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Michael Jackson's Marriage Heartbreak: Lisa Marie Didn't Want Children

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terrell said:
There is no doubt that Michael and Lisa Marie loved each other, passionately and fervently-------- Oh please, no they did not, if so, LMP would have children with him, they would have lived together and it would have lasted longer than a year along with other things.
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Actually, Michael and Lisa Marie DID live together, but in HER home in LA, not in Michael's Neverland Ranch.
 
For me most important thing is that he loved her and she loved him and that was REAL relationship.
Rest of those things is actualy history.
Media was so mean for them...!
 
the media played a BIG role in destroying this marriage, that's for sure. assholes without a conscience, that's what they are. I am beginning to really hate them for who they are. ugh.
 
terrell said:
Sorry but I am NOT going to blame this on Priscilla. Like I said, LMP has her OWn mind and and tends to do what SHE want to do regardless to what her mother says. LMP is no wallflower.
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But that doesn't mean that she didn't listen to her mother at all. They seem close, and someone close to you badmouthing someone will have some effect...
 
All those false stories about their marriage and all those rummors that was fake etc etc..
Oh... that was disgusting!!!!
There were in love..
 
A same this shouldn't even be address to the public this man is so damn corny. At the end of the day prince, paris and lil MJ are here what is the big deal over Lisa and MJ loved yes they loved each other its none of his dude business to be addressing this out to the media cause the media is going to try to ragged lisa she always going through it with her nanny talking side ways about her she doesn't need this right now she has children too come on I can't stand that Rabbiqueen go sit the hell down some where. after he did larry king live I have no respect for that clown saying he very angry with Michael such a stupid man he knew them drugs will kill him mothafucka please
 
If you think in the past, you live in the past.

It was 13 years ago get the F*CK over it!!!
 
My 2 cents here...

IMO Lisa dropped the ball BIG TIME because:

1. She promised him to have kids knowing that's what he wanted more than anything and she went back that promise.
2. She said all she could see was the custody battle in the future, thus subconsciously saying that she knew they wouldn't last (which was also very important to Michael).
3. When Michael said to her that if she doesn't want to have his baby, Debbie will, she with her sarcastic behind told him to go ahead.

She really thought Michael was a big ball of mush/pushover and couldn't stand up to her or stand his ground about things. No doubt he loved her yes, but he wasn't going to let her come in and dictate his life on her grounds. He could be as firm as a 100 year old tree and stubborn as a mule when he wanted to be.

I think as far as Michael is concerned:

1. He felt utterly betrayed by her flip flopping on him.
2. He was sick of waiting and wanted babies...like yesterday.
3. He could see by her "custody battle" fears that she wasn't as committed as he'd hoped and she did not hold a future vision of them together (so in effect what did he have to lose if she was calling it on their future already?).

I do believe they loved each other very much and from what little I know I believe he had his greatest romantic connection with her out of all the women in his life. That said, even if Michael hadn't had the kids with Debbie I don't know if his relationship with Lisa would have worked out because it seems that Lisa only felt/knew certain things about Michael AFTER the fact.

She couldn't fathom that he could be a good father till AFTER Price was born and she wouldn't admit to herself and others how much she truly loved him until AFTER he was dead.

Too little too late.

One more thing....Lisa Marie isn't a strong person. She just pretends to be. It's her facade. She acts like a rebel without a cause when it comes to her mother, but believe me....check behind the scenes and you'll see that Lisa cares very much about what her mother has to say and always has. When she was taking stabs at her mom over the years, it's just her trying to get a rise out of her, just like a rebellious teen would do.

I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of her "feelings" about Michael after the break up was just her channeling her mom.
 
My heart is breaking for Michael I feel bad for him. I do not feel sorry for Lisa did not give Michael what he wants children mean everything to him. Michael should have find him a real woman who willing give him everything he ever dream of.
 
A_Powerful_Mind said:
My 2 cents here...

IMO Lisa dropped the ball BIG TIME because:

1. She promised him to have kids knowing that's what he wanted more than anything and she went back that promise.
2. She said all she could see was the custody battle in the future, thus subconsciously saying that she knew they wouldn't last (which was also very important to Michael).
3. When Michael said to her that if she doesn't want to have his baby, Debbie will, she with her sarcastic behind told him to go ahead.

She really thought Michael was a big ball of mush/pushover and couldn't stand up to her or stand his ground about things. No doubt he loved her yes, but he wasn't going to let her come in and dictate his life on her grounds. He could be as firm as a 100 year old tree and stubborn as a mule when he wanted to be.

I think as far as Michael is concerned:

1. He felt utterly betrayed by her flip flopping on him.
2. He was sick of waiting and wanted babies...like yesterday.
3. He could see by her "custody battle" fears that she wasn't as committed as he'd hoped and she did not hold a future vision of them together (so in effect what did he have to lose if she was calling it on their future already?).

I do believe they loved each other very much and from what little I know I believe he had his greatest romantic connection with her out of all the women in his life. That said, even if Michael hadn't had the kids with Debbie I don't know if his relationship with Lisa would have worked out because it seems that Lisa only felt/knew certain things about Michael AFTER the fact.

She couldn't fathom that he could be a good father till AFTER Price was born and she wouldn't admit to herself and others how much she truly loved him until AFTER he was dead.

Too little too late.

One more thing....Lisa Marie isn't a strong person. She just pretends to be. It's her facade. She acts like a rebel without a cause when it comes to her mother, but believe me....check behind the scenes and you'll see that Lisa cares very much about what her mother has to say and always has. When she was taking stabs at her mom over the years, it's just her trying to get a rise out of her, just like a rebellious teen would do.

I wouldn't be surprised if 90% of her "feelings" about Michael after the break up was just her channeling her mom.
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as always, you go to the heart of the matter.

agreed 100%.

Lisa Marie, IMO, loved Michael Jackson, but she needed to do a hell of a lot of growing up before uttering her "I do"s.

it wasn't Michael who was the "child" in that relationship. he was with it. he decided he was going to marry her, asked her, married her, wanted to have children, a family, grow old together with his chosen wife.

once that didn't happen, he did what he had to do to become a father.

he became a father and was a damned good one. I'd want him as my dad!

he was the adult in that relationship.

anybody trying to put another spin on this is deluding themselves.
 
Just saw this gif at ONTD:

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when Michael was on top of the world and breaking records with his world tour, all of a sudden Lisa wants him back? oh please. remember she asked him for a divorce when he was sitting on a hospital bed half dead?
then when the media is trampling all over him and he was the laughing stock of the whole world what does she do? she goes on oprah's show on national television and laughs at her marriage to Michael and says he was an evil bastard he was for using her ooh poor Lisa. the when he dies she tries to pull everything back in her pathetic blog because she doesn't have the courage to make a public statement, and not only that but she was the first to insinuate he died a self-destructive junkie like her dad - wow thank you Lisa! it was just proven it was a homicide and he was healthy man
 
shimar said:
Hell yes he did! He had that, "girl when we get home, I'm do that so RIGHT to you" look!
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LOL! And people want to make him out to be so different.

Right there he looks just as pervy and voyeuristic as any other normal red-blooded man.

I read somewhere that he was out to lunch with a friend and just sat there commenting on lady's lovely tail feathers when they were walking past. Somewhere else I read that they were in studio once way back in the day and some crazy chick with a nice bod lifted up her dress and pressed her birthday suit up to the window....and Michael was peeking out and staring her down from behind the console! :toofunny: bwahahahaha...my sides.
 
shimar said:
Another ONTD gif:

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:naughty: HAWTDAMN!!! What is it about that lipbite?! My ex used to do this all the time when he was concentrating on something... and I thought it was just the sexxxiest thing EVER. Whenever I would catch him doing it, I would just stare and drool... and just... yeah. :dribble:

indranee said:
LOL it looks like he eyes her boobies before that sneaky smile!
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:yes: I REALLY, TRULY, HONESTLY believe that Michael was a "Boob-Man." :lmao:
 
TheOriginalPYT said:
*threadjack*

:D Please make sure to post these in The Manhood Thread. Yeppers. :swoon:

/threadjack :p
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Already have. :cheeky: I did a while back and in the Macros thread. I'd have to look to see what page its on.
 
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