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Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon by David Gest (merged)

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teli-mj said:
If this documentary has anything that disrespects MJ's legacy or his privacy, then f** with it, i don't want it. I don't want to hear or see private things of MJ's life that he wouldn't want people to know. I don't think MJ was a God or that he did not do wrong but some things are ment to be private and they should stay that way. Like we wouldn't want to have our most private, embarrasing or vulnerable moments became o public spectacle, i'm sure there were moments in MJ's life that he wouldn't want the general public to know about.That includes fans too. Just because we are his fans, doesn't meant that we have the right to know every single detail about the guy. Is none of our bussiness. And that's not because some of us think that he was this angel and that those kind of moments would ruin that picture but because he was a human being and privacy is one of the most fundamental rights of a human being. Mike asked for privacy, he never got it from the media at least we, the fans should respect his wish. (I'm saying all this IF the documentary really includes things like Mike throwing up and stuff like that which really make me sick)
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^ Agreed with the above. It's because I know Michael was human that I have empathy for him, and as a result, don't enjoy seeing personal or embarrassing moments become (as tell-mj so aptly stated) a "public spectacle". Especially when we know he was a person who valued his privacy and has already been publicly ridiculed for decades. (And on a personal note, I believe we all deserve the opportunity to explore and grow into ourselves without it being put on display and scrutinized by the public at large. Many celebrities aren't famous as a child, teenager, and adult and as a consequence do have that opportunity.)

I'll withhold from judging the documentary before seeing it (and I know Tom Mesereau has been positive about it) but I am feeling weary due to various discrepancies and remarks Gest has already made. I hope the documentary is approached with honesty and integrity, and not pushing an agenda... even more so since Michael isn't here to refute or explain. I don't think anyone takes offence to humane everyday stories about him, often they can be endearing. But when the stories add to tabloid fodder that sensationalize foibles, they reinforce the negative image Michael is so often portrayed in. I've already seen people dislike and think less of Michael after hearing "humanizing" stories about him from people who claim to be "friends" of his. I wouldn't enjoy seeing anything similar arise with this documentary... or anything published about him for that matter. And truth be told, Michael dying and then having his autopsy photo (amongst other personal things) publicly displayed and discussed on TV really should be humanizing enough. How much more do we need to see? It's sad to view a person, who tried to do some good for the world, keep getting exhibited... often for the benefit of others. And to reiterate, it's because I view him as a human being that I feel this way.
 
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I've tried to avoid this topic mostly because I've taken a wait and see stance to this entire documentary. I'm not sold on it just because T-Mez likes it. I have some serious misgivings about Gest and the rest of the family, especially after that fiasco call a tribute concert.

The main problem I have with these 'tell-all' docs is the privacy issue. Unlike many other stars, Michael didn't like to tell too much personal stuff about himself. He didn't go into detail about his time on the road, the trouble his cause his brothers, and the antics he had with other people. So, I have mix feelings when people tell this kind of information about Michael. Especially when these people didn't feel they should or just didn't tell these stories when Michael was around. Gest may of planned this doc since 2003, but since it was never aired, it isn't like we can compare what he was willing to say when Michael was alive vs. what he's saying now. Yeah, he wrote a book, but did Michael even read it? Did he like Gest telling these kind of stories or did he sit back and laugh since 90% of it was BS? Michael isn't here anymore to set the record either way.

I also don't understand why Gest didn't go to the estate if this doc is all positive or fair. If it was really balance, the estate shouldn't see a problem approving it and given him rights to Michael's later songs. Also if he went to the estate the money for his doc would go directly to Mrs. Jackson and Michael's kids. Isn't that worth even an effort to at least meet with the estate? Why go around and make himself no different than all those unofficial crap that was created after Michael died? It's all a little strange to me.

I maybe thinking about this too much and I can't judge at this point. Although, it looks more the same as other docs I've seen about Michael. Allot of information from the Motown day to the 80s with scraps of information and hearsay from the 90s onward. The fact that there are very few people interviewed from later in Michael's life doesn't assure me.
 
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I respect T Mez for what he did (& continues to do) for MJ in 2005. But his words aren't the gospel...

Obviously, he thinks/Said the family is full of love and what not, but we all know that is a facade.
He did his job in 2005 (and even above & beyond since MJ Passed), but I don't feel compel to adopt his personal vues about this farce of a documentary, just because he finds it peachy.


OT: how can a documentary called " Life of an Icon" only covers his childhood, not his most important years? how is that MJ's life story? Sheeeshhhh...


ANYTHING FOR MONEY...

Thank you estate &/or Sony for not allowing these frauds to abuse MJ's musical legacy further, by not allowing them to use the most Epic years (pun intended)
 
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Does this come out Oct 31? I think if people would ask the estate for help or info that it would be better. They have a lot of resources. I don't have a problem hearing stories about Michael that make him sound human. He was human. My issue and caution is who is behind the message and if they were really close to Michael and why they are doing it. Michael was used way too much in his life for many reasons and I worry how much it will continue now that he is gone.
 
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I find these documentaries as UNAUTHORIZED since they never got the blessing of the Estate. I don't care whether the author has good intentions or not. that's beside the point. to me, any effort to exploit the name/image/likeness of MJ should be discussed with and approved by the Estate. Without this I am just not interested. David Gest is one of a long list of leeches that have been living off MJ for years. So there is no surprise to see the guy desperately trying to make a buck. He can claim he got the blessing from the Jack$son$ all he wants. The truth is the Jack$son$ don't control the Estate, let alone the intellectual property of MJ. In fact they are not even beneficiaries of his Estate except for KJ and MJ3. and even so KJ has no rights to MJ likeness or whatsoever so she cannot grant them to anyone for whatever reason he wants them.
 
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Rhilo said:
Universalpictures UK has uploaded three short clips, and two were new to me. It made me sad to hear, although we know this already, that as a child Michael had to rehearse 3 -4 hours daily, then do gigs till 2.00am in the morning and go to school the same day. He probably only got 4 hours of sleep or less. He was so little, I don't understand how his mother allowed it. Letting a family of eleven people piggyback on the shoulders of a 7 year old is extreme. And even in death they continue to use him, and sadly his children to make money...

People still debate whether what Joseph did was child abuse in terms of the beatings (it's abuse to me), but even they shouldn't have a problem deeming that a child of 6 or 7 years slaving away for his family is abuse.



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Poor Michael :(
 
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From LSA:
yes mine arrived yesterday,only watched about an hour of it so far, as I haven't had time to sit and watch it. but i'll be watching the rest of it on Sunday. So far it's quite interesting, can't wait to see the rest.
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well i've just finished watching the documentary, i must say it's very emotioal to watch. it goes from when he was a child in the jackson 5 up until the trial in 2005. there isn't much tea though. david said about the woman who jumped his bones, but that was all he said, but Frank Delio said he knew about some women, but he was taking that to his grave. ( unfortunately he has ).That's about it, but it is very good, with a lot of interviews with family and friends. but if you're like me, you will need a few tissues at hand.
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I actually saw a massive poster for this at my local tube station which really surprised me to be honest.
 
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Sophielo said:
I actually saw a massive poster for this at my local tube station which really surprised me to be honest.
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I'd be surprised too myself.
 
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So people have to hear private stories about Michael drinking and throwing up in order for them so see him as human? wow.....that death photo should humanize him enough for them.

This whole thing is about David Gest and David Gest alone.
 
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ExoticPrincess said:
So people have to hear private stories about Michael drinking and throwing up in order for them so see him as human? wow.....that death photo should humanize him enough for them.

This whole thing is about David Gest and David Gest alone.
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I agree one million percent..........


The trailer shows David saying that MJ "eliminated" everyone who tried to help..........

.............just further proof that David is trying to convince everyone that he attempted to help MJ, when in fact he was ignorant to Michael's real problems and he did nothing to help!!!!!!
 
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Gaz said:
Ok Guys,

Lets put our money where our mouths are,

I have been asked to compile 50 questions from you the fans,

These questions will be directed at,

David Gest
Katherine Jackson
Rebbie Jackson
Tito Jackson
Thomas Mez
Susan Yu
And many others

I need these by the end of Wednesday,

Either place them here or email us @ questions@mjjcommunity.com

Now I ask you all to be polite and respectful, but hell ask what you want just do it respectfully.
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For the Jackson Family & David Gest

1.) Are there plans for any more MJ related products or projects.

2.) Are there any particular reasons for not making the documentary official with consent from the MJJ estate?


For Jackson Family

We have seen many MJ related products and projects from the family since Michael's passing:
1.) Why are none of these made official with the estate?
2.) Why is there a continued rift between the Estate and the Family?
3.) Why weren't the family this active before Michael's passing?
 
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How does he know Michael could not do the shows. I wish people would just stick to the childhood stories they have of Michael. Gest was not hanging out with Michael in 09.

Mez likes it. Did anyone find out what Rebbie said?
 
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Petrarose said:
How does he know Michael could not do the shows. I wish people would just stick to the childhood stories they have of Michael. Gest was not hanging out with Michael in 09.

Mez likes it. Did anyone find out what Rebbie said?
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Why are you surprise? This is the same dumbo who sold a story to the Sun talking about how Michael was in ill health, drugged up, and couldn't do the shows. Funny that he admits that when Michael was supposedly unconscious in his hotel room, he told Michael to get his ass on stage and dance. Even when he claims he knew Michael had a problem it wasn't 'well, you should rest and get better', it was 'I will charge you butt if you're late again'.

Even if this story isn't true, Michael was clearly not 100% at MGS, although I love that Billie Jean performance. Yet, he said crap about it and was all smile charges fans crap loads of money.

Hypocrites.
 
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^ I believe what David said in regards to the 30th anniversary concert was in jest. I don't think he would actually say that to Michael. I think you're reading into it and trying to find more reasons to victimize the situation.

And wow. Wow wow wow. How dare you tell someone to go "burn somewhere"! That's extremely rude and quite scary, actually. Despite what Rebbie does with her life, she does NOT deserve such disgusting things to be said about her. Wow.
 
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kindofdisco said:
^ I believe what David said in regards to the 30th anniversary concert was in jest. I don't think he would actually say that to Michael. I think you're reading into it and trying to find more reasons to victimize the situation.

And wow. Wow wow wow. How dare you tell someone to go "burn somewhere"! That's extremely rude and quite scary, actually. Despite what Rebbie does with her life, she does NOT deserve such disgusting things to be said about her. Wow.
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First on Rebbie. She is managed and is a supported of Stacy Brown. If you don't know who Stacy is, he is the person who co-wrote 'Behind the Mask' with Bob Jones. Since you are a legacy member, I'm going to assume you know the BS both these men has said about Michael during his trial and how both of them were DA's witnesses who had their lie called out by T-Mez. After Michael died, Stacy made a blog or a twit about how Madonna stood relevant and how Michael had to die to be like after he ruin his life. He also said he knew that Michael was a pedo and even made a twit about Michael's suppose children porn. He also supported Diane Diamond's book, 'Be Careful Who You Love'. He also had dinner with one of the DA who prosecuted Michael in 2005, Diane Diamond, and a friend of Gavin's family who testify against Michael.

This man is Rebbie's manager. This man has talk crap about Michael for years and continue to do so after he died and Rebbie still supports and honer him. With that, one can easily come to the conclusion that Rebbie believes some really bad stuff about Michael. Otherwise, how can you hang with anyone who talks about your family member like that? Sorry, but Rebbie gets no pity out of me and it she can burn and take Stacy with her.


About Gest, that is a weird and disturbing joke, if it is one. How is it a joke to suggest that someone was knocked out in their hotel room and you forced them to perform? Gest maybe odd, but I don't think his sense of humor is that twisted since it isn't even funny given how some in the family blames AEG for doing this and is currently suing them. Not to mention the story he sold to the Sun, just days after Michael died. Jest or not, it's really bad taste.
 
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I am extremely aware of who Stacey Brown is, I have been in this community long enough to know the ins and outs of people in Michael's career. Do not insult my intelligence.

My problem is with your wording. Is it disgusting and horrible to basically someone should go burn in hell for something, REGARDLESS of what they've done. Have some respect, have some manners and post your opinion without such horrible words.

As for Gest, I am very much in the belief that Michael was knocked out - or in a similar state - before those concerts. Have you watched them? That's not Michael up there to me. That's someone who hid his mouth 80 percent of the time, was hunched over, looked glassy eyed....Michael was definitely in the midst of something. I'm not going to say what because I don't think it's fair to judge what was going on in his life when I don't know the specifics, but I think Gest is right here. Michael was obviously not in the right frame of mind. However I believe his words to Michael may not have actually sounded that harsh, he probably elaborated for the article/documentary. People often do that when re-telling stories. I can't really see him saying those words to Michael.
 
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Mj had no problems telling ppl to go to hell lol one of the most classic moments ever thanks to fox news! which is a first.ppl can say what they want its called freedom of speech. just like maureen defends stacy over her own bro tells u what she really thinks of mj. and selling off his property gives u a good idea aswell
 
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I see rebbie has just been on a uk morning show whos presenter hates mjs guts. should have been intresting watching! they are well suited
 
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I'm not a Gest fan, but I need some new MJ stuff badly...
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
I see rebbie has just been on a uk morning show whos presenter hates mjs guts. should have been intresting watching! they are well suited
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Yes I saw it, didn't say anything of any interest. Reebie missed a perfect opportunity to talk about Michael's pure heart and humanitarianism when asked how she would like her brother to be remembered, her answer: kind. Thats ok but it's not often you get those chances to focus on Michael the man.

Tito is on channel 5 shortly.
 
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elusive moonwalker said:
I see rebbie has just been on a uk morning show whos presenter hates mjs guts. should have been intresting watching! they are well suited
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LastTear said:
Yes I saw it, didn't say anything of any interest. Reebie missed a perfect opportunity to talk about Michael's pure heart and humanitarianism when asked how she would like her brother to be remembered, her answer: kind. Thats ok but it's not often you get those chances to focus on Michael the man.

Tito is on channel 5 shortly.
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What show was Rebbie on?

And excuse my ignorance, but why the hate for Rebbie?
 
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dmehta said:
What show was Rebbie on?

And excuse my ignorance, but why the hate for Rebbie?
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She was on Lorriane (Lorraine Kelly) 8.30 am. My post regarding the content of her appearance on the show was meant as a personal observation of the interview, particularly a missed opportunity, not meant to be read as any form of hate. :(
 
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I will repeat this again, Just because a thread is about the family does not mean that that person's whole history can be brought in a thread when it is off topic. Gest's documentary, just because rebbie is in it does not mean that we can then start discussing Stacy Brown, what Rebbie said at such and such time, etc. It is off topic and does not matter to the discussion at hand. Please do not bring that talk in to threads.

Thank you.

Also, people have to understand that some here feel VERY, VERY strongly about family members. As such, there may be strong wording directed at them. This is just at the point where we find ourselves. We can ask people to temper their comments to a point, but people have to be able to express this anger. Anyone is welcome to disagree.

In order for a community to survive there has to be a medium reached. People are going to have to give some allowances in order to understand their fellow members. Understanding how one another can feel a certain way, even without agreeing with them is important.

I'm asking for everyone to try and show fellow feeling and understanding and help one another more as opposed to arguing. A little compassion goes a long way. Compassion and understanding for one another whether a person feels strongly for the family or strongly against it, without snide remarks, will make this place more enjoyable for everyone.

(Oh, and JW's are Christians.)

Thank you.
 
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Memefan said:
OT: how can a documentary called " Life of an Icon" only covers his childhood, not his most important years? how is that MJ's life story? Sheeeshhhh...

Thank you estate &/or Sony for not allowing these frauds to abuse MJ's musical legacy further, by not allowing them to use the most Epic years (pun intended)
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OH, NOW I SEE!

Just as I suspected, i.e. The Estate Of Michael Jackson is not involved with this project. I figured as much, when the announcement was STRAIGHT-TO-DVD, instead of in the movies or at least on television.

In my opinion, when The Estate of Michael Jackson is not involved, you end up with a half-a$$ed project! Just like that so-called Michael Forever "tribute."

David Gest hasn't made any real money since he produced the 30th Anniversary Concert, I guess this is his "attempt" at another bite of the MJ apple.
 
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I am looking forward to seeing this tomorrow!
 
Katherine will not attend the premier to be in court for the verdict. She made the right decision, and I'm really glad.

[h=2]Katherine Jackson To Miss London Premiere To Be Present At Conrad Murray Verdict[/h]31 October 2011
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Katherine Jackson has cancelled her appearance at the World Premiere of Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon on 2nd November and will remain in Los Angeles for the closing stages of the trial of Dr Conrad Murray, accused of the involuntary manslaughter of her son in 2009.

The World Premiere event will go-ahead with Michael's brother Tito, sister Rebbie and producer David Gest in attendance to answer questions submitted by Michael Jackson fans in a global live Q&A to launch the movie about the pop icon's life.

Katherine Jackson has issued the following statement: "I am very sorry that I cannot attend the World Premiere in London of a film I so strongly believe in, Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon.

"Due to the verdict in the trial of Dr Conrad Murray possibly being at that time, I want to be present in the court room for reasons I am sure everyone in the world will understand.

"David Gest, who was one of Michael’s closest life-long friends, has done a brilliant job in enlightening people to who the real Michael Jackson was.

"This movie is a true vindication of my son and some of the terrible things that he was put through in his life.
"I hope people will watch this film and understand more
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source: http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/entertainment/Katherine+Jackson-101098.html
 
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Katherine will be in LA for the trial and will not attend the premiere.
 
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KingMikeJ said:
Katherine will be in LA for the trial and will not attend the premiere.
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Good. Her not being there would've been too much. I know some are trying to make money, but come on now.
 
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