Merged: Psychics channel Michael

[PaceMioDolceCuore]

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I often wonder about this too. Why does there have to be that much suffering just for the sake of learning a lesson? Why is history doomed to repeat itself over and over again? Isn't there a better way?

I think you just said it yourself...'cause we keep repeating stuff. We insist to keep repeating history and so it happens...if we insist to do as "history taught us that"...We need to get bold enough to say eff it, LET'S DO IT, or we'll be done.

... If left unchecked the corporations screw millions, the dictators commit genocide, the villagers rape and pillage. But as I said... does your soul have to learn that raping and pillaging is wrong and terrible and hurtful by being raped and pillaged?

Question...who's doing the killing, raping and pillaging? God? "They who?? It starts with us, US..." (how I love that man...)
Now, I have had a situation in life where I seriously questioned just that. Why would a child become terminally ill, die a premature deatch, you name it. Now, did God force this child to incarnate? We chose so...The child probably didn't chose to come here to be killed but someone else bad the choice to kill that child. And it's all part of humankind, God is certainly not forcing us to kill one another. God didn't force us to incarnate. Is US that are capable of doing just that. It's us and our Free Will, we certainly don't have to.

...That's part of what it says on the Soul Type website. Mature souls are grappling with all the inner turmoil of having moved past much of the me-first vibe, but it's after the 7 levels of Maturity that we move on to being an Old Soul and that's where we finally get through to the point of seeing it all as one and how it interlocks and that it's all alright in the end, accepting that there are all those shades and that's it's ok, it makes sense.
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So, and if we are all ONE wether we realize it or not- whom are we essentially hurting when we hurt and kill another? Them or us? If we are One, interrelated anyway than we're doing it first and foremost to ourselves. What comes after that realization and when and where does that happen? Is it really going to be alright?

 

[8701girl]

You'd be pissed off That made me laugh when I read it. Yeah, well, it's not the worst dream ever. At least I could "remember" speeding along with Michael :wub: and heard him giggle once. It might sound dumb, but that was kind of worth the crypt. Kind of. Ok, the crypt sucked, but Michael was at least a nice thing in the dream.

Having mj in a dream is a good thing

 

[Neeve]

Also on the topic of reincarnation, it's interesting visiting a thread like this and going on a spiritual journey, it changes my perspective entirely of each individual's soul. Now when I see a person acting or doing something out of ignorance, I try not to react negatively because I now realize that they are perhaps just at a different spiritual level. Perhaps they are not done learning all their lessons yet (can't say whether or not I am either). It's easier to accept a person in that way because then I just think "well they are just at a different level right now. They will eventually come out of their ignorance." It even puzzles me as to why some people have been touched by Michael's soul, while others are not touched at all, but then I think maybe it's not their time yet for that spiritual uplift.

Yes! I feel the same way....I'm now always trying to see their "greatness" and I think it helps when you accept that people are here to learn different things.
The only problem I have is, I don't want to get into the habit of thinking about everyone "oh they're just a that level" or whatever....I know all levels are equal and are for different lessons, but I think it can be dangerous to judge people like that. I'm not saying you do that, I'm just trying to make sure I don't! You know?

Yes I agree with what you said about Michael...I just don't get why some people don't see/feel it, but maybe it's not useful for them right now.

So then I was thinking how my own family members are probably all at different spiritual levels. So, when they die and should choose to reincarnate, or if that is what they're supposed to do, will they do so immediately? Or will they have some time in the afterlife first before they reincarnate? Would I also not see them then because they went back to earth, or will it be something like part of their soul stays in the afterlife and part of it returns to earth? (that might explain why some people can remember their past lives) Or does their entire soul go back to a new body? And when they do return to the afterlife again will it be just an instant in time (like say a second) that I see them again? (if I didn't reincarnate also) I really don't know how time is going to work on the other side. :scratch: All good questions.

Yes, from what I've read - Journey of Souls - as mjbunny mentions, it seems a part of that spirit always remains in the higher dimension, so can still come to greet you even if they have already reincarnated. Amazing, huh?!

Ah, I was stressing about this regarding Michael recently. My mom's been stressing about this for years. I mentioned befoe she lost both her parents when she was just 23. So that's been nearly 40 years ago. She had a dream recently in which her mother appeared to her and when she asked about her father her mom said, "Oh, he went on! I thought you knew." So that's driving her nuts now. What did that mean? Went on to higher realms? Reincarnated? What? And so my mom's like...will I not see my daddy when I go???? Yes, all important questions. Something tells me there's a part of us that always stays there, though. In 'Journey of Souls' people said that as well. And then there's the freedom of dreams. Maybe if a loved one reincarnates before you get over there, they won't necessarily be there waiting for you, but you'll see them very soon anyway because if they're down here they've got to go to sleep at some point

That's a nice explanation but I totally understand why your mom would be going crazy with that.

I also wonder.....ok so in that book he says most souls seem to reincarnate twice a century nowadays. So, isn't it possible that let's say, my grandmother who died 15yrs ago has come back and is a child somewhere else now? Do I know her? I guess of course it's possible...

Maybe we were all old and grey finishing our last life when Michael started singing, and that's how we feel close to him!

 

[Flor]

Hi Flor :huggy:
I got server too, highfive!

haha cool :dancing:

This kinds reminds me of this Mr.Bean thing. It must take somewhat of a dancer to be dancing THAT bad. :wild:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXN4Byz17Ws

LOL That was funny!! thanks for the laugh :lol:

Neeve Love your multicolored nails! They would fit perfectly with Mundy's hippie shirt

To just reply to everyone here, I get what you're all saying about collective karma, certainly. And I believe we're here by choice to grow, to learn, to perfect ourselves.

Exactly! that's the point of being here right? To be the best that we can be.I don't believe we live just one life,we live many.Like for example , I die tomorrow...that's the end of this life and the beginning of a new one , in every life we live we have a purpose , a mission , something that needs to be learnt.Once we have learned all we were supposed to learn we are ready to move on , to pass to the "next level" , to the next life where we will have another something to learn , and so on...So our spirit grows in every part of the way until our learning process is complete and that's when we become free spirits ready to help, to guide others in need.

Hope I made my point, sometimes is hard to explain such things in english lol

 

[8701girl]

Neeve Love your multicolored nails! They would fit perfectly with Mundy's hippie shirt

I so totally agree!

 

[mjbunny]

Question...who's doing the killing, raping and pillaging? God? "They who?? It starts with us, US..." (how I love that man...) Now, I have had a situation in life where I seriously questioned just that. Why would a child become terminally ill, die a premature deatch, you name it. Now, did God force this child to incarnate? We chose so...The child probably didn't chose to come here to be killed but someone else bad the choice to kill that child. And it's all part of humankind, God is certainly not forcing us to kill one another. God didn't force us to incarnate. Is US that are capable of doing just that. It's us and our Free Will, we certainly don't have to.
So, and if we are all ONE wether we realize it or not- whom are we essentially hurting when we hurt and kill another? Them or us? If we are One, interrelated anyway than we're doing it first and foremost to ourselves. What comes after that realization and when and where does that happen? Is it really going to be alright?

Yeah it's us who in the end (collectively, I mean) do the raping and pillaging. I never meant to imply that God wants anyone to kill for the sake of learning how much it sucks. So it comes back to us... through our own collective whateverness that seems to leave the human race having to learn the hardest effing way, over and over :doh: But again, if it's not God making us learn the hard way, then it must not HAVE to be done the hard way. There must be a way, if only we would all just wake up and try, to continue learning without having to do it with the utmost pain. That must be part of the hope down inside that makes us strive to improve the world, because we know that even if we eliminate some sources of pain, it's still good for our souls as a whole. Another example: Do you have to shove the icepick all the way through your hand to know that it would hurt like a freakin' -----? You can press the pointy end to your skin and think, "Dang, that hurts" and pull it away. You don't ever need to stick anything all the way through your hand to know that it would suck. You've surmised this from previous experiences of lesser pain and from watching others do stupid stuff like that. :lol: So there are ways to learn lessons without going to the extreme, the hardest, the darkest. And because you know it would hurt, you're presumably able to understand (once you understand the basic idea that we all hurt, we're all made of the same stuff, etc) that it would hurt someone else. So you know if you jab the icepick through someone else's hand that's it's going to hurt like hell. The question is, do you have to DO that to realize that afterwards they're going to turn around and beat or kill you? LOL Ok, I'm just rambling now, but again about karma, light and shadow... if the darkest dark and the lightest light exist, I don't think it means we have to express those aspects so much in order to learn. But we seemingly collectively choose that stupid path time and time again. Or it really is just simply karma... cause and effect. One dumbass shoved an icepick through someone's hand 20,000 years ago and like a butterfly that flapped its wings, you're now being run off the road by some roadrage guy on a freeway so many years later :doh: Ok, ouch.

Love your multicolored nails! They would fit perfectly with Mundy's hippie shirt

:hysterical: OMG, totally!

 

[PaceMioDolceCuore]

Yeah it's us who in the end (collectively, I mean) do the raping and pillaging. I never meant to imply that God wants anyone to kill for the sake of learning how much it sucks. So it comes back to us... through our own collective whateverness that seems to leave the human race having to learn the hardest effing way, over and over :doh: But again, if it's not God making us learn the hard way, then it must not HAVE to be done the hard way. There must be a way, if only we would all just wake up and try, to continue learning without having to do it with the utmost pain. That must be part of the hope down inside that makes us strive to improve the world, because we know that even if we eliminate some sources of pain, it's still good for our souls as a whole. Another example: Do you have to shove the icepick all the way through your hand to know that it would hurt like a freakin' -----? You can press the pointy end to your skin and think, "Dang, that hurts" and pull it away. You don't ever need to stick anything all the way through your hand to know that it would suck. You've surmised this from previous experiences of lesser pain and from watching others do stupid stuff like that. :lol: So there are ways to learn lessons without going to the extreme, the hardest, the darkest. And because you know it would hurt, you're presumably able to understand (once you understand the basic idea that we all hurt, we're all made of the same stuff, etc) that it would hurt someone else. So you know if you jab the icepick through someone else's hand that's it's going to hurt like hell. The question is, do you have to DO that to realize that afterwards they're going to turn around and beat or kill you? LOL Ok, I'm just rambling now, but again about karma, light and shadow... if the darkest dark and the lightest light exist, I don't think it means we have to express those aspects so much in order to learn. But we seemingly collectively choose that stupid path time and time again. Or it really is just simply karma... cause and effect. One dumbass shoved an icepick through someone's hand 20,000 years ago and like a butterfly that flapped its wings, you're now being run off the road by some roadrage guy on a freeway so many years later :doh: Ok, ouch.

I know what you meant. :jump::hysterical:

 

[amygrace]

Love all the convo here! Can't go deep into replies right now though...my babe is desperately wanting to watch Casper on my computer right now...so I gotta make this as quick as I can.

there are actually 3 keys. You can have the feminine energy, or... (and this is weird, lol) you can gain access through the smell of the forest (like that earthy, musty smell of digging in fertile soil) or through ... and hb said, "Children." Right. Through the innocence of children. Those were the three ways one might find the entrance to Neverland. (But I don't think that's a free pass. You still need to be allowed/invited/something.)

Wow...I love this!! I think this is really saying something here. What a cool piece of info to get (sucky about the rest of your dream though..eep). I particularly love the "smell of the forest" part - because I toootally flashback to my childhood...and just FEELING that zest and playfulness for life...whenever I smell that earthy, fertile soil smell. Mmmm I love that smell...really connects me to the truest part of myself or something.

Like, take 3 young kids, the same age, same number and type of siblings, same home life, same neighborhood. All 3 are told to stay out of the street or they could be hit by a car and be in serious pain or die. One plays around and almost gets hit and thinks, "Yikes, I'll stay out of
the street from now on!" Lesson learned easy. The next kid plays around in the street and gets hit by a car, but not seriously injured. Lesson learned. The 3rd kid gets hit and killed! Learned the lesson bigtime.

Well, here I think you are looking at it from a limited perspective. Some things that may SEEM awful, are maybe not so awful. Certainly we would look at the child dying as a terrible tragedy...and did it have to happen for him to learn? For his growth? Well, maybe his mission wasn't to learn the lesson of not playing in the street...but to teach his Mother about grief. Or to teach other children in the neighborhood, who would have suffered the same fate if he didn't show them what could happen. Better to have 1 die than many. Or, maybe the child's Mother in this life was his child in another life, and he was careless or not as watchful as he should have been so his child (who is now his Mother) had gotten hit by a car. So in turn, he decided to come down and suffer the same fate. Or, maybe his soul wanted to experience a short life this time around...and that's just how he chose to go...again, for whatever karmic reason we may be unaware of. There's just so many things we don't know about why things really happen here.

Maybe if a loved one reincarnates before you get over there, they won't necessarily be there waiting for you, but you'll see them very soon anyway because if they're down here they've got to go to sleep at some point

This reminded me of James Van Praagh's book "Unifinished Business". When his close friend on Earth was passing, and he didn't even know about it, he started having dreams of her in a hospital bed...like he was there with her. Then one night he saw himself standing with a few other people and saw his friend leaving her body out of the hospital bed. When he awoke he knew she had really passed...and he had soul traveled in her sleep to be there for her when she went. So, yeah, even if your passed loved ones have reincarnated...their spirit can still be there for you when you die. This also makes me think of the dream you shared awhile back mjbunny - about being in the car with those women who saw a drunk driver on the road...I think that was it? I mean who knows...maybe yourself as you are in this life didn't recognize them, but they were kindred spirits or your soul family from another life and so that's why your soul was there at that moment.

Maybe we were all old and grey finishing our last life when Michael started singing, and that's how we feel close to him!

Totally! That's very well possible! Which would be pretty wild, eh? I had a thought kind of like this when I was first "discovering" Michael. I was listening to Human Nature, crying so hard over Michael leaving and not really knowing why...but feeling like I just KNEW him...like he was my dear friend. And the song? Oh my God the song...I KNEW that song deep in the core of my soul. I had the thought of me watching him in concert before I was even born. I wonder if I did? Then I wouldn't have to feel so sad about never going to one of his concerts in this life! heh


Reading some of this stuff on reincarnation and how life is just all lessons and such just gave me this passing thought...and I love thoughts like these...'cause it makes me see the "bigger picture" for a brief moment. I had this thought of Michael or anyone who has passed...just living their life, chatting it up with others on the other side, checking in on the "Earth play" every now and then...seeing the different acts people are playing and doing. As if the other side is just "backstage" of a play. So when someone is done playing their part, they exit the stage and get to hangout behind the curtains and relax for awhile...peeking in on the show when they want to, and just hanging out with other actors who just finished or are about to go on stage. Fun thought. I shall now term the other side as "backstage". Very appropriate for Michael too

Anyway, I'm off... love love love all around!

 

[PaceMioDolceCuore]

...Yes, from what I've read - Journey of Souls - as mjbunny mentions, it seems a part of that spirit always remains in the higher dimension, so can still come to greet you even if they have already reincarnated. Amazing, huh?!

I'll be honest, that part seemed a bit random for me in Newton's book.
Especially the description of the "older spirit" having a bit of a party for the newcomer by "dumping out the essence" that newly dead had left behind.

But in most religions and movements you'll find some mentioning of different bodies of men in which we seem to function. So a heck of a lot of people seem to agree that we have several bodies in addition to this physical one that we use in different "locales" if you will. I'll just be daring and throw some Theosophy into the mix, why not.

The Septenary in H.P. Blavatsky's teachings refers to the seven principles of man. In The Key to Theosophy, pp.90-93 she presents a synthesis of Eastern (Advaita Vedanta, Samkhya) and Western (Platonism, 19th century Occultism) ideas, according to which human nature consists of seven principles. These are:

• Atma - Spirit or Self - one with the The Absolute as Its Radiation
• Buddhi - Spiritual Soul - vehicle of pure universal spirit
• Manas - consisting of Higher Manas, the spiritual, inner, or higher Ego; and Lower Manas, the ordinary mind.
• Kamarupa - the "desire body", seat of animal desires and passions
• Prana - the vital principle
• Linga Sharira - the double or phantom body.
• Sthula Sharira - the physical body

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septenary_(Theosophy)

I'll typically experience an immediate interruption in the short circuits of my brain trying to process 500 different terms in Sanskrit.

After Blavatsky you had folks like Leadbeater and Annie Besant who tried to break it up a bit.
They basically also talked about 7 bodies, but also tried to equate that to the 7 Planes of existence. So here we'd be using a physical body on the physical plane. But at the same time we of course still have an Astral Body, a Mental Body etc that we use in the appropriate Planes- say asleep at night using the Astral Body on the Astral Plane, people who channel something like music or books would use their Mental Body on the Mental Plane/Planes of Existence.

Theosophy was further systematised in the writings of C.W. Leadbeater and Annie Besant, who established the Adyar School of Theosophy or neo-Theosophy. They described seven bodies, but they divided Blavatsky's higher and lower astral and Manas into two bodies each:

• Etheric body
• Astral or emotional body
• Mental body (concrete mind)
• Causal body (abstract mind)

Each "body" has its own aura and set of chakras, and corresponds to a particular plane of existence. C.W. Leadbeater considered the astral body equivalent to the kama principle of Blavatsky's septenary series. ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_body

This is where Newton would make sense to me because of course we have parts of us that function on other Planes- say our Astral Bodies and that's how you'd get to greet Michael at night. :cheeky:unk:

I loved reading Annie Besant's book because you get a wonderful start into that topic without constant brainfreeze and frustration.
http://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Wisdom-Annie-Besant/dp/1934935085/ref=pd_sim_b_4
Highly recommended it because things actually can make sense.

 

[Neeve]

Neeve Love your multicolored nails! They would fit perfectly with Mundy's hippie shirt

I so totally agree!

:hysterical: OMG, totally!

hahaha thanks! I always have bright colours on my nails, but it's generally the same colour on all fingers...but Mundy's shirt did actually inspire this, hahaha

Well, here I think you are looking at it from a limited perspective. Some things that may SEEM awful, are maybe not so awful. Certainly we would look at the child dying as a terrible tragedy...and did it have to happen for him to learn? For his growth? Well, maybe his mission wasn't to learn the lesson of not playing in the street...but to teach his Mother about grief. Or to teach other children in the neighborhood, who would have suffered the same fate if he didn't show them what could happen. Better to have 1 die than many. Or, maybe the child's Mother in this life was his child in another life, and he was careless or not as watchful as he should have been so his child (who is now his Mother) had gotten hit by a car. So in turn, he decided to come down and suffer the same fate. Or, maybe his soul wanted to experience a short life this time around...and that's just how he chose to go...again, for whatever karmic reason we may be unaware of. There's just so many things we don't know about why things really happen here.

well, you are a wise one. That's a brilliant interpretation, and I realise I did recently read about that. It makes a lot of sense.

Totally! That's very well possible! Which would be pretty wild, eh? I had a thought kind of like this when I was first "discovering" Michael. I was listening to Human Nature, crying so hard over Michael leaving and not really knowing why...but feeling like I just KNEW him...like he was my dear friend. And the song? Oh my God the song...I KNEW that song deep in the core of my soul. I had the thought of me watching him in concert before I was even born. I wonder if I did? Then I wouldn't have to feel so sad about never going to one of his concerts in this life! heh

I remember you saying that about Human Nature. When I listen to Michael, when I think about him, I do feel that...that I truly know him. I find it weird to think that he doesn't know me...if you know what I mean? of course, now things are different and I do believe he is getting to know a lot of us. But there's something familiar about him, and maybe this could explain it...hmmm...or maybe I'm just crazy...

Reading some of this stuff on reincarnation and how life is just all lessons and such just gave me this passing thought...and I love thoughts like these...'cause it makes me see the "bigger picture" for a brief moment. I had this thought of Michael or anyone who has passed...just living their life, chatting it up with others on the other side, checking in on the "Earth play" every now and then...seeing the different acts people are playing and doing. As if the other side is just "backstage" of a play. So when someone is done playing their part, they exit the stage and get to hangout behind the curtains and relax for awhile...peeking in on the show when they want to, and just hanging out with other actors who just finished or are about to go on stage. Fun thought. I shall now term the other side as "backstage". Very appropriate for Michael too

Anyway, I'm off... love love love all around!

Amy, truly that's such a comforting picture...I love it...:wub: and it makes a lot of sense to me!

Have fun watching Casper!

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I'll be honest, that part seemed a bit random for me in Newton's book.
Especially the description of the "older spirit" having a bit of a party for the newcomer by "dumping out the essence" that newly dead had left behind.

I see what you mean, but I think perhaps it was his description of it that was a bit off, rather than the actual idea. I think it makes sense that our higher self is always in that dimension, and I think perhaps it is more like some kind of spirit travel (as Amy mentioned about James van Praagh) that would allow our relatives to come in the form we recognise them...

But in most religions and movements you'll find some mentioning of different bodies of men in which we seem to function. So a heck of a lot of people seem to agree that we have several bodies in addition to this physical one that we use in different "locales" if you will. I'll just be daring and throw some Theosophy into the mix, why not.



I'll typically experience an immediate interruption in the short circuits of my brain trying to process 500 different terms in Sanskrit.

After Blavatsky you had folks like Leadbeater and Annie Besant who tried to break it up a bit.
They basically also talked about 7 bodies, but also tried to equate that to the 7 Planes of existence. So here we'd be using a physical body on the physical plane. But at the same time we of course still have an Astral Body, a Mental Body etc that we use in the appropriate Planes- say asleep at night using the Astral Body on the Astral Plane, people who channel something like music or books would use their Mental Body on the Mental Plane/Planes of Existence.




This is where Newton would make sense to me because of course we have parts of us that function on other Planes- say our Astral Bodies and that's how you'd get to greet Michael at night. :cheeky:unk:

I loved reading Annie Besant's book because you get a wonderful start into that topic without constant brainfreeze and frustration.
http://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Wisdom-Annie-Besant/dp/1934935085/ref=pd_sim_b_4
Highly recommended it because things actually can make sense.

Thanks for all the info! I always find it interesting that so many different schools of thought and beliefs have so much in common, just different ways of looking at the same thing.
I'm going to check out that book

 

[mjbunny]

Well, here I think you are looking at it from a limited perspective. Some things that may SEEM awful, are maybe not so awful. Certainly we would look at the child dying as a terrible tragedy...and did it have to happen for him to learn? For his growth?

Ooo, I love Casper! For the above, I was trying to say all things being equal, there may be different ways to learn a lesson, that's all. My friend Kim always says that when the same sh*t happens to you again, you must not have learned this lesson the first time. Her theory is that each time it gets worse until you finally freaking get it :lol: So if that's true then the Universe does try to teach you the gentlest way it may be possible for you personally to learn. If you fail to learn, the next time it comes up it will suck worse than before. In theory.

Totally! That's very well possible! Which would be pretty wild, eh? I had a thought kind of like this when I was first "discovering" Michael. I was listening to Human Nature, crying so hard over Michael leaving and not really knowing why...but feeling like I just KNEW him...like he was my dear friend. And the song? Oh my God the song...I KNEW that song deep in the core of my soul. I had the thought of me watching him in concert before I was even born. I wonder if I did? Then I wouldn't have to feel so sad about never going to one of his concerts in this life! heh!

Hey, cool! To know Human Nature would be a quick turnaround, but then maybe you just heard it as a baby or even in the womb? Everyone was playing Thriller about 500x per day back in 1984 I had a related cool thought the other day. You know how I told you once that my sister and I had both regressed to having been in San Francisco in the 60's and I think I died as a teen in the late 60's (which is a quick turnaround for both of us, but suspiciously possible since my sister also regressed to that without me telling her about mine). Anyway, there's a great BBC documentary about Michael and in it they talk about the J5 being "Motown's answer to the flower children", with the crazy clothes and the hearts in the logo, etc. Like the Motown hippies :lol: So if that past life is real, I've been alive TWICE while Michael Jackson was alive on the planet :heart: Then next, I was a hippie, so a member of the "love and peace" movement that inspired Motown to make up the J5 in that vein. How darned cool is that?! :hippy: Far out, man. And now I'm running around making websites and posters and stuff about love, peace and Michael :rollingpeace:

[/B]I'll just be daring and throw some Theosophy into the mix, why not.

Ok, that's WAY too much to consider at 7am when I'm still awake from overnight :lol: But it's interesting that you mention Theosophy (edited out)... Heavyweight Dub Champion and in one of the clips they mention it. It's in "Promised Land". (edit) The two founders claim that when they were kids they had visitations and visions of the "Last Champion" character they base the story of their albums on, but I don't know if they're just making that up or what? :scratch:They never say WHO the "Last Champion" is, but I suspect they mean Christ (although KRSOne and Killah Priest, who are featured on the second album are linked with a group that's a weird spinoff of the NOI). Or even our own higher selves, perhaps. But then in Warrior Divination II (part 2) they say those in charge "cry blasphemy". Well, sometimes I think about Michael ... because I'm weird and kinda crazy

(edit)

 

[PaceMioDolceCuore]

Ooo, I love Casper! For the above, I was trying to say all things being equal, there may be different ways to learn a lesson, that's all. My friend Kim always says that when the same sh*t happens to you again, you must not have learned this lesson the first time. Her theory is that each time it gets worse until you finally freaking get it :lol: So if that's true then the Universe does try to teach you the gentlest way it may be possible for you personally to learn. If you fail to learn, the next time it comes up it will suck worse than before. In theory.

Hey, cool! To know Human Nature would be a quick turnaround, but then maybe you just heard it as a baby or even in the womb? Everyone was playing Thriller about 500x per day back in 1984 I had a related cool thought the other day. You know how I told you once that my sister and I had both regressed to having been in San Francisco in the 60's and I think I died as a teen in the late 60's (which is a quick turnaround for both of us, but suspiciously possible since my sister also regressed to that without me telling her about mine). Anyway, there's a great BBC documentary about Michael and in it they talk about the J5 being "Motown's answer to the flower children", with the crazy clothes and the hearts in the logo, etc. Like the Motown hippies :lol: So if that past life is real, I've been alive TWICE while Michael Jackson was alive on the planet :heart: Then next, I was a hippie, so a member of the "love and peace" movement that inspired Motown to make up the J5 in that vein. How darned cool is that?! :hippy: Far out, man. And now I'm running around making websites and posters and stuff about love, peace and Michael :rollingpeace:

Ok, that's WAY too much to consider at 7am when I'm still awake from overnight :lol: But it's interesting that you mention Theosophy because I just uploaded a sampler vid of Heavyweight Dub Champion and in one of the clips they mention it, a-hee-hee. It's in "Promised Land" at 17:30. I know this isn't music that everyone will like, lolol, but I tried to pick clips of songs I like and/or have, well, kinda weird lyrics The two founders claim that when they were kids they had visitations and visions of the "Last Champion" character they base the story of their albums on, but I don't know if they're just making that up or what? :scratch:They never say WHO the "Last Champion" is, but sometimes I think about Michael
http://majorloveprayer2.blogspot.com/2009/11/hdc-and-why-they-kick-ass.html
(This isn't MLP, even though it looks a lot like it. It's my test-version of MLP that isn't, just fyi, lol)

P.S. It was in "Higher Elevation" (around 4:50) when I got touched the other day!

Okay that's too much English for my tired brain at 2:30 in the morning. :hysterical:

 

[mjbunny]

Ok, I just saw a white streak, like white light, but not glowing (?). I turned my head and it was a streak of white about 3 inches wide and maybe moving across a space around a foot or more, like in an upward whoosh a few feet to my left at what would be shoulder to head level of an adult. Either I'm WAY tired or...? :lol: I've never seen anything like that before!

 

[CaptainEoLove85]

Yes! I feel the same way....I'm now always trying to see their "greatness" and I think it helps when you accept that people are here to learn different things.
The only problem I have is, I don't want to get into the habit of thinking about everyone "oh they're just a that level" or whatever....I know all levels are equal and are for different lessons, but I think it can be dangerous to judge people like that. I'm not saying you do that, I'm just trying to make sure I don't! You know?

Yes I agree with what you said about Michael...I just don't get why some people don't see/feel it, but maybe it's not useful for them right now.

I see your point, and yeah I don't claim I know how it all works either.

Yes, from what I've read - Journey of Souls - as mjbunny mentions, it seems a part of that spirit always remains in the higher dimension, so can still come to greet you even if they have already reincarnated. Amazing, huh?!

Amazing indeed. :angel:

Reading some of this stuff on reincarnation and how life is just all lessons and such just gave me this passing thought...and I love thoughts like these...'cause it makes me see the "bigger picture" for a brief moment. I had this thought of Michael or anyone who has passed...just living their life, chatting it up with others on the other side, checking in on the "Earth play" every now and then...seeing the different acts people are playing and doing. As if the other side is just "backstage" of a play. So when someone is done playing their part, they exit the stage and get to hangout behind the curtains and relax for awhile...peeking in on the show when they want to, and just hanging out with other actors who just finished or are about to go on stage. Fun thought. I shall now term the other side as "backstage". Very appropriate for Michael too

Reminds me of the Shakespeare quote: "All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages." (and there's that 7 again)

 

[fan2202]

Hello dears, i am trying to keep track of what is being said here.. but got all confused ahaha.. the messages have to be approved by a mediator all the time? It takes forever for my message to appear and don,t find them anymore.. don,t even know if they appear.. anyway, hopefully one day will get there.. just to tell u MJ bunny that I am here and i keep doing my best hahaha..

love to all of you

 

[mjbunny]

^ I just emailed you about that. New members are now moderated at first to make sure they're not just here to cause trouble. You'll probably be approved for regular membership really soon

Hey, have you guys read the latest post on InnerMichael? Some of the comments and such are really amazing. And I love that Barbara has 'come out' with the MJ visit/dream/experience topic now
http://www.innermichael.com/2010/05/10/close-encounters-of-the-michael-kind/

Oh and here's a sneak peek of something to be announced later this week . If any graphics nerd out there has a sudden stroke of genius inspiration, feel free to improve on my ghetto banner :lol: (Oh, that's the small version. And why do png files always get blurry when viewed on the forum? That's just weird.)

(bigger version)

 

[StaceyMJ]

Hello dears, i am trying to keep track of what is being said here.. but got all confused ahaha.. the messages have to be approved by a mediator all the time? It takes forever for my message to appear and don,t find them anymore.. don,t even know if they appear.. anyway, hopefully one day will get there.. just to tell u MJ bunny that I am here and i keep doing my best hahaha..

love to all of you

I've approved you. Welcome to MJJC!

 

[darlingdear]

I love this convo going on here. I'm trying to think of how to respond but my brain is refusing to go deep today lol.
Just one point, sorry if this has already been answered/questioned but, I, for some reason, thought it takes a soul time before they can reincarnate and come back down? But I guess that depends on how advanced your soul is? Just seeing what mjbunny said about being alive in the 60s, so like, as you said, that's a quick turn around..
I guess it's all dependent on how 'advanced' your soul is? Do you think you can choose if you wanna reincarnate? (Sorry if this has been answered already..)

I had a weird dream last night, I remember saying "Slow down Tito, daaaamn" :lmao: I think I was hanging out with Tito last night..we bundled into a hidden corridor or something.

:heart: to you all.

mjbunny - nice banner! About the inner michael blog, the comments are really amazing. What an affect MJ has had on people :heart:

 

[Mundy]

Hi everyone!

I read through all the posts but I don't have time to reply. I'm going to the shticks ( the country ) in the morning for the rest of the week and I have so much to do before I go.

Thanks for uploading the pic Niamh! What 8701girl said made me think of the two Irish girls, colourfully dressed, hoping to attract a rainbow to find a pot of gold, lol. I'm in weird hyper mode today :lol: Are you ever asked if there's leprechauns in Ireland? An American fella asked me that one day and he was really disappointed when I said no. I kinda wished I had said there was. Sorry, I keep blabbing when I should be packing!

Very interesting conversations going on here. I wish I had more time to reply.

I hope everyone is having a good day :heart:

 

[8701girl]

I had a weird dream last night, I remember saying "Slow down Tito, daaaamn" :lmao: I think I was hanging out with Tito last night..we bundled into a hidden corridor or something.

You sure that chris tucker wasnt hanging round when u said that...

 

[8701girl]

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Thanks for uploading the pic Niamh[/i]! What 8701girl said made me think of the two Irish girls, colourfully dressed, hoping to attract a rainbow to find a pot of gold, lol. I'm in weird hyper mode today :lol: Are you ever asked if there's leprechauns in Ireland? An American fella asked me that one day and he was really disappointed when I said no. I kinda wished I had said there was. Sorry, I keep blabbing when I should be packing!

That poor guy....aww im feelin sorry for him LOL

 

[darlingdear]

You sure that chris tucker wasnt hanging round when u said that...

I did start laughing in my dream when I said that. Cos I did think of Chris and then I thought of that gif, from the Jackson variety show, of Tito running and the caption is that. God, that makes me laugh everytime, even just thinking about it :lmao:!

 

[mjbunny]

Ok, this is way off topic, but a great example of what happens when you stay up all night and just never go to bed. First I began thinking of how in the 'Recently Deceased' book it says on the astral you can go through time and revisit things in your life or go wherever you want. Well, I know some concerts I'd be visiting for sure! :lol: Next I thought of that Star Trek episode "Shore Leave", where they land on a planet and whatever or whomever they're thinking of suddenly appears and seems real. I always knew exactly who would come walking out of the forest for ME on that planet! :wub: Next my mind wandered to the holodeck. Ah, the holodeck :blush: But then... then... suddenly I was in Ghostbusters... ?

It's summer 1984 and Ghostbusters is the number one movie. Gozer has just asked them to choose the form of The Destructor. Now, I know if I was with them my mind would be all, "Oh God, if Gozer kills me then I'll never see Michael Jackson again! No! Michael!" ... and then the rest of the movie would go a little something like this:

Gozer: :alian: Choose. Choose the form of the Destructor.

Venkman: :nono: Ohhh, I get it! I get it! Oh, very cute! Whatever we think of. If we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us, ok? So empty your heads, empty your heads. Don't think of anything. We've only got one shot at this.

Gozer: :alian: The choice is made.

Venkman: Whoa, whoa!

Gozer: :alian: The Traveler has come.

Venkman: :blink: Nobody choosed anything!! Did you choose anything? Did you?!! I didn't choose anything!!

[All look at Ray, who backs away, knowing he just screwed up.]

Ray: I couldn't help it! It just popped in there!

Venkman: :brow: WHAT. What 'just popped in there'?

Ray: :doh: I... I tried to think...

Egon: :bugeyed Look!!!!

Ray: No! It can't be!

Venkman: :busted:What is it?!

Ray: hmy2: It can't be!!!

Winston: :wtf1: What did you do, Ray?! ... Ah, sh*t!

[We see what looks like a giant black fedora moving between some buildings... can't make much out yet... people are screaming... it's becoming clearer... wait...]

Ray (with resignation.... ): :smilerolleyes: It's Michael Jackson.

[A gigantic MJ now turns the corner and comes into view, moonwalking over cars, down the street in between the skyscrapers. Chaos erupts. Do we run away? Or run TO? :wild:]

Venkman: :swoon: Well there's something you don't see every day.

Ray: :doh: I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Someone I loved from my childhood. :heart: Someone who could never ever possibly destroy us! :group: ♥ Michael Jackson ♥.

Venkman: :worried: Nice thinkin', Ray.

Ray: :mello: We used to listen to Off the Wall by the fire at Camp Okonda...

Venkman: :no: Ray has gone bye-bye, Egon. What have you got left?

Egon: :bugeyed Sorry, Venkman. I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.

[The giant MJ now looks up at their building with a good, scary Beat It look on his face. :ranting Then "HooOoOoOoOoooooOOooO!" and begins climbing!]

Winston: :bugeyed Ohhh no!!!

[We must cut a few seconds here, because we simply cannot "roast" our giant MJ. No way. Skip to next lines...]

Ray: :doh: Funny us going out like this. Killed by a hundred-foot Michael Jackson?
..............................................................................

:hysterical: :lol: :hysterical: :lol: :hysterical: :lol: :hysterical: :lol: :hysterical: :lol: :hysterical:

If you didn't laugh I can only offer 1 of 2 explanations. Either I'm soooooo effing tired I am seriously on another planet or ... you haven't seen Ghostbusters enough http://stagevu.com/video/dltguivmrseb (at 1:29:00) In my generation you had the dialogue memorized or you were a total loser

 

[8701girl]

I did start laughing in my dream when I said that. Cos I did think of Chris and then I thought of that gif, from the Jackson variety show, of Tito running and the caption is that. God, that makes me laugh everytime, even just thinking about it :lmao:!

Hahaha i :heart: that gif!

 

[8701girl]

Ok, this is way off topic, but a great example of what happens when you stay up all night and just never go to bed. First I began thinking of how in the 'Recently Deceased' book it says on the astral you can go through time and revisit things in your life or go wherever you want. Well, I know some concerts I'd be visiting for sure! :lol: Next I thought of that Star Trek episode "Shore Leave", where they land on a planet and whatever or whomever they're thinking of suddenly appears and seems real. I always knew exactly who would come walking out of the forest for ME on that planet! :wub: Next my mind wandered to the holodeck. Ah, the holodeck :blush: But then... then... suddenly I was in Ghostbusters... ?

It's summer 1984 and Ghostbusters is the number one movie. Gozer has just asked them to choose the form of The Destructor. Now, I know if I was with them my mind would be all, "Oh God, if Gozer kills me then I'll never see Michael Jackson again! No! Michael!" ... and then the rest of the movie would go a little something like this:

Gozer: :alian: Choose. Choose the form of the Destructor.

Venkman: :nono: Ohhh, I get it! I get it! Oh, very cute! Whatever we think of. If we think of J. Edgar Hoover, J. Edgar Hoover will appear and destroy us, ok? So empty your heads, empty your heads. Don't think of anything. We've only got one shot at this.

Gozer: :alian: The choice is made.

Venkman: Whoa, whoa!

Gozer: :alian: The Traveler has come.

Venkman: :blink: Nobody choosed anything!! Did you choose anything? Did you?!! I didn't choose anything!!

[All look at Ray, who backs away, knowing he just screwed up.]

Ray: I couldn't help it! It just popped in there!

Venkman: :brow: WHAT. What 'just popped in there'?

Ray: :doh: I... I tried to think...

Egon: :bugeyed Look!!!!

Ray: No! It can't be!

Venkman: :busted:What is it?!

Ray: hmy2: It can't be!!!

Winston: :wtf1: What did you do, Ray?! ... Ah, sh*t!

[We see what looks like a giant black fedora moving between some buildings... can't make much out yet... people are screaming... it's becoming clearer... wait...]

Ray (with resignation.... ): :smilerolleyes: It's Michael Jackson.

[A gigantic MJ now turns the corner and comes into view, moonwalking over cars, down the street in between the skyscrapers. Chaos erupts. Do we run away? Or run toward TO? :wild:]

Venkman: :swoon: Well there's something you don't see every day.

Ray: :doh: I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Someone I loved from my childhood. :heart: Someone who could never ever possibly destroy us! :group: ♥ Michael Jackson ♥.

Venkman: :worried: Nice thinkin', Ray.

Ray: :mello: We used to listen to Thriller by the fire at Camp Okonda...

Venkman: :no: Ray has gone bye-bye, Egon. What have you got left?

Egon: :bugeyed Sorry, Venkman. I'm terrified beyond the capacity for rational thought.

[The giant MJ now looks up at their building with a good, scary Beat It look on his face. :ranting Then "HooOoOoOoOoooooOOooO!" and begins climbing!]

Winston: :bugeyed Oh no!

[And here is where we must cut a few seconds, because we simply cannot "roast" our giant MJ. No way. So skip to next part...]

Ray: :doh: Funny us going out like this. Killed by a hundred-foot Michael Jackson?
..............................................................................

:hysterical: :lol: :hysterical: :lol: :hysterical: :lol: :hysterical: :lol: :hysterical: :lol: :hysterical:

If you didn't laugh I can only offer 1 of 2 explanations. Either I'm soooooo effing tired I am seriously on another planet or ... you haven't seen Ghostbusters enough http://stagevu.com/video/dltguivmrseb (at 1:29:00)

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

THAT TOO FUNNY!

 

[darlingdear]

mjbunny - !! :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: !!

 

[MJfan10]

Hey hope everyone is well!! I'm hoping to spend more time in here now that I have finished uni

I haven't got much to posted but I had this dream last week.

I was in a hotel and looking for Michael. He ran off someone and I was looking for him. I eventually found him on a tour bus. He was dressed in all white. :wub: He was on the stairs going up to the top deck. I said “come down please, we can talk” He came down and we hugged. I remember thinking his back feels so warm. (I could feel him and his warmth) Then we were crying and Michael said “its time for me to go home now” (Meaning he and I knew he had to leave earth :weeping and then he said “I like to go now”

 

[darlingdear]

Hey hope everyone is well!! I'm hoping to spend more time in here now that I have finished uni

I haven't got much to posted but I had this dream last week.

I was in a hotel and looking for Michael. He ran off someone and I was looking for him. I eventually found him on a tour bus. He was dressed in all white. :wub: He was on the stairs going up to the top deck. I said “come down please, we can talk” He came down and we hugged. I remember thinking his back feels so warm. (I could feel him and his warmth) Then we were crying and Michael said “its time for me to go home now” (Meaning he and I knew he had to leave earth :weeping and then he said “I like to go now”

Aw, that's a sweet dream. Sad but sweet.

 

[MJfan10]

Aw, that's a sweet dream. Sad but sweet.

Thanks. I didn't help that I had it in the morning of my exam

 

[fan2202]

ohh reallyyy?? Thanks stacey!! youpiii i,m in.. watch out for fan 2202 )
u guys are super cool..and the subjects here are amazing..
now lemme see how it works..

As for the reincarnation of the soul.. i think that all goes with the law of attraction and the evolution of the soul. There are souls who are evolved enough to choose when to come. But most of them, the ones that keep moving by the wheel of desire, and lower emotions are simply vacuumed into this realm just by the law of attraction to situations that are similar to their feelings and thinking..I keep asking myself. If i were to be able to choose, would I choose again to come back here??? Well, i guess that depends a lot on finding Michael in the other realms or not LOL..

I have been asking myself a lot too if Michael has chosen or not this destiny. In my opinion, his life is way too metaphorical and his message way to strong and his energy WAAYYYY too beautiful and pure for him not to have chosen to do so. What do u guys think?

love to all of ya..

now will click on post and will see what happens