came out, don´t worry, it´s a matter of time.

Yeah, we are.

More than 50% of MJ fans must be conspiracy theorists I guess.

 

[love is magical]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

whatever. i guess it's better than having this thread closed all together...

 

[Kapital77]

In the Spanish forum, i am member since 2001, i can say and i can talk whatever i wan t about the fake tracks or other thing, i have my signature, my avatar, and there is no problem to say that those tracks are fake.

I don´t have to feel bad with myself for tell what i am feel about those tracks. Nobody will tell me that it´s a conspiracy, etc..

The most part of people of that forum believe it´s not Michael on the Cascio´s tracks.

And there is also a GREAT POST to talk about the evidences of fake tracks on the "MICHAEL" album.

It´s the less we can do to fight against this fraud.

 

[Arklove]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

It's clear where we stand with others....:smilerolleyes: Gotta love the alienation.

 

[love is magical]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

now that we are all conspiracy theorists. does it mean people who come here are less sensitive? i mean some people get offended by nothing before.

 

[azsummergirl]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

if there was a "factual facts" sub-forum, i'm pretty sure the Great Album Debate would belong there, not in the conspiracy. 2bad that doesn't exist.

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

Until something, which is being speculated, is proven with objective, undisputed facts, it's a conspiracy. Hence, why it's here. There's a lot of things that consist in the death hoax discussions that would be considered "factual facts", but the only fact is, is that many of it isn't facts at all. Many of what you claim aren't facts at all, which is why this is a conspiracy theory.


There's a 90% chance those "Ha's" are from previous Michael songs, after listening to those comparisons, the one in Monster and another song sounds identical, just pitched. Which is the same thing they did with the "hee-hee's" from ITC on Breaking News and some called it the "worst hee-hee ever to be used by an impersonator".

 

[BUMPER SNIPPET]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

Until something, which is being speculated, is proven with objective, undisputed facts, it's a conspiracy. Hence, why it's here. There's a lot of things that consist in the death hoax discussions that would be considered "factual facts", but the only fact is, is that many of it isn't facts at all. Many of what you claim aren't facts at all, which is why this is a conspiracy theory.

I guess that communities of believers going to synagogues, churches, mosques and all the temples around the world are conspiracy theorists as they also can't prove anything.

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

To some people they are, but aside from that these people have historic biblical texts that backs their belief. No matter, how true it is, it's been taught and handed down generations to generations, it's their way of life, therefore to most people they have reason for believing what they do. There's nothing of the sort that says Malachi is on these records, so what exactly is your point?

 

[Dorian]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

Which is the same thing they did with the "hee-hee's" from ITC on Breaking News and some called it the "worst hee-hee ever to be used by an impersonator".

That hee-hee seems like the one at the end of Privacy.

 

[AnnieRUOkay89]

Re: Michael - The Great Album Debate (Only Go Here if You Want To Continue The Conspiracy)

Could be, I know one of them are sampled from ITC though, I believe it's the first one that's heard throughout the record.