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Michael Jackson's dad will be deposed by Jackson's estate lawyers some time next month in his bid to receive an allowance from the estate.
As we first reported, Joe Jackson filed a claim against the estate last year in an effort to get a monthly check from the estate.
According to documents filed earlier this week, Joe will sit down with Michael's attorney at a date to be determined "between June 1, 2010 and July 1, 2010."
Both sides will then go back to court some time after August 1.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/05/07/michael-jackson-joe-jackson-deposition-allowance/
 
I just gotta shake my head when I see info about this allowance thing, its not like Joe does'nt have all those other children that can help to take care of him, so why is there the need to make sure he gets money from Michael? Its just making him look greedy.
 
They allegedly offered him 10K$ per month which he turned down, because he is asking for 15K$ per month. Even though he wasn't listed in the will. WTF?

So, I would say calling him greedy is a fair assumption
 
he wasn't mentioned in the will for a reason..Michael didn't want to give him anything,,Michael also knew that Katherine would give him money anyway like she has done for years..Michael trusted his mothers judgment. Now my question is...can Joe challenge Michael's will like this and legally get his own allowance from it against Michael's wishes?. If he can than this just sucks..why bother writing a will at all if it can be gone against.
 
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go ask one of your living kids for some money.
 
twinklEE said:
no one owes him a damn thing beside Michael don't you know? His dozen of living children don't owe him ish, but dead Michael does, always did and always will-_-
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Ludicrous is'nt it?:smilerolleyes:

Michael's WILL was clear, if someone's name was'nt mentioned, then they should get NOTHING!
 
A monthly 'check'? Isnt it supposed to be 'cheque'?

They cant even spell correctly.......
 
L.T.D said:
A monthly 'check'? Isnt it supposed to be 'cheque'?

They cant even spell correctly.......
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It can be spelled either way, in the united states we spell it check. Either way TMZ is known for mistakes not limited to grammer.
 
L.T.D said:
A monthly 'check'? Isnt it supposed to be 'cheque'?

They cant even spell correctly.......
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Thats how the word is spelt in some parts of the world, where I'm from its spelled 'cheque'
 
The new situation with Joe Jackson meeting with the estate lawyers, for a
allowance and HE WAS NOT IN THE WILL. If there is a legal binding will, you have to go to court to contest it. So with Joe Jackson going straight to the executors for a monthly allowance with no judge or court hearing. Well, let's just say that
is NOT how probate court is handled. He has to contest the Will and it is a very long process and the judge or a jury makes the final decision. If Joe Jackson, gets any money then there is SOMETHING FISHY GOING ON !!
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
The new situation with Joe Jackson meeting with the estate lawyers, for a
allowance and HE WAS NOT IN THE WILL. If there is a legal binding will, you have to go to court to contest it. So with Joe Jackson going straight to the executors for a monthly allowance with no judge or court hearing. Well, let's just say that
is NOT how probate court is handled. He has to contest the Will and it is a very long process and the judge or a jury makes the final decision. If Joe Jackson, gets any money then there is SOMETHING FISHY GOING ON !!
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From the original article by TMZ: "According to documents filed earlier this week, Joe will sit down with Michael's attorney at a date to be determined "between June 1, 2010 and July 1, 2010."
Both sides will then go back to court some time after August 1."

Maybe I'm missing something here, but doesn't this article clearly state that after Joe discusses things with Michael's attorney that both sides will be going back to court (which I have to assume means with a Judge in attendance). Court=Judge. And as I recall this dialogue between Joe/attorneys and a court/judge date has been known for several months.

I'm not a Joe supporter, but I know this has been in discussed with a court date and Judge for several months now, nothing new or unexpected.
 
Doesnt Joe have his own record company? Why does he need money from Michael's estate?

How long is it until Katherine receives funds again?
 
Dangerous Incorporated said:
Doesnt Joe have his own record company? Why does he need money from Michael's estate?

How long is it until Katherine receives funds again?
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As i remember seeing a video from twiggy on michael jackson insider saying that joe is going up against the executors about the will with his documents that he have obtain and the document from the hospital on michael, and majestic said joe do not want the money and branca offered joe money and joe turn them down he said joe is interested in what the executors would do majestic said the executors try and buy everyone off. joe has agenda thats why he wanted the doucments on michael from the hospital.
 
blueocean said:
As i remember seeing a video from twiggy on michael jackson insider saying that joe is going up against the executors about the will with his documents that he have obtain and the document from the hospital on michael, and majestic said joe do not want the money and branca offered joe money and joe turn them down he said joe is interested in what the executors would do majestic said the executors try and buy everyone off.
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i guess Branca didn't offer Joe what he wanted, plenty of money.

the 26 May evidentiary hearing is about family allowance, nothing else.

Joe & oxman want money for their lifestyle and the lawsuit against Murray
 
Okay let's explain /clarify some stuff and correct mistaken information

Joe has not gone straight to the executors, Joe had filed 2 separate lawsuits against the estate.

Lawsuit 1. Joe claimed that the will was not valid, Branca should not be an executor etc. Judge rejected that case saying that Joe did not have a legal standing in contesting the will. Oxman filed an appeal. We don't know the result of the appeal.

Lawsuit 2. Joe requested an allowance from the estate saying that he was dependent on Michael and Michael gave him money through his mother. This case is still ongoing (judge did not decide on this case). And the deposition is for this case.

Deposition is a legal term. A deposition is a discovery where you gather information and evidence. Deposition happens outside the court but under oath where lawyers and a court reporter is present and the deposition is transcribed (in some cases it might even be filed with the court). The other side (in this case the estate lawyers) do the deposition to gather information (such as why joe thinks he was dependent on Michael, how much money Katherine gave him when Michael was alive, how much money he needs and why etc etc). All of the information gathered at a deposition can be used in the trial. Similarly information gathered in the deposition can be used to determine to whether go to the trial or settle outside the court (such as if they believe Joe has a strong evidence they might offer him a settlement or if they believe he has no evidence they might reject anything and take it to court).

Now there's nothing strange or fishy about a settlement / offer outside the court. As you can see from this example even a simple case takes months, requires effort, time and money. In small cases such as this it's recommended to try to settle outside the court as its quicker, easier and cheaper. Plus settlements are private - court documents/lawsuits are not. In some situations privacy (such as keeping the amount of money given private or keeping the terms of the settlement private) could be enough reason to settle outside the court. There can be tens, hundreds of reasons for settlement which are quite normal and acceptable.
 
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ivy said:
Deposition is a legal term. A deposition is a discovery where you gather information and evidence. Deposition happens outside the court but under oath where lawyers and a court reporter is present and the deposition is transcribed (in some cases it might even be filed with the court). The other side (in this case the estate lawyers) do the deposition to gather information (such as why joe thinks he was dependent on Michael, how much money Katherine gave him when Michael was alive, how much money he needs and why etc etc). All of the information gathered at a deposition can be used in the trial. Similarly information gathered in the deposition can be used to determine to whether go to the trial or settle outside the court (such as if they believe Joe has a strong evidence they might offer him a settlement or if they believe he has no evidence they might reject anything and take it to court).
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
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How does the word Depose relate to this?
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Thank you.

But if Joe gets gets any money from the estate in 3 years or less, then something is up. It takes years to break a will.

Look at Anna Nicole Smith, she was married and was denied any money from her husbands estate.
 
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Funny how you see nothing wrong with these non-family people controlling and taking Michael's money; however, you don't even think his own father--who had the most to do with who and how successful he became--should even have a small amount (15K per month is actually nothing when you think about the size of the estate). Do you really think Michael freely and willingly helped all those unknown people but literally ignored his own father (by not helping or supporting him). I don't. I think anyone named Jackson he gave to freely. Else how could he possibly have the conscious to help others yet deny his own blood. It was a family affair. Pappa Joe instilled that in them. I frankly don't see it in Michael to not follow that grain. I fully believe he helped/supported his father.

Now there are these executors who bear no resemblance and have no feelings for anything Jackson. They are compensated well just to be executors. They have already even given themselves a 10% raise. What do you think 10% of many-millions of dollars is. Yet they have the unmitigated gawl to sit in judgement of Michael's father and deny him a n y t h i n g he would ask for. I'm not necessarily pro Joe but I, like Michael, don't hate him and I, like Michael, have forgiven him for past deeds. I look at it like this. "The means obviously justified the end--let's face it, 9 kids with 6 boys in inner city with gangs, drugs, and crime". All the children ended up fine upstanding citizens and as well talented artists with children of their own who were talented and to top it off Millionaires. That has to say something. So let it go people!!!!! You all are starting to sound like participants in the conspiracy, which I fully believe is what has happened to Michael.

No one but Michael's family should control his estate, plain and simple. Not only that, Michael fired Branca years ago and you tell me all of a sudden he got this new found trust.
So in other words, it's very questionable if that was really Michael's will.

Michael Jackson would not leave tons of Money to charities helping millions of people he did not even know and deliberately say no to his father. I don't believe it for one minute. That just was not Michael. Michael, in spite of what everyone believes, loved his father. His father was always there for him. Michael literally looked to his father to have the answers. And when Michael finally learned how an oppressed Black man filled with pride showed love, he was finally able to enjoy a better relationship with his father.

Get with the program people. Michael would not like people bashing his father like this and mistreating him.
 
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Dangerous Incorporated said:
Thank you.

But if Joe gets gets any money from the estate in 3 years or less, then something is up. It takes years to break a will.

Look at Anna Nicole Smith, she was married and was denied any money from her husbands estate.
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well I wouldn't compare this to Anna Nicole. She was 20 something married to an old sick man obviously for the money and his kids were determined to not give her any money. That's why that case takes so long.

In this case executors can say "he's old, he's Michaels dad let's give him whatever money he wants so that we don't have to deal with a court case". You never know.
 
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One point of another I agree with some of what you are saying, But his family controlling his will personally i feel on that part a No it would course so many disagreements and problems( a family member i would of chosen would of been Between Janet and Rebbie. As for these MURDA TEAM who are running his estate is doing everything they can to keep themselves from being exposed by doing everything so called "in the name of MJJ. Real Talk some times I wish Prince and Paris was born during the early 80's and then things would of been different That estate should of been ran by his kids but its hard when they are so young. MJ needed a strong and truthfully team behind him. As for his father I just can't see Michael not taking care of his dad sadly he been doing that sense he was 11 what more can dude give his dad real talk you mean to tell me Joe didn’t get no royalties? Doesn’t he have a record label? And that so call lady who is his artist? I’m just saying ~100
 
ivy said:
well I wouldn't compare this to Anna Nicole. She was 20 something married to an old sick man obviously for the money and his kids were determined to not give her any money. That's why that case takes so long.

In this case executors can say "he's old, he's Michaels dad let's give him whatever money he wants so that we don't have to deal with a court case". You never know.
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But they cant do that because that is going against Michael request which is the point of the Will. If Michael wanted to give Joe money he would have said so in the Will. It doesnt say, "If Branca feels like it." Branca would then be going against the law and not abbiding by the Will. Only a Judge can overturn any decision in a Will.

You're example is contradictory w/ Anna Nicole as the same could be said for Joe. Most people here on MJJC are saying that Joe is only in it for the money. Joe is only filing for Wrongful Death for the money (which why most people file a Wrongful Death suit!)

Somethings not right here. My Spidey sense's are tingling! lol
 
a family allowance is given when a parent is dependent. Oxman/Joe must proove he was dependent.

a family allowance is given during the administration of the estate. When the probate case will be closed and the assets transferred, no more family allowance. Joe would have no money.
 
marc_vivien said:
i guess Branca didn't offer Joe what he wanted, plenty of money.

the 26 May evidentiary hearing is about family allowance, nothing else.

Joe & oxman want money for their lifestyle and the lawsuit against Murray
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according to majestic joe did not want the money is the reason joe turned it down, he said joe was looking to see what they would do,joe and oxman got the documents for a reason. I dont believe joe is going to give up his fight for justice (will)for michael and just take the money. one meanings of deposed is to remove from office or position. dont know the way this aritcle ment it.
 
ivy said:
Okay let's explain /clarify some stuff and correct mistaken information

Joe has not gone straight to the executors, Joe had filed 2 separate lawsuits against the estate.

Lawsuit 1. Joe claimed that the will was not valid, Branca should not be an executor etc. Judge rejected that case saying that Joe did not have a legal standing in contesting the will. Oxman filed an appeal. We don't know the result of the appeal.

Lawsuit 2. Joe requested an allowance from the estate saying that he was dependent on Michael and Michael gave him money through his mother. This case is still ongoing (judge did not decide on this case). And the deposition is for this case.

Deposition is a legal term. A deposition is a discovery where you gather information and evidence. Deposition happens outside the court but under oath where lawyers and a court reporter is present and the deposition is transcribed (in some cases it might even be filed with the court). The other side (in this case the estate lawyers) do the deposition to gather information (such as why joe thinks he was dependent on Michael, how much money Katherine gave him when Michael was alive, how much money he needs and why etc etc). All of the information gathered at a deposition can be used in the trial. Similarly information gathered in the deposition can be used to determine to whether go to the trial or settle outside the court (such as if they believe Joe has a strong evidence they might offer him a settlement or if they believe he has no evidence they might reject anything and take it to court).

Now there's nothing strange or fishy about a settlement / offer outside the court. As you can see from this example even a simple case takes months, requires effort, time and money. In small cases such as this it's recommended to try to settle outside the court as its quicker, easier and cheaper. Plus settlements are private - court documents/lawsuits are not. In some situations privacy (such as keeping the amount of money given private or keeping the terms of the settlement private) could be enough reason to settle outside the court. There can be tens, hundreds of reasons for settlement which are quite normal and acceptable.
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This article states that joe is meeting with the lawyer's of the estate then on aug 1st is the court date, and according to majestic joe was looking to see the response he would get about the money and said joe did not want the money and turn it down, There is a reason joe wanted all these documents and the most recent one was the records from the hospital that are included in this case
 
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