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Michael Jackson Estate funding Trust 30 Million for Katherine & Kids

Petrarose said:
Twinkle I just asked KOPV to not start that issue again. You know that side says the same thing over and over, so why do you allow yourself to respond? Now you know I love you and I value you your comments and will support you, so be strong and do not respond. You are not going to accomplish anything when you engage in this back and forth, because you are both not coming from the same starting point, there is no inclination on either side to be swayed by the other's views, and each has different levels of facts/nonfacts.

I feel if we ignore these statements that tend to burst into the middle of a thread, and does not relate to the issues of the topic, the person who started it cannot continue. Who will they respond to, if no one is answering back? I want you to be the bigger person.
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You're right I'll do my best to ignore from now on :huggy:
 
xthunderx2 said:
:lmao: am I correct in assuming none of them have any say????
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You are correct. Nobody in that family has any say as to whether or not the house will be sold. The Executors are managing the Estate -- ALL of it -- for eventual transference to Michael's children.

The question I have at this point is, though, did Katherine find out about this from the news???? And had no idea it was to be sold, and told Jermaine it wasn't for sale? Guess there isn't great communication going on?
 
Resa said:
Jermaine is still tweeting about Hayvenhurst. What in the world is really going on?





jermjackson5Jermaine Jackson

I'm starting to suspect Estate, or those around Mother, are trying to exert pressure. They need to shut up. Hayvenhurst's not for sale

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jermjackson5Jermaine Jackson

I've read report that Estate has '"again" confirmed Mother wishes to sell Hayvenhurst. This is untrue. Estate needs to stop talking for her

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Oh yes Jerma....
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Autumn II said:
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Or >
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Autumn II said:
Guess there isn't great communication going on?
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I believe it never existed between them. :fear:
 
Jermaine should stop whining on Twitter and if what the Estate claims is not true then Katherine should get her lawyers to file an objection. Seems to me Jermaine is just ignorant as to what's really going on.
 
When I see Jermaine's twits i hear this:

"You can't sell that house! Where will my baby momma's go along with all those kids!? I may actually have to pay child support!"

God, Jermaine go to your mother talk to her in private. Don't go on twitter and rant like a 13 years whose mother threw away his favorite video game. Also, it's not even you mother's house, it's your dead brother's. If you're so worried about, get your siblings together and buy the house from the estate. That way you can do all the crap with it you want.

It's really sad when a sixty something years old man acts this way and people said Michael was childish.
 
This is confusing...

I'd think the estate would ask Katherine if it's okay to sell the house prior to announcing it publicly. The estate has every right to do what they want with it, but still, it was her home for 40 years. It's common decency to let her know.

I agree that there must be some sort error in the communication process here. Either the story is not true OR the story is true and the estate has done all of this behind Katherine's back OR Katherine's agreed to it and Jermaine doesn't know/knows but doesn't want the house sold. Whatever the case may be, I think Jermaine should call his mother and sort things out in private, before he allows this battle to play out publicly.
 
Ok I didn't want the house to be sold but after those Jermaine's tweets I changed my mind and want it to be sold lol
 
I wonder if anyone has asked the kids what they want. It is their house after all, they may or may not have an emotional attachment to Hayvenhurst.
 
Who really cares what Jermaine thinks? Last time I checked he was not a beneficiary of the Estate.

Additionally, if he's so concerned he can report to his mother privately. There's absolutely no need to discuss such private matters on a public forum like tweeter. it's just inappropriate. Again, we're talking about a guy for really craves for attention. Doesn't he?
 
twinklEE said:
You're right I'll do my best to ignore from now on :huggy:
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Thanks Twinklee, and as Michael would say "God Bless You"

Jermaine likes to act as though he is in charge of Michael and Michael's possessions and talent. This is just the family again thinking that what is Michael's is theirs, and someone would have to pound it into Jermaine's head that nothing of Michael's belong to them. Further, the people he claims who are around "Mother" are her sons and daughters and the people they bring into her life for her to make money off her dead son's name. He should know that by now, because he is one of them.
 
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It's easy for the Jacksons to say they don't want to sell. but none of them actually contribute to the costs, even utility costs. Plus, they don't own the house and never did. For strictly financial reason, the Estate finds no need to keep and maintain a house where none lives in. They may as well get rid of it since it's unnecessarily adding to costs. They could use the proceed to pay down some debt.
 
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Thanks Qbee :clapping:
GUYS, PLEASE have some RESPECT... At least TRY to THINK before posting...
I only made it to Page 2 and I just wanna 'run' from this thread...
GEE, it's ONLY a house okay...

The Estate is doing a GREAT job and so is Mrs. Jackson... I mean, she's over 80 and she's raising 3 growing children... Just think how TOUGH that is, okay...
 
KOPV said:
The ONLY "fact" Elusive is what an individual thinks of the Jackson family or MJ is OPINION.. And I really don't think anyone here supports the family over Mike himself. It's just hard for some fans to sit and watch other fans talk crap about people that Michael himself never said 1 bad thing about (only spoke highly towards).... Like Michael does not know how his mother opporates and what she would do in specific situations. ESPECIALLY michael, he's known for his observation of people and its his Mother. If I am looked in a bad light because I don't think Katherine should be talked down about than that's fine and someones choice. And does not make me or other fans support the "family" more than MJ. Infact in (my opinion) it shows TRUE support for Michael to not turn against his mother when he respected her so much. Do I like everything she does? No! But I don't like everything my mother does either.. It does not make her any less of a mother! Side note: If Michael himself would not talk badly about Joseph after all the bad he's done to Michael, why should I say anything bad about Katherine because I don't like how she promotes, the times of it, and other things along those lines? I shouldn't.. She loveS him with all her heart and I would never doubt that, and that's more so than I can say of ANY of the people that surrounded him on a regular bases. GOD BLESS KATHERINE JACKSON!
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if you think factual contracts are opinions then i guess you need to read up on contract law and i suggest you go read those contracts instead of living in a state of denial about the facts that are written in them and signed by katherine
 
I see jermaines panicing about losing his dumping ground lol
 
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I must admit I feel quite sentimental about Havenhurst, but it would be costly to keep the place going and that cost is coming out of the childrens pocket. I think LaToya still has a chuck of it, I wonder if she contributes to the upkeep and the new renovations.
 
I just realised that Jermaine has a particular thought pattern. When he is unable to reach someone or change their mind about something, it is because they are being influenced by those around them. And he goes public! He is now doing with his mother what he did with Michael.
 
Autumn II said:
Totally AGREE. I think saying "fans are hating on Katherine" is far too simple, and without all the context. I don't know of ANYONE who started out, right after Michael's death, with anything but the utmost respect, support, and even LOVE, for Katherine. The thing is, I think MOST fans love Michael's children even MORE. They were his LIFE, and we all know that! We also know, very well, how he was trying to raise them -- OUT of the public eye. That was incredibly important to him, as a father, that they have normal lives, as possible, being the children of the world's most famous person!

Personally, I don't hate Katherine, and I call her no names. I do GREATLY dislike the things she has done, to-date, though. I dislike those things because I'm a parent myself, and because it was no secret how Michael wanted to have his children raised! This isn't just a "difference in parenting," but it's USING them, to gain money for others. IMHO.

There was no particular criticism from fans when Katherine sent the kids to public school. That was her choice, and was not unreasonable. But then, and increasingly, there has been cause for alarm. One thing Michael would NEVER have done, would be to use his own children to promote his projects and products! That would have been unthinkable! And for many of us, it's also unthinkable that the family is actually doing that! My heart was broken when I saw Paris holding up a bottle of Joe's "perfume." Horrible. I have NO doubt what Michael would say about that.

I've read the Howard Mann contract. That ripped it, in my book. Have you all READ that? The contract actually uses the word "EXPLOIT!" Katherine would be paid for trotting out the children, for public appearances, interviews, etc. (no mention of the children being paid anything, though). Those kids were required to go on Oprah! One of the major Michael haters during the trial, and after. If Michael were sitting right beside me, I wouldn't have to GUESS what his reaction would be! And I would say exactly the same things I'm saying here!

I do think it's NEVER good to call names, and I never do. But, it's entirely appropriate to love those children, and to be concerned for their well-being, and critical of those who would treat them badly. And now? I see a tabloid report that they may be on a reality show!??? I hope to God it's not true, and if it IS true, I hope that Michael summons the power to create a "demonstration" bolt-of-lightning, just in case anyone is confused about what HE would have wanted for his children!
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excellent post and true
marebear said:
There is no way Michael would like how his children been used to promote things. I think the way Paris spoke at the memorial and when they accepted the grammy for Michael I think Michael would have been proud of them. It's these other things like being in contract with Mann, perfume bottles, belts etc. They have to appear at the concert. Them on twitter. He kept them away from his business. Even people in the media who don't like Michael have said he wouldn't like certain things either. When his children are adults then it's a different story but for now they should have privacy and kept out of deals.
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exactly.


it's sad that the house is up for sale. i think they can do something with it as it's a part of history after all. but if it cost too much and damage the profit of the estate i can see why this is happening.
 
TheChosenOne said:
I just realised that Jermaine has a particular thought pattern. When he is unable to reach someone or change their mind about something, it is because they are being influenced by those around them. And he goes public! He is now doing with his mother what he did with Michael.
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Yeah, now Jermaine can publicly blast people without writing a song and leaking it. Makes you wonder what 91 would had been like with twitter. I can just imagine 'Word to the Badd' lyrics just being typed a rapid speed on Jermaine's twitter account.
 
The fact jermaine's tweet suggests he doesn't know whether it is the estate or those 'people controlling mother' who is responsible for the news that the family home is being sold, means he hasn't any more clue than the rest of us. I agree with everyone else, he should just stay off twitter.
 
Those ppl. Is that the same ppl who according to taj are running the fanboards.
 
The dark side that is making the fan boards be anti family according to taj in his tweets
 
elusive moonwalker said:
Those ppl. Is that the same ppl who according to taj are running the fanboards.
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Er, i'm not sure if you're referring to my comment posted just before saying jermaine's tweet suggests he doesn't know if the news of the sale of hayvenhurst is coming from the estate or from 'those people controlling mother' - (i rechecked he actually says 'around mother'). They're two completely opposing camps in the drama, so that's why i suggest jermaine hasn't a clue what's going on. The estate with their two executors who apparently have the fanboards in their pocket acc to taj versus the jackson family interest who are trying to fight the estate. However as can be seen from the famly division over the concert the jackson family interest isn't partic united and i reckon there are different people trying to get KJ's ear - randy made clear to call out trent jackson (a cousin? kj's caregiver) on his twitter q and a as being too influential with KJ and i'm thinking jermaine feels the same way. All we know is that it's one big mess!

If your comment wasn't referring to my post, ignore the above!

Edit - ah it was sarcasm, i was wondering what wasn't clear! Yes, we need to just get into the jackson mindset that everything is down to shadowy forces.
 
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Yeah i was refering to your post but i was being sarcastic interms of everyone blaming the "others"
 
I appreciate the tense nature of the topic but let's be civil here. The boards are independent from each other, this is a fan board run by fans and certainly not controlled by evil forces!
 
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