Michael Jackson's Marriage Heartbreak: Lisa Marie Didn't Want Children

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i didn't should if i should post this in that thread so i through i post it like this :yes:
but you can move it to the tread if you what i don't should :yes: :)

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, who was Michael Jackson's spiritual advisor for two years before they had a falling out, reveals new information on the King of Pop's marriage to Lisa Marie Presley on tonight's ET.
The rabbi recorded these conversations -- with the Gloved One's permission -- between 1999 and 2001. The tapes reveal in Michael's own words why his marriage to Lisa Marie ended.
"I wanted children and she didn't," he says. The tape goes on to say, "She promised me before we married that the first thing we would do was have children. I was brokenhearted.
"I walked around all the time holding these little baby dolls, and I'd be crying. That's how badly I wanted it, you know ... I was determined to have children."
"I think Michael's very clear," Rabbi Shmuley says. "The deterioration of the marriage was solely, overwhelmingly due to the fact that he wanted an enormous family and Lisa Marie did not."
Another bombshell that Rabbi Shmuley tells ET is that after Michael's divorce from Lisa Marie, she desperately wanted to get back into his life. "Lisa Marie called him and said, 'Let's rethink this. I'm ready to have children,'" Rabbi Shmuley says.
The Jackson tape goes on to say, "After we got divorced, she would hang out with my mother all the time. I have all these letters she sent: 'I'll give you nine children. I'll do whatever you want.' And, of course, the press doesn't know of these stories. And she just tried for months and months, and I became too hardhearted at that point. I had closed my mind on the whole situation."
These new revelations are in Rabbi Shmuley's new book, The Michael Jackson Tapes: A Tragic Icon Reveals His Soul in Intimate Conversation, in stores now.
Rabbi Shmuley says he ended his relationship as Jackson's spiritual advisor in 2001 when Michael began resisting his advice.
"My message to him was simple," the rabbi says. "Michael, I will always be affectionate towards you, and I will always care about you, and I've tried to help you, but if you want to sit here and drive your life off of a cliff, I will not sit here and applaud. That I will not do."

you can watch the video inside :)
here is link:http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/09/79246/index.html
 
oh poor ignorant lisa marie...
she shouldn't have been so cold and broke her promise to michael before they got married.
that was just plain mean...i don't blame michael for being hardhearted, i actually think that was a good idea. it was her loss...
 
^^ Yehh but something could have happened when they got marriage, theres no point calling her ignorant if you werent there.

She may have had a really good reason, and if she didn't want more kids after that it would have been wrong.

We don't the real reason, we wern't there
 
all Michael whats is child to stay close to his heart cause he didn't had childhood i understand that :yes:
and i understand that MJ wasn't into woman :no: that's what my mother say :yes: and i understand that he was lonely and he whats somebody but not relationship :yes:
but i'm single and i not like to be alone too :yes: :( but i'm not into relationship :yes: at all
but i just guys the samwway as MJ likes woman and grils :yes:
 
poor Michael and poor Lisa Marie! its their private matter. I hate that the whole world now knows about it :(
 
All I can say is, God rest your soul Michael. The poor man will never be left alone. People always manage to find new ways to cash in on him.
 
Actually, Lisa Marie had said that the reason she had told him she didn't want children was because she could see them in a big custody battle if they ever broke up and she didn't want to go through that. How can you even think that if you are in love with someone and want to have children with them? Shouldn't you be thinking of how wonderful your lives would be together raising them? I think her mother put thoughts in her head that made her think and say things contrary to the way she really felt. I'm glad you put this thread on here because I was just thinking about this situation this morning. Wow! I knew she kept saying she was in love with him and I know she keep seeing him after the divorce. Michael had even once said that she had wanted to have his children after the divorce but I didn't know how badly she wanted to get back with Michael and how desperate she was to please him. I feel so bad that he hardened his heart against her because they were so happy together in the beginning. For once, I don't think a child should not have listened to her mother. :no:
 
poor Michael and poor Lisa Marie! its their private matter. I hate that the whole world now knows about it :(
I agree, but Michael said it on tape, what was Michael thinking, sometimes he was cruel, why Michael didnt gave her another chance, why??? poor Lisa, she was an innocent woman, may be her mother was the one trying to separate them, and Lisa listened to her instead of doing what she really wanted, i dont know, poor Lisa
 
Oh please, LMP had her own agenda. Yes, she might have cared for Michael but I do not believe they were in love like a husband and wife should be. As for the children thing,that prove it to me even more. LMP had children, Michael did not. WHy marry a man whom you KNOW loved children, wanted children if you did not intend to have any (funny now that she was 40 and had TWINS for her new husband and Priscilla knew about him when she married him but NOT about Michael and the same with Michael whom Jacksons did not know about and Michael LOVED his mother and told her everything when it come to women but not LMP). ANyway, Michael is gone and I wish he would have found a REAL WIFE to love him (I believe that would have happen had he lived). I just want to cry for Michael everytime I think of this mess.
 
to me Michael was like a capricious kid, a little inmature too.

what the hell are you talking about?
do you wanna start a fight or something?
you don't know how Micheal was or how Lisa was
Lisa said awful things about him after they left each other
this isn't something new we talked about it in the tapes thread
and Micheal is dead so get over it already
 
I agree, but Michael said it on tape, what was Michael thinking, sometimes he was cruel, why Michael didnt gave her another chance, why??? poor Lisa, she was an innocent woman, may be her mother was the one trying to separate them, and Lisa listened to her instead of doing what she really wanted, i dont know, poor Lisa
Oh please, LMP did not listen to her mother. LMP was like a rebel kid even Priscilla said that. LMP knew what she was doing and did things her way. Her mother did not want her to drop out of school but she did anyway along with other things. Funny that LMP ONLY talked about Michael when she had a cd to promote. Even RF saw through her when it come to this.
 
Seriously,can this mothafacker fake rabbi STFU?

About Michael and Lisa,well,some will say Michael is cold-hearted or immature,but to me it's understandable. Seriously,when you feel like you are betrayed [in this case,Lisa betrayed the promise to have children] ,hardly can you forgive and all of sudden she came back,said "I WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH YOU" @_@ ?WTH?
 
what the hell are you talking about?
do you wanna start a fight or something?
you don't know how Micheal was or how Lisa was
Lisa said awful things about him after they left each other
this isn't something new we talked about it in the tapes thread
and Micheal is dead so get over it already


You are really crazy if you say i wanna start a fight, seems like you wanna do it, but what the hell are they releasing all this, its aweful, paints Michael as cold, cause we dont know what really happened, Lisa marie does not speak and the ball gets greater every day. Its disgusting
 
Seriously,can this mothafacker fake rabbi STFU?

About Michael and Lisa,well,some will say Michael is cold-hearted or immature,but to me it's understandable. Seriously,when you feel like you are betrayed [in this case,Lisa betrayed the promise to have children] ,hardly can you forgive and all of sudden she came back,said "I WANT TO HAVE CHILDREN WITH YOU" @_@ ?WTH?
Michael knew that mess was not right the right time. Move on the game is over.
 
Michael is gone. I do not know why Rabbi would bring it up. It was over. Let it rest. Everyone had moved on.
 
You are really crazy if you say i wanna start a fight, seems like you wanna do it, but what the hell are they releasing all this, its aweful, paints Michael as cold, cause we dont know what really happened, Lisa marie does not speak and the ball gets greater every day. Its disgusting

the things your saying are unbelievable MJ loved kids he wanted his own sooooo bad and Lisa said that they would have kids when they get married but changed her mind how the hell does that make Micheal cold?
 
You are really crazy if you say i wanna start a fight, seems like you wanna do it, but what the hell are they releasing all this, its aweful, paints Michael as cold, cause we dont know what really happened, Lisa marie does not speak and the ball gets greater every day. Its disgusting
I do not think it paint Michael as cold. I think most people understand. What is getting people is the fact this man was suppose to be a friend/adviser and now revealing PRIVATE thoughts of Michael and Michael is not here. That is what ticks people off.
 
All I know is that Priscilla is a stupid woman, she was the one trying to separate them, but enough, Michael cant defend himself and say what she may have done to him. Stupid rabbi, stupid liar, backstubber monster
 
the things your saying are unbelievable MJ loved kids he wanted his own sooooo bad and Lisa said that they would have kids when they get married but changed her mind how the hell does that make Micheal cold?
I did not say he was cold, i said this paints Michael as cold, is that rabbi, its his fault
 
All I know is that Priscilla is a stupid woman, she was the one trying to separate them, but enough, Michael cant defend himself and say what she may have done to him. Stupid rabbi, stupid liar, backstubber monster
Sorry but I am NOT going to blame this on Priscilla. Like I said, LMP has her OWn mind and and tends to do what SHE want to do regardless to what her mother says. LMP is no wallflower.
 
oh poor ignorant lisa marie...
she shouldn't have been so cold and broke her promise to michael before they got married.
that was just plain mean...i don't blame michael for being hardhearted, i actually think that was a good idea. it was her loss...

Ignorant? So you think she should born a baby, even if she didn't want to? Now that would be ignorant...

to me Michael was like a capricious kid, a little inmature too.

That's true, but he simply loved kids! :)
 
There's always two sides to every story, and most often the truth is somewhere in between.
 
Ignorant? So you think she should born a baby, even if she didn't want to? Now that would be ignorant...----------------- true and that is why you do not marry a man who wants children and when you do not want them. That is the smart thing to do. My sister who tubes are tied will NOt date a man if he does have his children because she said she does NOT want anymore. her womb is off limits. LOL
 
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