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Michael - The Great Album Debate

I honestly think if Michael had done the Cascio songs and they'd been reworked a little bit, with his touch, they would be good MJ songs. I can't help myself but dance a little bit to Monster and Breaking News, even when Alex does them, however I can't help but feel ill about the deception which really sucks. I just enjoy the harmonies and stuff sometimes. But I will never like "Everybody wantin' a piece of Michael Jackson, reporters stalkin' the moves of Michael Jackson". Those are some of the worst lyrics ever...
 
Aniram said:
I honestly think if Michael had done the Cascio songs and they'd been reworked a little bit, with his touch, they would be good MJ songs. I can't help myself but dance a little bit to Monster and Breaking News, even when Alex does them, however I can't help but feel ill about the deception which really sucks. I just enjoy the harmonies and stuff sometimes. But I will never like "Everybody wantin' a piece of Michael Jackson, reporters stalkin' the moves of Michael Jackson". Those are some of the worst lyrics ever...
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I agree; musically the Cascios aren't ALL bad. Breaking News is a well-produced new jack swing inspired jam, and I feel some regret admitting that I adore Stay and listen to it regularly. (They're listed as Jason Malachi tracks on my iTunes playlist though.)

But that still begs the question: WOULD Michael have recorded these songs in London? It's no question that a majority of the fan base think that they're awful songs, but just because we don't like them doesn't mean Michael wouldn't/didn't. (Keep in mind that he willingly and knowingly released Privacy, a song most people hate but I love.) If anything I would love to hear Michael sing Stay; I can imagine him bringing such soul and power to that song.
 
AlwaysThere said:
But that still begs the question: WOULD Michael have recorded these songs in London?
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:scratch:
Didn't MJ say a few times in This Is It that he didn't want to sing in the rehearsals because he was taking care of his voice?
I wonder if he would record anything during his concerts then. I don't know if he did that before ...
 
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AlwaysThere said:
I agree; musically the Cascios aren't ALL bad. Breaking News is a well-produced new jack swing inspired jam, and I feel some regret admitting that I adore Stay and listen to it regularly. (They're listed as Jason Malachi tracks on my iTunes playlist though.)

But that still begs the question: WOULD Michael have recorded these songs in London? It's no question that a majority of the fan base think that they're awful songs, but just because we don't like them doesn't mean Michael wouldn't/didn't. (Keep in mind that he willingly and knowingly released Privacy, a song most people hate but I love.) If anything I would love to hear Michael sing Stay; I can imagine him bringing such soul and power to that song.
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Thing is, those versions are not how they really sounded, the music on Breaking News and Stay was redone by Teddy Riley and Tricky Stewart respectively.

I've no doubt Michael told Eddie that he would record the songs in London, which would explain why Angelo Montrone was prepping the tracks (minus Mj vocals of course) just before Michael died. When it came to it, I doubt he ever would and if he did then I highly doubt they would have made any future release.
 
StellaJackson said:
Thing is, those versions are not how they really sounded, the music on Breaking News and Stay was redone by Teddy Riley and Tricky Stewart respectively.

I've no doubt Michael told Eddie that he would record the songs in London, which would explain why Angelo Montrone was prepping the tracks (minus Mj vocals of course) just before Michael died. When it came to it, I doubt he ever would and if he did then I highly doubt they would have made any future release.
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I know of that, I've heard the 'work in progress' snippets :p But I prefer the album versions/release candidate versions to the original recordings. (Except for Stay... the original mix is pretty damn good.)
 
suziem said:
3 Jason Malachi covers, Could this be the world first Malachi impersonator? he did about as much justice to Jason as Jason did to MJ, but well done Alex :)
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lol no, there was another european guy who impersonated Jason. He was "Metis77" or something and he did brief snippets of I Can Make It and You Are My Life in 2009. After some Cascio tracks leaked, he also did Stay. He had a very similar goat vibrato to Jason but he had an accent.

And also Matthew Najar did some impersonations of Jason and claimed to have sang in Jason's songs. Pretty close to Jason in the beginning but other than it is quite different. He also faked a few videos such as miming to a pitch-altered Breaking News acapella. For his own songs though, he sings with a higher voice and quite different.


Anyways,
All the news today, they say we're crazayyyy...
(celebertayyy)

The original Stay sounds interesting, I think there's some audience noise near the end.

If Water and the other tracks were released they would probably sound very different. All I Need demo sounds like Imagine and has this unplugged feel while the Burt Bacharach production has a choir and drums.
 
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NOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOO!!! This thread went past 2000 pages!!! This is almost as insane as Obama getting re-elected! This is almost as insane as Mitt Romney! This is almost as insane as the Cascio fiasco! This is almost as insane as Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, George Bush, Bill Clinton, John McCain and John Kerry combined! This is almost as insane as this thread! This is almost as insane as how quickly rodents reproduce! This is almost as insane as insane people! This is almost as insane as the child molestation charges! This is almost as insane as jumping off a building to find out what it feels like to hit pavement at an accelerated rate! This is almost as insane as sitting at home watching TV all day and defecating in a bucket even when you could easily stand up and walk to the restroom during the commercials! This is almost as insane as eating ketchup with your pancakes instead of syrup! This is almost as insane as the Super Mario Bros. movie! This is almost as insane as eating your own foot! This is almost as insane as drinking water with your nose! This is almost as insane as texting someone in the same room as yourself! This is almost as insane as sleeping your entire life because you're afraid of being awake! This is almost as insane as wearing sunglasses 24/7 because you think it's cool, you even sleep with them because you don't want anyone to come in the middle of the night and see you not wearing your sunglasses! This is almost as insane as never brushing your teeth because you don't like the color white and like to save the food in your teeth for later! This is almost as insane as making a map of the world that warps all the sizes of the countries and repositions them so nothing is accurate! This is almost as insane as getting married to someone you've known for twenty minutes! This is almost as insane as calling Michael Jackson the next Justin Bieber! I could go on, but I won't. This is just insane!
 
AlwaysThere said:
I agree; musically the Cascios aren't ALL bad. Breaking News is a well-produced new jack swing inspired jam, and I feel some regret admitting that I adore Stay and listen to it regularly. (They're listed as Jason Malachi tracks on my iTunes playlist though.)

But that still begs the question: WOULD Michael have recorded these songs in London? It's no question that a majority of the fan base think that they're awful songs, but just because we don't like them doesn't mean Michael wouldn't/didn't. (Keep in mind that he willingly and knowingly released Privacy, a song most people hate but I love.) If anything I would love to hear Michael sing Stay; I can imagine him bringing such soul and power to that song.
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i Love 'Privacy', and that's Michael's own baby. And it can't be determined that a lot of people hated it, because it didn't hamper Invincible's massive sales, despite no help on promotion, from Sony. There are a lot of people that are missed in the count, of people liking or disliking a song, and unlike the Cascio stuff, Invincible is a proven and durable big time multi platinum winning album.
 
Aniram said:
NOOOOOoooooOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooOOOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOOOOOO!!! This thread went past 2000 pages!!! This is almost as insane as Obama getting re-elected! This is almost as insane as Mitt Romney! This is almost as insane as the Cascio fiasco! This is almost as insane as Michelle Bachman, Herman Cain, George Bush, Bill Clinton, John McCain and John Kerry combined! This is almost as insane as this thread! This is almost as insane as how quickly rodents reproduce! This is almost as insane as insane people! This is almost as insane as the child molestation charges! This is almost as insane as jumping off a building to find out what it feels like to hit pavement at an accelerated rate! This is almost as insane as sitting at home watching TV all day and defecating in a bucket even when you could easily stand up and walk to the restroom during the commercials! This is almost as insane as eating ketchup with your pancakes instead of syrup! This is almost as insane as the Super Mario Bros. movie! This is almost as insane as eating your own foot! This is almost as insane as drinking water with your nose! This is almost as insane as texting someone in the same room as yourself! This is almost as insane as sleeping your entire life because you're afraid of being awake! This is almost as insane as wearing sunglasses 24/7 because you think it's cool, you even sleep with them because you don't want anyone to come in the middle of the night and see you not wearing your sunglasses! This is almost as insane as never brushing your teeth because you don't like the color white and like to save the food in your teeth for later! This is almost as insane as making a map of the world that warps all the sizes of the countries and repositions them so nothing is accurate! This is almost as insane as getting married to someone you've known for twenty minutes! This is almost as insane as calling Michael Jackson the next Justin Bieber! I could go on, but I won't. This is just insane!
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Be careful on the sunglasses one.
 
AlwaysThere;3734988 said:
30,000 posts, and we've gotten nowhere yet.
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I think you are wrong.

Maybe this thread it´s not in the main section, like it should, but it helped many fans to know what´s happening with MJ music legacy.

This thread helped many fans to know who sung on those tracks from Eddie Cascio & Porte and i believe this post it´s the best example of how MJ fans love Michael Jackson and fight for the only one TRUTH (*).

(*) Jason Malachi sung on all the Cascio´s tracks.
 
And all my pictures with animals; like monkeys etc, were extremely helpful to understand the very nature that had driven those to fabricate the songs :D
 
ivy said:
honest question - did you really expect to get anywhere on a thread?
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suziem said:
Well, to be honest, alot of the information people have gone and found and provided in this thread has helped alot. Information which has led to some of us going deeper into this situation. But sadly there will be no need for a debate thread in the coming months, you'll have your answer.
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This thread is a part of a huge network and people who are interested in this subject know how to find it. News is shared rapidly on Facebook, Twitter and other forums.

So it's not just this thread. It's all over the internet, like I said, a network.

When the right person reads the right thing, you never know what can happen.

Expect it: No

Hope for it: Yes
 
Let's not forget that this thread is this long because the believers are in total denial. (No offense, just joking :) Love you all :) )
 
Awwww.......

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Oh, and of course Nasty.......let's have a:

original
 
suziem said:
Well, to be honest, alot of the information people have gone and found and provided in this thread has helped alot. Information which has led to some of us going deeper into this situation. But sadly there will be no need for a debate thread in the coming months, you'll have your answer.
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Ohhhh yes. We are a lot further forward than we were two years ago. Just nobody knows about it. Yet.
 
Frankyboy5 said:
lol no, there was another european guy who impersonated Jason. He was "Metis77" or something and he did brief snippets of I Can Make It and You Are My Life in 2009. After some Cascio tracks leaked, he also did Stay. He had a very similar goat vibrato to Jason but he had an accent.
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Care to elaborate? Links?
 
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