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Michael Jackson v. Wade Robson, a new trial to be held

Blues_Away2023 said:
Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't that the point in the whole thing?

Robson and Safechuck can't go after a dead man so they go after his estate for neglect and for allowing Michael to abuse them?

If so, that's basically saying Michael was guilty? and his company did nothing to protect the minors whilst they stayed in his care?
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Michael was the sole owner of MJJ Productions and MJJ Venture, so they are saying that those companies had knowledge of the alleged criminal behaviour by Michael and those should have fired Michael because of that reason...Which makes no sense because then Michael should be acknowledge himself as a criminal and fire himself from the companies in order for the companies to relieve themselves from duty of care of Robson and Safechuck...🤔

That's what I understand from the appealed lawsuits and I don't see in any way how Robson and Safechuck can prevail and win in this trial based on this presumption.

Safechuck can't produce any records that he was employed by those companies during 1988-1992, his mother was with him during the Bad Tour so she would obviously have duty of care from him. Lets not forget that MJJ Venture wasn't founded until 1991 so would they have duty of care and responsibility of Safechuck when it didn't existed between 1988-1990 (there goes the train station effect again...)? Pepsi were sponsoring the Bad Tour, why weren't they named as a defendant?

Robson was employed and got paid salary for his contribution in the music videos Black Or White, Jam and Heal The World 1991 and 1992 by MJJ Productions but never did he claimed to be molested by Michael during those shooting sessions? And this meet and greet competition he won the prize of meeting Michael for the first time in Australia 1987, that was something established by Target and Pepsi - not by MJJ Productions. Why isn't Target also named as a defendant?

These appealed cases are complete bogus and all of this is going to be displayed and revealed in front of the jury members of trial if it really goes that far.
 
john13th said:
Michael was the sole owner of MJJ Productions and MJJ Venture, so they are saying that those companies had knowledge of the alleged criminal behaviour by Michael and those should have fired Michael because of that reason...Which makes no sense because then Michael should be acknowledge himself as a criminal and fire himself from the companies in order for the companies to relieve themselves from duty of care of Robson and Safechuck...🤔

That's what I understand from the appealed lawsuits and I don't see in any way how Robson and Safechuck can prevail and win in this trial based on this presumption.

Safechuck can't produce any records that he was employed by those companies during 1988-1992, his mother was with him during the Bad Tour so she would obviously have duty of care from him. Lets not forget that MJJ Venture wasn't founded until 1991 so would they have duty of care and responsibility of Safechuck when it didn't existed between 1988-1990 (there goes the train station effect again...)? Pepsi were sponsoring the Bad Tour, why weren't they named as a defendant?

Robson was employed and got paid salary for his contribution in the music videos Black Or White, Jam and Heal The World 1991 and 1992 by MJJ Productions but never did he claimed to be molested by Michael during those shooting sessions? And this meet and greet competition he won the prize of meeting Michael for the first time in Australia 1987, that was something established by Target and Pepsi - not by MJJ Productions. Why isn't Target also named as a defendant?

These appealed cases are complete bogus and all of this is going to be displayed and revealed in front of the jury members of trial if it really goes that far.
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Thank you for the explanation 🙏
 
john13th said:
Michael was the sole owner of MJJ Productions and MJJ Venture, so they are saying that those companies had knowledge of the alleged criminal behaviour by Michael and those should have fired Michael because of that reason...Which makes no sense because then Michael should be acknowledge himself as a criminal and fire himself from the companies in order for the companies to relieve themselves from duty of care of Robson and Safechuck...🤔

That's what I understand from the appealed lawsuits and I don't see in any way how Robson and Safechuck can prevail and win in this trial based on this presumption.

Safechuck can't produce any records that he was employed by those companies during 1988-1992, his mother was with him during the Bad Tour so she would obviously have duty of care from him. Lets not forget that MJJ Venture wasn't founded until 1991 so would they have duty of care and responsibility of Safechuck when it didn't existed between 1988-1990 (there goes the train station effect again...)? Pepsi were sponsoring the Bad Tour, why weren't they named as a defendant?

Robson was employed and got paid salary for his contribution in the music videos Black Or White, Jam and Heal The World 1991 and 1992 by MJJ Productions but never did he claimed to be molested by Michael during those shooting sessions? And this meet and greet competition he won the prize of meeting Michael for the first time in Australia 1987, that was something established by Target and Pepsi - not by MJJ Productions. Why isn't Target also named as a defendant?

These appealed cases are complete bogus and all of this is going to be displayed and revealed in front of the jury members of trial if it really goes that far.
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Let's remember that their are 2 parts of their claims. Duty of Care is one of two. There is also the IIED claim that Finaldi will likely lean on for both of the cases.
Blues_Away2023 said:
Thank you for the explanation 🙏
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john13th said:
Michael was the sole owner of MJJ Productions and MJJ Venture, so they are saying that those companies had knowledge of the alleged criminal behaviour by Michael and those should have fired Michael because of that reason...Which makes no sense because then Michael should be acknowledge himself as a criminal and fire himself from the companies in order for the companies to relieve themselves from duty of care of Robson and Safechuck...🤔

That's what I understand from the appealed lawsuits and I don't see in any way how Robson and Safechuck can prevail and win in this trial based on this presumption.

Safechuck can't produce any records that he was employed by those companies during 1988-1992, his mother was with him during the Bad Tour so she would obviously have duty of care from him. Lets not forget that MJJ Venture wasn't founded until 1991 so would they have duty of care and responsibility of Safechuck when it didn't existed between 1988-1990 (there goes the train station effect again...)? Pepsi were sponsoring the Bad Tour, why weren't they named as a defendant?

Robson was employed and got paid salary for his contribution in the music videos Black Or White, Jam and Heal The World 1991 and 1992 by MJJ Productions but never did he claimed to be molested by Michael during those shooting sessions? And this meet and greet competition he won the prize of meeting Michael for the first time in Australia 1987, that was something established by Target and Pepsi - not by MJJ Productions. Why isn't Target also named as a defendant?

These appealed cases are complete bogus and all of this is going to be displayed and revealed in front of the jury members of trial if it really goes that far.
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The Duty of Care issue will be a harder sticking point in the Robson case over Safechucks for the reason mentioned above, but let's not forget there is also the IIED (procurement) claim.. Robson and/or Safechuck would need to have a jury side with them in 1 of the 2 primary claims, not both.
 
KOPV said:
Let's remember that their are 2 parts of their claims. Duty of Care is one of two. There is also the IIED claim that Finaldi will likely lean on for both of the cases.



The Duty of Care issue will be a harder sticking point in the Robson case over Safechucks for the reason mentioned above, but let's not forget there is also the IIED (procurement) claim.. Robson and/or Safechuck would need to have a jury side with them in 1 of the 2 primary claims, not both.
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How do the estate fight that it's going to be difficult
 
Oldtimer said:
What is the real possibility the estate will settle, especially with the bio on the way
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There is no possibility, please stop this thought pattern. They are not going to settle at all. THEY'RE GOING TO FIGHT.

There's simply the dread that comes from waiting for this case. That's literally all I said, that MJ was willing to wait and fight but it no doubt put so much of his life and career on wait.
 
Mister_Jay_Tee said:
There is no possibility, please stop this thought pattern. They are not going to settle at all. THEY'RE GOING TO FIGHT.

There's simply the dread that comes from waiting for this case. That's literally all I said, that MJ was willing to wait and fight but it no doubt put so much of his life and career on wait.
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OK, your right I really do want them to fight and I know deep down they will, just a bit of a wobble
 
Found out on twitter that dan reed is working with diane demon on LN2!
 
8701girl said:
Found out on twitter that dan reed is working with diane demon on LN2!
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They are monsters. Tgough, I am really curious what they are going to include what is supposed to change people's minds.

Probably some made up stories with 0 proof and some manipulated material.

Even worse: they will probably be a netwerk that wants to air it without doing prior research..

I hope Channel 4 and HBO learned their lesson.
 
TAW1979 said:
I think it should be noted that this is the same Diane Dimond who basically defended George Zimmerman, the vigilante who killed Trayvon Martin, an unarmed black teen.
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😲 wait what???!
 
* Case Update: February 28th, 2024 will be the Trial Conference. The judge will determine if the case needs time for discovery, how much time each side needs, and when the trial should happen.
 
KOPV said:
* Case Update: February 28th, 2024 will be the Trial Conference. The judge will determine if the case needs time for discovery, how much time each side needs, and when the trial should happen.
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Thanks for this update then. I guess it's on.
 
KOPV said:
* Case Update: February 28th, 2024 will be the Trial Conference. The judge will determine if the case needs time for discovery, how much time each side needs, and when the trial should happen.
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I wonder if this is when the judge decides if the trial will be a jury trial or heard by a judge only?
 
KOPV said:
* Case Update: February 28th, 2024 will be the Trial Conference. The judge will determine if the case needs time for discovery, how much time each side needs, and when the trial should happen.
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Thanks for the news.
 
8701girl said:
😲 wait what???!
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Yeah. Well, at least that's that I gathered from reading her articles about the murder. I googled her name and George Zimmerman, because I heard from somewhere that she basically defended Zimmerman, along with whiteplaining what racism is.
 
* Case Update: The latest legal document filed by Robsons side has a new Lawfirm and lawyer name. John Carpenter is the new lawyer. It looks like Finaldi is OFF the case!!



No reason is given but if I'm going to give a hypothesis. Finaldi leans heavily on settlement cases, now that it's going to trial, he likely knows he doesn't have a legitimate and rational case.
 
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