Michael Jackson Life of A Legend is Number One

MooNW@lkeR · Aug 5, 2009

Where can i buy the book?

LiberianGhost · Aug 5, 2009

That book is awesome! I will be buying this book! :yes:

samhabib · Aug 5, 2009

MooNW@lkeR said:
Where can i buy the book?

http://www.mjlifeofalegend.com/buy.html

Great signature btw

Indra · Aug 5, 2009

I've got it!! =)

MooNW@lkeR · Aug 5, 2009

samhabib said:
http://www.mjlifeofalegend.com/buy.html

Great signature btw

Thanks, J_Cat made it for me! If you want one go to her thread and request it! She makes great sigs

alyaba · Aug 5, 2009

i really really wish it had a different cover since its the exact same cover of another MJ book, other than that looks nice.

FedoraHatGirl2058 · Aug 6, 2009

Wonderful

Anna · Aug 6, 2009

I just want to check before I buy this, it doesn't have any of the ambulance pictures in it right? Cause I just can't look at those pictures.

Ágnes · Aug 6, 2009

i have ordered this few days ago from amazon cant wait to get it

prismsagainst5live · Aug 6, 2009

it has one abulance pic, the one of the body covered by white sheet but its small. This book has beautiful pictures but the text is fairly bland and juvenile with little comments like "the allegations had him scrurring behind the gates of neverland" and captioned on a pic of the kids "note the masks". slightly dissapointed but just brush it aside. The fan tributes had me crying.

Gottobethere · Aug 7, 2009

Don't buy it

I'm a bit shocked that fans helped write this book.

I have to say i only got it yesterday and flicked through it but i didn't really like the tone. If it is for fan then just give us facts and not tabliod like comments on the inside cover it says "FOR ALL HIS CONTROVERSIAL PERSONAL QUIRKS"

On Page 11 this picture is not the bad tour.

Thriller was not the most expensive film ever in fact scream cost more to make.

Other quates from it:

"While he remained an asset who music business bean counters could rely upon with a compilation every few years, his days as a contemporary are over"

"while he was never convicted of charges laid against him in a high profile 2005 trial, the experience combined with money problems to keep him closeted in LA with his family."

"his 50 year old body, weakened by prescription drugs, might have failed to answer his demands"

and i've only started it.

prismsagainst5live · Aug 7, 2009

^ yes i agree. and who is it on the back cover of the actual book (not sleeve) in the thriller costume?

samhabib · Aug 7, 2009

Re: Don't buy it

Gottobethere said:
I'm a bit shocked that fans helped write this book.

I have to say i only got it yesterday and flicked through it but i didn't really like the tone. If it is for fan then just give us facts and not tabliod like comments on the inside cover it says "FOR ALL HIS CONTROVERSIAL PERSONAL QUIRKS"

On Page 11 this picture is not the bad tour.

Thriller was not the most expensive film ever in fact scream cost more to make.

Other quates from it:

"While he remained an asset who music business bean counters could rely upon with a compilation every few years, his days as a contemporary are over"

"while he was never convicted of charges laid against him in a high profile 2005 trial, the experience combined with money problems to keep him closeted in LA with his family."

"his 50 year old body, weakened by prescription drugs, might have failed to answer his demands"

and i've only started it.

Yes there are a couple of errors that are being amended for the reprint. As for the above, are you claiming that all of that is completely untrue?

"his days as a contemporary are over"? I've been a Michael Jackson fan for over 25 years... but when you're working on a book that will be around forever you can't airbrush history. The cold hard facts are that Michael Jackson, up until his passing, had released 1 new album in 14 years. By no stretch of the imagination can he then be described as a 'contemporary' act. That's not to detract from him, it's just the provable truth of the matter.

The devil is in the detail. A quote like "his 50 year old body, weakened by prescription drugs, might have failed to answer his demands" has the operative word 'might' in there. His passing had to be talked about. Where others would have bet on 'addiction to drugs' we at least balanced it with 'might'. As in, it's possible.

Thriller was definitely the most expensive video made when it was released right? I'm sure the photo-credit for John Landis has 'of its time' as a qualifier.

Gottobethere · Aug 7, 2009

Don't but it.

Samhabib. You say he hadn't brought a new album out in 14 years. What about the 2001 number one, 10 million selling album invincible. Are you really a fan? I think if you were you would have listened to the people that knew him that said he was in great shape or if you didn't beleive them then you would have waited for the toxicology report to come out. There is another part where you say he went scurrying back to neverland. Were you at the gates that day?

pauline · Aug 7, 2009

yep, you're right~~this bk is so good, not like the other rubbish!!!
i'vd ordered it and i hope i can get it early...
i can't wait anymore=]
hope all well

RIP Michael

samhabib · Aug 7, 2009

Re: Don't but it.

Gottobethere said:
Samhabib. You say he hadn't brought a new album out in 14 years. What about the 2001 number one, 10 million selling album invincible.

Where did I say that? My actual quote was

"The cold hard facts are that Michael Jackson, up until his passing, had released 1 new album in 14 years."

It's very simple. 1996 (no album), 1997 (no album), 1998 (no album), 1999 (no album), 2000 (no album), 2001 (Invincible released), 2002 (no album), 2003 (no album), 2004 (no album), 2005 (no album), 2006 (no album), 2007 (no album), 2008 (no album), 2009 (no album).

Which makes it 1 (ONE) album in 14 years. Is that clearer? Does that make me any less of a fan for spelling out the obvious, accurate fact? Please don't misquote me. Fans hate it when the press misquote Michael, it's not then fair for fans to misquote other fans. I never said "he hadn't brought a new album out in 14 years". I said he "had released 1 new album in 14 years." Very clearly.

samhabib · Aug 7, 2009

Re: Don't but it.

Gottobethere said:
Are you really a fan?

lilsusie · Aug 7, 2009

^^excuse me, what about Blood on the Dance floor?
anyway, i'll sell away my life of a legend cause i really don't think it's in depth enough. lol
it's not done out of pure love for MJ.

samhabib · Aug 7, 2009

lilsusie said:
^^excuse me, what about Blood on the Dance floor?

You'd describe Blood on the Dancefloor as a 'new' album?

bobmoo79 · Aug 7, 2009

I would because it's got quite a few new tracks together with new remixes, but I can see why it would be open for debate. Even though I would call it a new album, I wouldn't call it an 'album of new material' or a 'new studio album' for example. It tends to be called a 'remix album' mby most people, but again, that isn't accurate either because it isn't just remixes. I guess it's difficult to give it a definitive description.

It's easy to pick holes with something, so I'm not going to labour the point. Overall the book is a good effort and I'm pleased for you that it got to No.1 .

samhabib · Aug 7, 2009

I always thought of it as a remix album first and foremost. There are only 5 newish tracks on there - BOTD was recorded during the Dangerous sessions 6 years before it's release. I think Ghosts and Is It Scary were originally intended for the Addams Family soundtracks - can't remember which one. I wouldn't remember it as a new album - if it was, it would be the only adult Michael Jackson album not to hit number one on both sides of the atlantic. And for Michael's legacy, that would be a travesty for it to be remembered as that.

samhabib · Aug 7, 2009

bobmoo79 said:
It's easy to pick holes with something, so I'm not going to labour the point. Overall the book is a good effort and I'm pleased for you that it got to No.1 .

Thanks.

There are quotes in there discussing Michael as being the greatest entertainer that ever lived. But some fans will focus on one word like 'scurrying' and forget the rest of the book. Either way, we tried.

bobmoo79 · Aug 7, 2009

Re: Don't buy it

samhabib said:
Yes there are a couple of errors that are being amended for the reprint. As for the above, are you claiming that all of that is completely untrue?

"his days as a contemporary are over"? I've been a Michael Jackson fan for over 25 years... but when you're working on a book that will be around forever you can't airbrush history. The cold hard facts are that Michael Jackson, up until his passing, had released 1 new album in 14 years. By no stretch of the imagination can he then be described as a 'contemporary' act. That's not to detract from him, it's just the provable truth of the matter.

The devil is in the detail. A quote like "his 50 year old body, weakened by prescription drugs, might have failed to answer his demands" has the operative word 'might' in there. His passing had to be talked about. Where others would have bet on 'addiction to drugs' we at least balanced it with 'might'. As in, it's possible.

Thriller was definitely the most expensive video made when it was released right? I'm sure the photo-credit for John Landis has 'of its time' as a qualifier.

There are a couple of things that could be changed though.....I don't like the use of 'weakened by prescription drugs' either because we don't actually have the proof at this moment in time that he was weakened by prescription drugs. There have been many contradictory statements about his last few months/years and so we really don't know whether he was abusing drugs or not. As a pro-MJ book it should at least give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not trying to airbrush history because the part of history where we see the autopsy results has not yet happened. In fact, the people who were involved in the production have said that he was doing very well in rehearsals. They are the people who witnessed what happened in rehearsals and while it is possible they are exaggerating his fitness levels, they ARE THE ONLY reliable source we have. I don't think anybody would mark you down for using their testimony as a source for your book. I just don't think there is enough evidence at this point to start being negative to MJ about his use of drugs. We can choose the sources used in books and I'd rather you use the band members, dancers, and producer as a source. If you feel like you have to validate what you say, then just say something along the lines of "According to Kenny Ortega, the producer for the This Is It concerts, Michael Jackson was in good spirits and flying through rehearsales with energy and enthusiasm." We all know the schedule of those concerts was not particularly demanding so I don't think he would have had a trouble with the shows.

As for the Thriller video being the most expensive, perhaps it needs to be specified that AT THE TIME IT WAS MADE it was the most expensive. You could then follow it later by saying that Scream later became the most expensive.

Overall, you all did a great job on the book!!

samhabib · Aug 7, 2009

Re: Don't buy it

bobmoo79 said:
There are a couple of things that could be changed though.....I don't like the use of 'weakened by prescription drugs' either because we don't actually have the proof at this moment in time that he was weakened by prescription drugs. There have been many contradictory statements about his last few months/years and so we really don't know whether he was abusing drugs or not. As a pro-MJ book it should at least give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not trying to airbrush history because the part of history where we see the autopsy results has not yet happened. In fact, the people who were involved in the production have said that he was doing very well in rehearsals. They are the people who witnessed what happened in rehearsals and while it is possible they are exaggerating his fitness levels, they ARE THE ONLY reliable source we have. I don't think anybody would mark you down for using their testimony as a source for your book. I just don't think there is enough evidence at this point to start being negative to MJ about his use of drugs. We can choose the sources used in books and I'd rather you use the band members, dancers, and producer as a source. If you feel like you have to validate what you say, then just say something along the lines of "According to Kenny Ortega, the producer for the This Is It concerts, Michael Jackson was in good spirits and flying through rehearsales with energy and enthusiasm." We all know the schedule of those concerts was not particularly demanding so I don't think he would have had a trouble with the shows.

But by using the word 'might' we did give him the benefit of the doubt. Quoting Kenny Ortega talking about Michael's fitness wouldn't make any sense when discussing his passing. It wouldn't make sense to say 'Michael was really fit and full of energy' and then suddenly he passed away. You'd have to have some insight into what 'might' have happened. That's all. That's not particularly negative is it?

bobmoo79 said:
As for the Thriller video being the most expensive, perhaps it needs to be specified that AT THE TIME IT WAS MADE it was the most expensive. You could then follow it later by saying that Scream later became the most expensive.

But we did specify that 'at the time' it was the most expensive ever. Definitely on the John Landis photo caption.

bobmoo79 said:
Overall, you all did a great job on the book!!

Honestly, thanks. That means a lot.

Gottobethere · Aug 7, 2009

Okay i thought you said he hadn't released one since history but thats fair enough. I still don't like the tone of the book and i really find it hard to beleive it was wrote by a fan. The book seems to imply we should focus on his talents and ignore the rest as if there was something strange or bad going on. I am proud of michael not just for his talent but for his personality too, i love the fact that he let everyone know what type of a person he was and i'm not afraid to discuss it because there is nothing to be afraid of.

Once again real fans won't like this book.

samhabib · Aug 7, 2009

Gottobethere said:
Okay i thought you said he hadn't released one since history but thats fair enough. I still don't like the tone of the book and i really find it hard to beleive it was wrote by a fan. The book seems to imply we should focus on his talents and ignore the rest as if there was something strange or bad going on. I am proud of michael not just for his talent but for his personality too, i love the fact that he let know what type of a person he was and i'm not afraid to discuss it because there is nothing to be afraid of.

Once again real fans won't like this book.

It was pretty clear what I wrote. You had no reason to be confused about it.

As for your 'real' fans comment, I like it. Are you going to tell me I'm not a real fan? If so, what qualifies you to make that judgement?

Gottobethere · Aug 8, 2009

Don't buy it

I could say eleven years of watching, reading and listening mj, but i beleive i am a real fan because of how your book made me feel. I do think you are not a real fan, real fans don't leave any doubt out there, we don't shy away from his personal life infact we are proud of it.

thrillerchild · Aug 8, 2009

I'll be getting this very soon!! Looks fantastic!

Gottobethere · Aug 8, 2009

By the way i'm not just looking for a row i'm actually pretty impressed with your photos.

Gottobethere · Aug 8, 2009

Thrillerchild. Don't bother it's a let down.

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