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The voice on Monster sounds just as same as on Breaking News.
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Michael Jackson feat. 50 cent - MONSTER - its the real deal says 50 -READ!
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The voice on Monster sounds just as same as on Breaking News.
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Kinda stupid how for awhile now believers keep criticising non-believers, claiming they got no proof, keep saying we got it from the Jackson tweets, or just trying to make them out to be stupid and no MJ fans. But i don't see it vice versa much....
Ágnes
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true....the attack we get from them is sort of uspsetting
Some people choose to see what they want to see I guess.
Also, in the case of the increasingly silly (to most people) accusations that "Michael is not on the Cascio tracks" - people also hear what they want to hear.
People would come out of this with more credibility if they just said; "Look, I was wrong. I should have waited for the details & final album before jumping in with my half-arsed 'conspiracy theories' from the word "go"".
Chris_Jones
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Its quite amazing how quiet certain members of the Jackson family that shouted 'FAKE' from the rooftops have now gone rather quiet. To me that speaks volumes.
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LOL >] No.. I don= t want to say that... I have nothing againts to you >] >] >] I just.. This is really annoying that real MJ fans thinks, that SONY is able to put someone elses tracks on the michael album... Do you all know what would happen to son if this turns true? If really it won= t be Michael? I think SONY Can't afford this >]
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Again, i am not gonna say anything that i don't mean. Cause i don't agree. It got ZERO to do with conspiracy theories, it's not even a conspiracy theory. I simply tell what my ears hear, nothing more,nothing less. Maybe you and other people should simply RESPECT what the non-believers say. We already know you don't agree with it, we neither really care...just accept and certainly don't tell us what we shouldn't and should do. Jeez.
Chris_Jones
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I refer to my post above - Amazing how quiet the Jackson family members have gone so quiet after starting such a big fuss over the 'fake' tracks.
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Here is a clue how you can tell if Michael jackson is singing a song or not.
The difference between Michael Jackson and other artists and imitators is that Michael Jackson could sing any boring song and make it damn hot only because you hear his voice!
Now, if you hear a damn hot song and you are disappointed by the voice, it means it is not Michael singing!
In other words, "Breaking News" & "Monster", when you hear the beat and the rhythm you start bouncing, which is rather a positive feeling. You probably say to yourself it's a hot song. But from the moment you hear the voice you all of sudden feel bored!
As a matter of fact, the magic of Michael is to turn something boring into something hot, and the non-magic of imitators is to turn something hot into something boring only because of their voice.
To emphasize, i would also like to add that everyone here is dying to hear Michael jackson's version of "BEHIND THE MASK", why is that? Because we want his voice on that song. Greg Phillinganes's version makes you hear it is a good song, but not the right voice on it. that's why we are all eagerly awaiting to hear michael's voice on that song!
The difference between Michael Jackson and other artists and imitators is that Michael Jackson could sing any boring song and make it damn hot only because you hear his voice!
Now, if you hear a damn hot song and you are disappointed by the voice, it means it is not Michael singing!
In other words, "Breaking News" & "Monster", when you hear the beat and the rhythm you start bouncing, which is rather a positive feeling. You probably say to yourself it's a hot song. But from the moment you hear the voice you all of sudden feel bored!
As a matter of fact, the magic of Michael is to turn something boring into something hot, and the non-magic of imitators is to turn something hot into something boring only because of their voice.
To emphasize, i would also like to add that everyone here is dying to hear Michael jackson's version of "BEHIND THE MASK", why is that? Because we want his voice on that song. Greg Phillinganes's version makes you hear it is a good song, but not the right voice on it. that's why we are all eagerly awaiting to hear michael's voice on that song!
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I understand. This is probably due to the fact that is new. But time will tell, because all Michael's songs have become a classic. We'll see if these remain on the same level as all other songs. Only time will tell.
Agreed!
I can name a dozen MJ songs 'off the top of my head' that are less exciting to me than 'BN' and 'Monster'!
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^^ If Michael sang Breaking News and Monster you would like it even more 
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athina_livadi
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Stop this already, please!
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Ok, but let's be constructive, not destructive, shall we. Can we all at least agree that Michael (?) sounds different on Cascio tracks than on all other tracks we have heard so far? I just want to know if people really do or do not hear the difference between Cascio tracks and ALL other tracks, no matter if it is Michael or not.
Chris_Jones
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Lol twice ive posted regarding the fact the jacksons that claimed 'FAKE' have now gone quiet and both times the 'fake' claimers have managed to ignore me. You keep running with your stories, spoil it for yourself, but please - shut up now would you!
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Who cares what the Jacksons say? They said it once, they aren't going to repeat themselves.
I think everyone agrees on the fact that he sounds different on those tracks. No one can deny that, that's what this whole discussion started
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MJ has released many tracks where he sounds different.
Superfly Sister, Morphine, 2000 Watts, and quite a few others.
BN is just badly layered IMO, KYHU sounds like pure MJ to me. And Monster could be the mix too, or autotune added as an effect.
Superfly Sister, Morphine, 2000 Watts, and quite a few others.
BN is just badly layered IMO, KYHU sounds like pure MJ to me. And Monster could be the mix too, or autotune added as an effect.
I'm totally with you! It's something... you can't really describe... but on the Cascio Tracks something is missing! It's the MAGIC of his voice! And... people claim the "non-believers" question every new song now... but THAT is exactly the point: Much too soon for example, or Hollywood Tonight, DYKWYCA, Slave To The Rhythm... : There's NO question that it is him!!! And for me it became clear through those songs: if I am UNSURE about being it Michael or not... then it can't be him...
But everyone has his own feelings of course. And i don't want to convince anyone... I'm happy for those who believe it his him!BUMPER SNIPPET
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I am not talking about the style of music, but about the voice. If I listen to superfly sister and morphine I can hear the same powerful voice and with the same timber.
2000 watts, sounds indeed different, but you can clearly hear that the voice is slowed down, which gives the depth to the voice. But the timber, despite the lowered voice remain the same.
All I want to know, without disrespecting anyone's opinion, is how did they manage to change the timber? Technically it is impossible. It is like your finger prints or DNA. You can't change that. Even the twins have different voice timber.
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I think you are missing the point. Many of us don't need the Jacksons' opinion to say f it's Michael singing or not.
I don't have twitter and I even didn't read what the Jacksons had to say.
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And in my opinion all the believers such as yourself, are just deluded into thinking that its Michael on these songs, because you have waited so long for new music and now you dont want to be dissapointed.
I'm just coming right out and saying it, because i'm sick of the believers doubting the none believers reasoning for not thinking its Michael on these songs. Its being going on for weeks and we have just sat back and explained ourselves over and over again without giving it back. Up until now none of us have doubted your reasoning for thinking it is Michael on these songs.
Honestly, you talk about consipracy theories coming from this side, what about the conspiracy theories coming from your side? Like 3T are p***ed because they're material didnt make it onto one of Michael's albums, so now they are trying to ruin this one.
I've tried to refrain from arguing in the past few days because its just been constant for weeks, but for that to begin we all have to respect each others opinions and accept the reasoning they give for feeling this way.
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Guys, those of you who believe it's not Michael on those tracks, if you are so sure you should really get together and sue Sony after the album is released. And when you win you will not only become insanely rich but also will have defended Michael's legacy. And we'll all apologize.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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I think we'll get right on that, the first thing we need is enough money to hire a lawyer as good as the one Sony would produce.
Oh wait, none of us are that rich. Nor are we stupid enough to sue a massive company like that. Theres a reason that they are able to get away with things like this....
Besides it doesnt bother me that much that I would sue, in fact i'm buying the album regardless of the songs I feel are fake being included.
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with all due respect, these are just words. remember Erin Brockovich? that movie was based on real life events, when a lot of people got together (none of them was rich) and sued a huge company together and won. And it's not a single case on the US history when it happened, there are a lot more.
So if you are really that sure it's not him singing, you can either continue complaining on forums (where it's totally pointless and won't bring anything but more arguing) or do something about it.
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Its been a while since i've complained about the vocals being fake. I'm way past that. I've just simply been expressing my opinion. It honestly doesnt bother me much anymore.
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well said. thats why i dont post in these threads much. because the majority of fans dont seem to have the maturity or brains to be able to excpet other ppl opinions without acting like 10 year olds in the play ground. ppl need to get a grip and grow up and except evertone has different opinions on the vocals. so some think it is him and some think it isnt. big deal. if some of you cant handle that then u really need to get a grip and get a reality check when jan 4th comes round if you think this is the be all and end all of things