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Michael - The Great Album Debate

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Ah I'm dying to hear these songs! Is there any information at all on the content of the other songs (Titles, styles, beats, vocals, lyrics) that you can possibly share?

Thanks for all this btw its all much appreciated by everyone I'm sure :D
 
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ivy said:
Think like this - you have Michael's vocals left on your phone machine. Do you take them to the record company as is , or do you try to make them better so that they could be more presentable.
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It's Michael Fu*king Jackson we are talking about. You don't mess up Michael's vocals. I would present to the record lable as is. He's no up-and-comer. His distinctive voice means $$$$$$$$.... It's not like people need to convince the head of the record label the voice is good enough for a contract. It's the other way around. People fight for Michael's vocals. People fight for every bit of his voice available.

Even if the vocals need to be processed, why layered with so many different takes.
 
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Is what you have heard in circulation online? Or did you hear it privately? It seems only a matter of time before everything gets leaked.
 
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Jesta said:
So if "Water" is very similar to "Water" from "This Is It", does that shed a light, even a tiny one, of credibility on these tracks?
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Possibly so, unless water was recorded after This Is It???

The other thing is, recently a music only track called Water was registered by The Estate, with no credit to the Cascios I think. Which is strang ebecause the songs from the Cascios existed before Michael got there, he just supposedly re-wrote them. Anyhow they could also be 2 different songs but we might never know.
 
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Does anyone know if Teddy Riley worked on all 12 songs?
 
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But if they were recorded after "This Is It", why sing the word water 2 times as opposed to the three in "This Is It"? If they were really trying to convince you that these fakes were real, surely they'd make the song exact to what was heard in the film, well the chorus at least.

Tricky Stewart worked on "Keep Your Head Up" and "Stay". Burt Bacharach worked on "All I Need", I believe.
 
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Birchey - in your opinion, based on what you have heard, do you beleive it is Michael singing the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks or Jason Cupeta? (real name of Malachi)
 
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Jesta said:
But if they were recorded after "This Is It", why sing the word water 2 times as opposed to the three in "This Is It"? If they were really trying to convince you that these fakes were real, surely they'd make the song exact to what was heard in the film, well the chorus at least.
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Thats something I cant answer, but the third water on TII fades out, on the cascio track there is a third work on the recording in the same pattern as TII its the first syllabel "drown" in the word "Drowning"
 
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Friends. The Cascios. My a$$! All was always about the money! As I feared, they weren't taking advantage of MJ when he was around, today, that Mike isn't around, their pockets are full of money thanks to dishonest procedures!
 
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biohazard4 said:
Birchey - in your opinion, based on what you have heard, do you beleive it is Michael singing the lead vocals on the Cascio tracks or Jason Cupeta? (real name of Malachi)
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I am 99% sure its Jason, or a Jason Malachi inpersonator XD
 
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:no: :no:
 
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Thing is too, these songs are absolute rip-offs from MJ previous material, they have been purposely made to sound like an MJ song, desperatly
 
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Thanks for the answers, Birchey. Despite me not agreeing with your opinion, your knowledge has been incredibly enlightening.
 
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Birchey said:
I am 99% sure its Jason, or a Jason Malachi inpersonator XD
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So we're not deaf. Thanks for answering my question via biohazard.
 
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What someone needs to do is to establish a direct link between Cascio and Cupeta. I'm sure that can be done. I've got pretty close but hit a wall.
 
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I feel very emotional now. It's a mixuture of sadness, frustration, helplessness, anger...

I can't believe it. This is ridiculous.
 
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I pray that the liars behind this fraud are exposed for what they are. Anything for money. Thank you so much birchey for sharing what you have learned with us.
 
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love is magical said:
I feel very emotional now. It's a mixuture of sadness, frustration, helplessness, anger...

I can't believe it. This is ridiculous.
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I know..I feel the same...I don't even know what to say :no:
 
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According to the Thriller 25 credits, Michael did record at the Cascio's for WBSS 2008. I'm pretty sure that the original Porte versions of these tracks would have been presented to him at that time. So the question is; what happened next? Exactly what did Michael contribute? He was there for almost three months....
 
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Birchey said:
Those reasons alone flare up massive concern. Firstly Michael was there for over 2 Months, yet they say they only have telephone vocals, secondly, if they did make them more presentable to Sony and at the same time tell them they did, and that they are from a telephone, why didn't they hand over any of the raw vocals? Its not like they were a secret to Sony/Riley.
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who is that "they" who say they have telephone vocals? I just made up a hypothetical example saying "if he left a phone message wouldn't you try to improve its quailty?".

suddenly we have telephone vocals and I never heard anyone claiming telephone vocals before.
 
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Arklove said:
I know..I feel the same...I don't even know what to say :no:
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Continue to resist SONY's brainwashing!

The fans who believe it's MJ, are not deaf, but have been deceived by SONY as they put their trust in them.

I am happy that we managed to stay in this thread untill something seemingly tangible has come up, such as Birchey's info.

Let's hope we have some more info and spread the news and stand united against the fraud.
 
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Did the Estate know about all these shaddy business? Did they just turn a blind eye?

This is very upsetting.
 
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BUMPER SNIPPET said:
Continue to resist SONY's brainwashing!

The fans who believe it's MJ, are not deaf, but have been deceived by SONY as they put their trust in them.

I am happy that we managed to stay in this thread untill something seemingly tangible has come up, such as Birchey's info.

Let's hope we have some more info and spread the news and stand united against the fraud.
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My stomach is just in knots right now :puke:
 
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I wish Pentum is here now. He so tiredlessly complied those voice comparisions. All along, he knew what he is doing.
 
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According to an earlier post by Birchey, the names of all 12 Cascio tracks are:

All I Need
All Right
Black Widow
Breaking News
Burn 2 Night
Fall In Love
Keep Your Head Up
Monster
Ready 2 Win
Soldier Boy
Stay
Water

I'm curious to know what the lyrics of the other tracks are like.
 
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love is magical said:
I wish Pentum is here now. He so tiredlessly complied those voice comparisions. All along, he knew what he is doing.
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Surely. That's why we were all here. It was so obvious. I mean it is so obvious. From the very beginning we were suspecting the mess. For example "let me let go" ressembles "monster" vocally speaking and the comparisons Pentium was making were strikingly and alarmingly similar.
 
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Here is another expert's take but he think it's MJ though

However, there are many parts of this song where every other word is cut from a different take. If they hired Malachi, there would be no need to do this as he could've recorded those lines straight through. Most engineers and producers will universally agree that this sort of cutting is a last resort technique that's only used when the artist is unavailable to re-record takes.

source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AQH4slc7tE&feature=related
 
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biohazard4 said:
According to the Thriller 25 credits, Michael did record at the Cascio's for WBSS 2008. I'm pretty sure that the original Porte versions of these tracks would have been presented to him at that time. So the question is; what happened next? Exactly what did Michael contribute? He was there for almost three months....
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He recorded the backing vocals there, his lead's were done elsewhere.
 
Birchey, thanks for telling us your truth, we were no wrong with the things that we said.

It´s Jason Malachi.

Now, many will try to take down what you have said in this post, they will try to shut up your voice and they will try to put you in the same position as 3T, The Jackson Family, Tony Kurtis and the rest of people who said it´s Jason Malachi.
 
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