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Michael Jackson v. Wade Robson, a new trial to be held

BuffaloBill87 said:
I'm sorry but that excuse I'm not having. Anyway I'm tired of this topic. I can no longer be arsed discussing something that potentially happened over 30 years ago.
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Then why are you even in this thread in the first place?!
 
BuffaloBill87 said:
That sounds like he was incapable of making mature decisions which is not true.

Michael was a musical genius and a very smart man. He didn't get to where he is being dumb. He knew exactly what he was doing and was also aware of the difference between wrong or right.

I'm sorry but that excuse I'm not having. Anyway I'm tired of this topic. I can no longer be arsed discussing something that potentially happened over 30 years ago.

I'll stick to the main threads about the music.
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I think in his mind he was not doing anything wrong and that the public's view was wrong. He also stated that in multiple interviews. Keeping his relationships with kids even after the first allegations was not smart in the aftermath resulting in another allegation.

But what I do understand is that is he thinks he wasnt doing anything wrong or that he was even doing the right thing, then that he didnt have to stop. Maybe he didnt expect another kid to accuse him. A lot of people would argue indeed that it wasnt smart and maybe he shouldve stopped.

But I think that a big part of Michaels joy in life was reliving his lost childhood and live with the innocence and fun life of kids. Image if that's what makes you happy in life, then I understand that he didnt want to stop because some people tried to extortionate him. Its what made him happy. I think he did make a mature decision, he choose his happiness.
 
8701girl said:
Then why are you even in this thread in the first place?!
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I've been in this thread since news broke of a potential new trial , I have an interest in this part of Michael's life and the only part that I don't agree with.

His relationship with children has always been difficult to discuss but it's got to the point where I'm now done as some fans still can't accept that his behaviour wasn't anything other than normal.

I've wasted time and effort over the past few days. Clearly we have a different opinion and that's fine.

So hopefully you will now understand why I was in this thread.
 
BuffaloBill87 said:
I've been in this thread since news broke of a potential new trial , I have an interest in this part of Michael's life and the only part that I don't agree with.

His relationship with children has always been difficult to discuss but it's got to the point where I'm now done as some fans still can't accept that his behaviour wasn't anything other than normal.

I've wasted time and effort over the past few days. Clearly we have a different opinion and that's fine.

So hopefully you will now understand why I was in this thread.
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It may not been normal in public eye but in michael's eyes it was normal
 
this is the MJ, the media doesn't know
They Cage the Animals at Night (1984) is an autobiography written by Jennings Michael Burch. It tells the story of his childhood, detailing his experience with foster care, with an epilogue of what happened to the family's members. In the book, he talks about traveling to various foster homes after being abandoned by his mother, his experiences in each of them, and how he relied upon a stuffed animal he named "Doggie".

They Cage the Animals At Night - Wikipedia

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8701girl said:
yes youre right that what got me angry at times
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You know what? I love the mystique around Michael, all the crazy stories( some that were planted by him) and all that jazz the whole Wacko Jacko persona - he was larger than life and very unique.

That's not the issue here.
 
8701girl said:
well with the way wendijane replied it seemed he indeed call mj ''wacko jacko''
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He shouldve used brackets or something. I agree it wasnt the best word to use. But I read it different than you.

I think some of you are a little too sensitive towards Michael sometimes.. I like how much you want to defend him and I respect that, you are important to the MJ community, but sometimes it's a bit exaggerated.
 
MJImpeccable said:
He shouldve used brackets or something. I agree it wasnt the best word to use. But I read it different than you.

I think some of you are a little too sensitive towards Michael sometimes.. I like how much you want to defend him and I respect that, you are important to the MJ community, but sometimes it's a bit exaggerated.
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can you blame us?! with the way the media try so hard to make mj look guilty and sinister??
 
8701girl said:
can you blame us?! with the way the media try so hard to make mj look guilty and sinister??
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No I completely understand, I also get fk irritared when people tro to mock him on the internet. I guess I am a bit more moderate and I know that guy probably upset you with some things he said (I think him sharing his views, even if you dont like them, is not a bad thing as long as we stay respecful to each other). But sometimes I see a lot of quick emotional reactions when that wasnt needed.
 
MJImpeccable said:
No I completely understand, I also get fk irritared when people tro to mock him on the internet. I guess I am a bit more moderate and I know that guy probably upset you with some things he said (I think him sharing his views, even if you dont like them, is not a bad thing as long as we stay respecful to each other). But sometimes I see a lot of quick emotional reactions when that wasnt needed.
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its ok just people gotta stop with the name calling when it comes to mj
 
MJImpeccable said:
There is only one thing that bothers me a little bit is that people here think it is 'ok' for an adult to hang out with children and act like this is normal. Even with Michael, and all the things I just mentioned, and that people are protective of children and that an adult hanging with children it simply a little odd in our current society, which makes it morally wrong to do. People think his behaviour was questionable for a reason, which indicates that we don't 'accept' it in our (western) society. (I dont know how other parts of the world though about these topics)
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From my own(!) memories, I believe nobody ever thought that MJ hanging out with children was 'normal', they viewed it as another eccentric thing; just like a lot of other stuff he did (having a zoo, a chimp on the road etc.) Since he was extremely popular there were also a lot people who believed it was actually a nice thing to do for those kids (not many people linked this or cared about a lost childhood yet, except some fans maybe)

I don't believe anyone found anything questionable about him hanging around children, that all started in '93 (we, the public also didn't know about sleepovers, let alone him spending the night with boys alone). Also yes the world was very very different then it is now and were much less alert and 'knowledgable' about this type of stuff, for better and worse I guess
 
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Victorious said:
From my own(!) memories, I believe nobody ever thought that MJ hanging out with children was 'normal', they viewed it as another eccentric thing; just like a lot of other stuff he did (having a zoo, a chimp on the road etc.) Since he was extremely popular there were also a lot people who believed it was actually a nice thing to do for those kids (not many people linked this or cared about a lost childhood except some fans maybe)

I don't believe anyone found anything questionable about him hanging around children, that started in '93. Also yes the world was very very different then it is now and were much less alert and 'knowldgable' about this type of stuff
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gosh this makes me more sad bout mjs death :( he was too innocent for this cruel world
 
The word WJ is banned here in any context.
There were two rules here when he was amongst us on this forum. You don't post pics of his (then) young children and WJ is banned from here.
I know noone is posting pics i am just saying those were the rules which were requested , and i believe the WJ one still stands.
 
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Victorious said:
From my own(!) memories, I believe nobody ever thought that MJ hanging out with children was 'normal', they viewed it as another eccentric thing; just like a lot of other stuff he did (having a zoo, a chimp on the road etc.) Since he was extremely popular there were also a lot people who believed it was actually a nice thing to do for those kids (not many people linked this or cared about a lost childhood yet, except some fans maybe)

I don't believe anyone found anything questionable about him hanging around children, that all started in '93 (we, the public also didn't know about sleepovers, let alone him spending the night with boys alone). Also yes the world was very very different then it is now and were much less alert and 'knowledgable' about this type of stuff, for better and worse I guess
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Before 93 no one payed attention to it really. A classmate of mine (famous actor) spend time with him during the Bad and Dangerous tour in Sweden and at NL. We were all extremely jealous. Until today he only has fond memories of MJ.
 
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MJImpeccable said:
''ThAt WorD iS BaNneD!''.. grow up. As long as we use it in context and respectful to Michael, anyone can use it here.
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Why are you even covering for this dude? I need to grow up? Are you for real right now? This clown said "Michael is potentially a paedophile and with good reason." how is that in context, let alone respectful? Wow, just wow.
 
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