Merged: Psychics channel Michael

[mjbunny]

Oh! I just remembered one thing from a dream this morning. I know amygrace was in it somehow. We were going somewhere... in London, maybe? Gah, wish I could remember.

 

[Mundy]

Hey guys.

There wasn't a whole lot at the fair. Some stalls and a good few fortune tellers, palm readers, aura... readers? I couldn't afford to get a reading.

I bought a dream dictionary. The one I already had didn't really cover much. I also got a couple of crystal holders (not sure what they're called. They're to make necklaces with) some incense (one of them is coffee, it smells sooo good!) and tarot cards. I'm utterly confused right now trying to figure this whole thing out. There was a book to go with them but I was running low on money. I wish I had gotten it now though.

Hope everyone is dandy

 

[mjbunny]

^ Wow, how much were readings??? I haven't been to a psychic fair for years, but they were starting to get expensive back in those days too. Never even heard of one around where I live now -_-

 

[amygrace]

It could have been just stress that caused the dream, or the fear of hearing the TomTom...although I did feel better today, don't know why but felt kind of 'satisfied'. Hmmm...so it could've been releasing stress. Or the 'me' person was actually the anger of my dad, I've always thought he had problems with only having daughters, no sons.

Stress could definitely be a factor. I like what mjbunny said about the different aspects of yourself being at odds with eachother. What you said about your Dad too is something to take into consideration. I think you just need to take some deep breaths, zen yourself, protect your energy as I said...and all will be well. :huggy:

On another note - I read an interesting article about how death may not exist. FunkeyJay had sent it to me, ...

Thanks for the link! Interesting...and I completely agree especially with the part you quoted.

I miss MJ a lot today. I watched the Barbara Walters interview earlier and just the way he answers when she asks him about what if Prince wanted to be on the stage. The way he says I would tell him what to expect, etc., made me tear up so much. Just thinking who is gonna tell them now? Guide them? Protect them? I mean I know MJ is wherever he may be, but you know.

Aw I know what you mean. Watching those interviews now is just so sad. - interesting about the number 14 coming up for you lately btw. If it represents a higher spiritual plane, maybe it's just affirmation that you are growing and learning in the spiritual sense... and so your energy vibrations are rising to a higher plane.

Amy, I hope you are doing better girl. I am not THAT bad like yesterday but still not that great. :huggy:

Thanks hon. :huggy: I'm doing better today as well. I still have some restless kind of depressed energy lingering around but not as bad as it's been the past couple days. So that's good. I think my writing a song last night about how I felt helped to release some of that energy for me.

I found something interesting for you guys to read. This is a Pythagoras Square calculation. He was an ancient Greek phylosopher and I find his matrix useful for myself. Finally I found it in English.

Thanks for sharing! Interesting to read Michael's info. Looked mine up...seems all pretty right on too. For the most part. I've looked up this kinda stuff for myself many times before... this website doesn't give the best and most accurate read but well enough.

Amy, what you said about miscarriages touches on something I've meant to ask people in this thread for a while:

I'm wondering when you guys believe the soul joins the body? Being brought up Catholic, I always assumed at conception, but then, recently I started thinking, what would be the point of the soul being stuck in utero for nine months? Also, identical twins can be formed up to 2 weeks after conception, so it doesn't really make sense to say that it was one soul before that, right? This was one of the questions I asked Barbara too, and she said a lot of traditions believe it's actually with the first breath....I find this really interesting. It has intriguing implications for miscarriage and abortion... what do you guys think?

Well, my opinion is based off of what I have read by many psychics/mediums who have gotten their information straight from spirits. And as far as I know, just like most everything, it's different for everyone. I've heard that often times souls will jump in and out of the body throughout pregnancy... but won't officially stay in for good until they are going through the birth canal or taking their first breath. I read an interesting story about this recently actually. Well it was about children remembering their past lives or who they were before they came here anyway. This one little girl, she was maybe 4 or 5 years old...was telling someone that she had hated being in her Mom's belly because the blood hurt her. An odd thing for a child to say and there's no way she could have known this but her Mother had some kind of blood disease...or shoot...maybe it was that she did drugs while pregnant? Ack I can't remember exactly... but it was interesting. So that story shows that the soul did in fact spend some time in the womb. But like I said they can jump in and out, and as I've also read, in cases like abortion and miscarriage, the soul is not present in the body for that. Still, the physical body experiences trauma. Even if a soul is not present, the body itself is it's own system that can feel and experience pain.

FUJON - sorry to hear about your rough nights. :huggy:

:heart: This will cheer you guys up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV32glAHY0I :lol:

Aww! So dinkin' cute! Thanks for sharing that.

Well, when I put my info it was kind of... depressing. Apparently I'm a bit weird and totally obsessed with myself and don't care much about anything else. Just me, me, me! And I have very weak numbers for maturity (2) and middle age (1), so that doesn't sound too promising either (*checking lifeline on palm...* ... sh*t...) :lol: (LOL, my husband was laughing at me getting depressed about my selfish numbers and then he got the same thing at the top spot... Lonely Star. :hysterical:

Haha. Well, I got Lonely Star at the top too...but to me it didn't come off as selfishness...just self exploration in this life...focusing on my individualism and self worth. Funny though that it also said "Many Talents, Clouded by a Hot Temper, Hidden Sense of Superiority or Open Narcissism." Since I'm so artistic, I like to think many talents is true. Hot temper...eek, yep that's me. (I hate that about myself) Hidden sense of superiority... I don't think I have. But I guess that's because it's hidden. :lol: and the open narcissim - LOL - I don't like to think I'm narcissistic but I am a self portrait artist. So overall...was interesting to read for me.

 

[Mundy]

I was thinking about my grandparent's house today. I used to go out there a lot when I was younger. My granddad used to read tea leaves. I was told he was good at it but I was too young at the time to notice things like that. I hate tea but I used to drink it so he would read it for me. There's a fairy ring in one of the fields and my granny tells a story about how her aunt was taken by the fairies. She was in a trance and they sat around the ring playing guitar and singing. Apparently she was missing for a few days and she couldn't remember much when she arrived back. I haven't thought about that in a long time but my granny is adamant that it's true and it's not just a story to tell the kids and grandkids. I'm gonna ask her about it again because it's a long time since I heard the story.

edit: We were always told not to answer if we heard our name being called out in the fields because it was the fairies and they would take us away :bugeyed

^ Wow, how much were readings??? I haven't been to a psychic fair for years, but they were starting to get expensive back in those days too. Never even heard of one around where I live now -_-

It was €5 in, €50 for readings and the stalls varied. Some had great deals and others had crazy prices. I was there in the last hour though so they were knocking prices for a lot of things.

 

[mjbunny]

I've heard that often times souls will jump in and out of the body throughout pregnancy... but won't officially stay in for good until they are going through the birth canal or taking their first breath. I read an interesting story about this recently actually. Well it was about children remembering their past lives or who they were before they came here anyway. This one little girl, she was maybe 4 or 5 years old...was telling someone that she had hated being in her Mom's belly because the blood hurt her. An odd thing for a child to say and there's no way she could have known this but her Mother had some kind of blood disease...or shoot...maybe it was that she did drugs while pregnant? Ack I can't remember exactly... but it was interesting. So that story shows that the soul did in fact spend some time in the womb. But like I said they can jump in and out, and as I've also read, in cases like abortion and miscarriage, the soul is not present in the body for that.

That's what I've heard before too and tend to believe. Wow, that story about the girl and the blood hurting. That's pretty amazing. I wonder if we all remembered back to that point when we were really little...

Haha. Well, I got Lonely Star at the top too...but to me it didn't come off as selfishness...just self exploration in this life...focusing on my individualism and self worth. Funny though that it also said "Many Talents, Clouded by a Hot Temper, Hidden Sense of Superiority or Open Narcissism." Since I'm so artistic, I like to think many talents is true. Hot temper...eek, yep that's me. (I hate that about myself) Hidden sense of superiority... I don't think I have. But I guess that's because it's hidden. :lol: and the open narcissim - LOL - I don't like to think I'm narcissistic but I am a self portrait artist. So overall...was interesting to read for me.

:lol: But the rest of mine were like that too... like working for myself, lol. Yeah, some of was accurate, I'll admit. "Open narcissism", lolol... don't take it the wrong way but I thought of "I love my self" on Flickr :hysterical: "I want to touch myself!" ... I wonder if someone really make a vid of MJ to go with that music. Ok, anyway... yes, it was still interesting. And at least one of my was "eccentric". If it didn't hint at some weirdness I'd have seriously wondered about it... bahaha

update: LOL, so Asedora a Lonely Star too. Now it's getting interesting... So that's me, amygrace, my hubby and Asedora. What's up with that?

 

[amygrace]

I was thinking about my grandparent's house today. I used to go out there a lot when I was younger. My granddad used to read tea leaves. I was told he was good at it but I was too young at the time to notice things like that. I hate tea but I used to drink it so he would read it for me. There's a fairy ring in one of the fields and my granny tells a story about how her aunt was taken by the fairies. She was in a trance and they sat around the ring playing guitar and singing. Apparently she was missing for a few days and she couldn't remember much when she arrived back.

Hah, very interesting! Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if it really happened. I mean...at least connecting with fairies. Not sure about being taken away with them... curious to hear what your granny says now. Also, thanks for mentioning the tea leaves! I was recently reading about that and wanted to do it today but totally forgot so you reminded me!

 

[amygrace]

"Open narcissism", lolol... don't take it the wrong way but I thought of "I love my self" on Flickr :hysterical: "I want to touch myself!" ... I wonder if someone really make a vid of MJ to go with that music. Ok, anyway... yes, it was still interesting. And at least one of my was "eccentric". If it didn't hint at some weirdness I'd have seriously wondered about it... bahaha

Hahaha! No I thought of that too. Lol. But seriously, I totally didn't title that in a narcissistic way. I did that as a way of improving my self esteem. That's why I take self portraits, really, I guess. At first it was because I had no one to practice on and I am only interested in taking photos of women. But then, aside from self expression, it was like a way of helping me to feel good about myself. Like in real life, I totally have self image issues. (hate my skin, hate being so skinny, blah blah blah) so I take my photos and use photoshop to make me feel better. LOL. Man...that just seems pathetic now that I actually say it like that. :mello: Anyway, I got eccentric too! I was actually glad to see that one there. :lol: Oh and I messaged a girl on YouTube about making an MJ vid to that song but she didn't reply. Booo. I may ask someone else. I sooo want to see it done!

 

[mjbunny]

edit: We were always told not to answer if we heard our name being called out in the fields because it was the fairies and they would take us away :bugeyed
It was €5 in, €50 for readings and the stalls varied. Some had great deals and others had crazy prices. I was there in the last hour though so they were knocking prices for a lot of things.

50 GBP... ouch, that is pretty steep! I was thinking they'd be like 25 or something. Whoo. Amazing about the fairy story. I wonder what happened for real! And... being taken away by fairies... I guess that's the tradition to tell in Ireland to kids so they don't get into trouble Never heard of fairies taking off with me in America, but did hear about the Native Americans in the Pacific Northwest believing that the Stick People would trick you and trip you and take off with you into the forest in similar circumstances My ex-boyfriend was from the Virgin Islands and they had some wicked tale that he was terrified of as a child about some old woman witch figure who'd get little kids if they were out after sunset.

 

[MJstarlight]

I sleep very bad last 3 nights, feel very tired and when goin' to sleep, still feel like I'm not ready to fall asleep? And after waking up don't feel well rested. The last night was filled with a lot of nightmares, like movies, a lot of stories with a lot of stress in each and not nice experiences... Wondering why?*HUGS to everyone* :hug:

Hey Fujon! Do you go to sleep really late? I have been having trouble sleeping too. Perhaps try something peaceful before bed like reading a book, or listening to calm music. I could send you some if you want? I hope you are doing ok. Big hug to you too my friend:hug:

 

[mjbunny]

Hahaha! No I thought of that too. Lol. But seriously, I totally didn't title that in a narcissistic way. I did that as a way of improving my self esteem. That's why I take self portraits, really, I guess. At first it was because I had no one to practice on and I am only interested in taking photos of women. But then, aside from self expression, it was like a way of helping me to feel good about myself. Like in real life, I totally have self image issues. (hate my skin, hate being so skinny, blah blah blah) so I take my photos and use photoshop to make me feel better. LOL. Man...that just seems pathetic now that I actually say it like that. :mello: Anyway, I got eccentric too! I was actually glad to see that one there. :lol: Oh and I messaged a girl on YouTube about making an MJ vid to that song but she didn't reply. Booo. I may ask someone else. I sooo want to see it done!

LOL, don't worry, that's how I took it. We women are so critical of ourselves, constantly trying either consciously or subconsciously to look like impossible magazine covers. I get where you were coming from with that. I remember one time I was walking along a trail with hubby and I was explaining to him how the young chick with the great body that passed us probably thinks her thighs are too fat and wishes her boobs were bigger and that that's why she doesn't have a boyfriend right now :rolleyes2: This stuff is ingrained into us almost from birth. So sad. I have to say the older I get the less I give a ****, though. I just want to feel ok physically, like able to run or dance, etc. The rest is just ... "packaging", as Michael said. (But I know that's easier to say when you're married and not feeling as much at the mercy of others' judgement ~sigh~.)

 

[amygrace]

LOL, don't worry, that's how I took it. We women are so critical of ourselves, constantly trying either consciously or subconsciously to look like impossible magazine covers. I get where you were coming from with that. I remember one time I was walking along a trail with hubby and I was explaining to him how the young chick with the great body that passed us probably thinks her thighs are too fat and wishes her boobs were bigger and that that's why she doesn't have a boyfriend right now :rolleyes2: This stuff is ingrained into us almost from birth. So sad. I have to say the older I get the less I give a ****, though. I just want to feel ok physically, like able to run or dance, etc. The rest is just ... "packaging", as Michael said. (But I know that's easier to say when you're married and not feeling as much at the mercy of others' judgement ~sigh~.)

Worrrd. I do know that since having a kid...I'm not nearly as bad as I used to be. But I'm learning. It's a process...developing a high sense of self esteem that isn't wavered by outside influences. The body really can be a distraction... I try to remember that. That when I'm obsessing about how I look or putting so judgment on myself because of it... that how I look is not who I am!

 

[Neeve]

Well, my opinion is based off of what I have read by many psychics/mediums who have gotten their information straight from spirits. And as far as I know, just like most everything, it's different for everyone. I've heard that often times souls will jump in and out of the body throughout pregnancy... but won't officially stay in for good until they are going through the birth canal or taking their first breath. I read an interesting story about this recently actually. Well it was about children remembering their past lives or who they were before they came here anyway. This one little girl, she was maybe 4 or 5 years old...was telling someone that she had hated being in her Mom's belly because the blood hurt her. An odd thing for a child to say and there's no way she could have known this but her Mother had some kind of blood disease...or shoot...maybe it was that she did drugs while pregnant? Ack I can't remember exactly... but it was interesting. So that story shows that the soul did in fact spend some time in the womb. But like I said they can jump in and out, and as I've also read, in cases like abortion and miscarriage, the soul is not present in the body for that. Still, the physical body experiences trauma. Even if a soul is not present, the body itself is it's own system that can feel and experience pain.

thanks for the insight! That's a fascinating idea, that the soul pops in and out... that makes a lot of sense, actually.

 

[amygrace]

thanks for the insight! That's a fascinating idea, that the soul pops in and out... that makes a lot of sense, actually.

Yeah I think it's a lot like how we are now. Like now, we often astral travel at night (whether we remember or not). And astral traveling is our soul leaving our body, but, our body doesn't die because we have this sort of "soul cord" that stays attached from our soul to the body. So I read that it was the same for souls in the womb. They come and go but the cord is there. I think the spirit cord is made at conception.

 

[MJstarlight]

that is very interesting Asedora. Thank you for posting :flowers:

 

[8701girl]

111, 1111,11 etc are master numbers indeed. I see this number in my life very often and usually it matches with some events.
2222,22,222 are every important numbers too. But I think that meaning is not like 1111 menaing.

This is what I found about 222, 2222,22:

The highest sequence of manifestation/creation without the frustration. All words thought deeds and intentions will take seed with or without rain to help them grow. Moving out of the neighborhood of polarity. Time moves forward with or without you. Do not create by default, have a say so in your life.







I am lonely star but without hidden superiority. This part they got wrong about me :lol:

Gosh all this numbers stuff has got me feelin dissy! :lol:

 

[Bee]

WHOA :bugeyed Gurl, that is WEIRD. I believe you that you didn't dream it. But what the heck? It's one thing for it to turn itself on due to some malfunction, but where was it "going" that it had a destination to reach???? Certifiably strange! It reminds me of Denis Leary's comedy sketch about his kid's Darth Vader bank going off in the middle of the night at random moments and scaring the crap out of him: "Use the Force, Luke! *heavy breathing*" lolol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPOP5sQ0vcI at 4:40) But seriously... what more can I say? WEIRD. And that dream... weird too. Have you had dreams about being a guy before? I have quite a few times. Then one time (during a lot of personal stress and changes) I dreamed I was chasing a double of myself through a forest and then I killed her/me! I beat her to death! I was like... WTF? Psychological interpretation of yours I guess would say something about integrating male and female aspects of yourself... like they're at odds with each other... the nurturing/caring part and the part that wants to achieve for itself in the big world. Does that make sense?

Yeah that actually makes sense! Could be very well the case. Sometimes I try to found out how the dream may not be meant literally, but it's so confusing to find out 'hidden meanings' or something. I think I'm gonna buy a book about dreaming and see if I can try to combine that with my own thoughts, might be interesting since my dreams are always so expressive/vivid.

Hey guys.

There wasn't a whole lot at the fair. Some stalls and a good few fortune tellers, palm readers, aura... readers? I couldn't afford to get a reading.

I bought a dream dictionary. The one I already had didn't really cover much. I also got a couple of crystal holders (not sure what they're called. They're to make necklaces with) some incense (one of them is coffee, it smells sooo good!) and tarot cards. I'm utterly confused right now trying to figure this whole thing out. There was a book to go with them but I was running low on money. I wish I had gotten it now though.

Aaw too bad it was all expensive! But hey, you got a new experience & a good book.

Just wanted to add some more info about numbers I came across in case if somebody wants to read without looking for this on the net.

Thanks for that info! I got the 11 in my matrix...whoa. :bugeyed It SO makes sense when I read that.



Hmm I dreamed something odd tonight again...I was on vacation with Rebbie, hahahah. We were in Dubai and she told me all kinds of stories about Michael and his spontanity acts and what he loved to do. Can't remember what exactly she told though.:doh: After that we were in this huge palace with a lot of gold, very Michaelish, lots of space and beautiful ornaments, all very very bright (wasn't in Dubai though), it supposedly was Michael's home, and in the middle of the main room there was his golden casket. It was SO beautiful...hard to describe, but it had many white and red flowers and this huge thing build around it, like the thing from the Dirty Diana bed in TII..how do you call that?:scratch: Those pillars and stuff...around it and on top of it. But anyhow, there were all kinds of stones around it with words imprinted, to explain his whole life and what happened. There were a few other people walking around there too, just sitting and quietly remembering Michael. I think it was way many years into the future. At one point Rebbie said we had to leave again and then I looked over the casket, which didn't have a top on it, so I saw this white bright shining silk inside...with no one in it. Weeeeeird! Then I walked on and had to smile, knowing that I knew what others didn't and that there would be a chance that he was alive. Meh, crazy dream. :mello:

 

[Jacksonxo]

WOW! Honestly, I am the most skeptical person when it comes to this kind of stuff... but this sounds pretty legit. It sounds just like Michael. I don't know. I believe her.

 

[darlingdear]

:lol: My matrix numbers are 111, 22, 33, 4, 6, 7 and 999.
That website was totally cool though.
Thanks Asedora for posting that info on numbers too! :flowers:

mjbunny - thanks for posting that video :lol: so cute.

I had a really weird dream about Michael last night. In my dream I had woken up and there was a bed adjacent to mine and there was Michael, lying on his side hunched up all in black PJs. I walked to the side of him and didn't turn to me. I was like, that's weird why hasn't he seen me? Or turned to me, but then I heard him mumble something then all of a sudden he sat up and it was me! Like my face, with tears (I could see the wet eyelashes) but then it was Michael again (weird huh) he had tears in his eyes and said "I keep having a recurring nightmare (or dream)?" Then he said "Diana Ross" then bam, I was downstairs and I said to my dad, "Dad, I think Michael really needs our help, I think his vitiligo (? no idea why this specifically) and everything is really bringing him down, maybe we could give him some therapy?" I was really pushing it, wanting to help. Then I woke up and had a horrible night sleep afterwards. :scratch:

:heart: to all

 

[AfricanQueen]

I am always quite sceptic with Dreams because they really do constitute and represent our thoughts during the day or over time. I do dream sometimes and funny enough they come to pass. This is quite rare though. I have seen Michael in dreams and as we see his image about a lot I do not think of it as something special.
Then I had this dream, in the dream I went into an abandoned house. I noticed that for an abandoned house it had a very neat Lawn, close cropped. In the house were loads of Cobwebs (I hate them) but I went in and there was a television on at full blast with Michael on the screen in his Gold coloured Costume the one he wore during his Bucharest Tour dancing. I can not remember the song that he was singing.

The dream troubled me a lot because till today I am unable to fathom its meaning, I believe that as simple as it seems it contains a message for someone, I do not think it is for me though. Can anyone decipher this message?

 

[Neeve]

Yeah I think it's a lot like how we are now. Like now, we often astral travel at night (whether we remember or not). And astral traveling is our soul leaving our body, but, our body doesn't die because we have this sort of "soul cord" that stays attached from our soul to the body. So I read that it was the same for souls in the womb. They come and go but the cord is there. I think the spirit cord is made at conception.

Ok, that makes sense, thanks!

I had a dream last night that I was in some strange hotel, and I was babysitting Paris... it was strange, but a nice dream because I remember thinking "she's doing ok, she's happy, she's strong".

Oh I'm reading this amazing book, Journey Of Souls. http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269278136&sr=8-1 It's by a counsellor/hypnotherapist, Michael Newton, who gets people to regress into past lives but then focuses on what happens to the soul between lives... it's so so wonderful, I highly recommend it. It's amazing how so many different people have similar experiences and stories to tell. And it all just feels right. It talks about how you meet with your guide after your life and reflect on what you achieved, and then go to a higher council thing, and about meeting up with your spirit group...I'm less than half way through but already I've learnt so much.
Another interesting thing has happened twice when I'm reading it, it's been where I've been reading about the spirit travelling to its spirit group, and suddenly I've got a flashback...only really fast, but it's like the feeling you get when you're watching a movie and you suddenly realise you've seen it before... know what I mean? It's pretty cool....
anyway, just thought I'd share.

 

[mjbunny]

^ ^ ^ Wow, your dreams, you two! (I mean darlingdear & Mrs Music here.) In some ways I had two dreams that remind me in pieces of BOTH of yours! I also had a horridly restless night/morning/whatever... really hard to stay asleep and crazy dreams. And they were all about Michael. One of them was a bad dream, though. :blink:

Ok, first... I was dreaming over and over that we were receiving a message. It was a message being sent to folks in this thread and others who have MJ websites, etc. Gee, I just wish I could remember it! :doh: What I do remember is that everytime I would half wake up I knew that Michael was there, wearing white (I think), standing in like a golden frame (or doorway?) and there was a song that was a message. I'll try to explain. What I remember is think of an archway made of gold, or a door frame made of gold. (Very much like the bedframe for Dirty Diana, like Mrs Music thought of.) At the top were large gold circles, like big circles with designs like flowers imprinted into them (in a sense like coins, I guess ... but that's not what they were). It all meant something symbolic. And so Michael was standing underneath these circles inside the 'frame' of gold. And it was very clear to me that this was being conveyed to all of us who could accept it or see it. And the song... ugh... what was the song??? As I woke up I thought the song was "gold" and "Can You Feel It" made sense because it's a "gold" song to me. (Okidoki, lol.) But I'm not sure that was it. And as I woke up the last time from this dream I heard someone say something that I then repeated, "Things for Michael haven't been the same since the accident."

..... then I had a BAD dream about MJ, which I'll post in another one because it's kind of long....

.... Then lastly I was dreaming that I was in bed and Michael was sort of there then not, then there, then not, like lying next to me. The rest of it is all goofy dream stuff, like I was making tea and my husband came home and just random stuff. But then I left the bedroom and was looking for postcards I supposedly had about Michael. I was digging through a big box looking specifically for one with bright yellow flowers all over it. (No idea.) And then my husband said my sister had sent us a CD of 'movie music'. Weird. When listening you see the lyrics for songs on a screen and one was "Speed Demon", but it wasn't actually. It began like SD, but the lyrics were like he was racing because he was so in love and needed to get to his girl. Then came a part where he kind of talked or sang under the music in a way and I could see the lyrics and they said, "My love is so big it cannot be contained in one body. My love is so strong it can cross space and time. It's so powerful it can reach you." --- words to that effect. I was like whoa, how could I never have noticed those lyrics before???

 

[amygrace]

Wow you guys! Everyone is having Michael related dreams it seems...how cool! And they all seem to be symbolic in some way. Wish I was havin' some of that. I've been too wrapped up in my own stuff lately though. I don't even remember at all what I dreamt last night.

there were all kinds of stones around it with words imprinted, to explain his whole life and what happened. There were a few other people walking around there too, just sitting and quietly remembering Michael. I think it was way many years into the future.

Wow interesting. Cool that you got to hear all kinds of stories from Rebbie too... even if you don't remember them.

I heard him mumble something then all of a sudden he sat up and it was me! Like my face, with tears (I could see the wet eyelashes) but then it was Michael again (weird huh) he had tears in his eyes and said "I keep having a recurring nightmare (or dream)?" Then he said "Diana Ross" then bam, I was downstairs and I said to my dad, "Dad, I think Michael really needs our help, I think his vitiligo (? no idea why this specifically) and everything is really bringing him down, maybe we could give him some therapy?"

Very weird dream indeed! Wonder what it means, if anything...:scratch:

Oh I'm reading this amazing book, Journey Of Souls. http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Souls-...9278136&sr=8-1 It's by a counsellor/hypnotherapist, Michael Newton, who gets people to regress into past lives but then focuses on what happens to the soul between lives... it's so so wonderful, I highly recommend it.

Thanks for sharing! I've heard of this book before...I will put it on my list!

I was dreaming over and over that we were receiving a message. It was a message being sent to folks in this thread and others who have MJ websites, etc. Gee, I just wish I could remember it!

Oh how cool! Wish you could remember too but maybe it's something we all got on a soul level.

And as I woke up the last time from this dream I heard someone say something that I then repeated, "Things for Michael haven't been the same since the accident."

Innnteresting. You know, I'm really starting to think that is the case. I mean, going way back to the beginning when that was my first gut feeling on it, and then seeing how some people have felt they got that message straight from him before, and then looking at his palm...and now your dream... yeah. Obviously none of that is very concrete evidence - but all any of us can go really on at this point is our own personal feelings on the subject.

Then came a part where he kind of talked or sang under the music in a way and I could see the lyrics and they said, "My love is so big it cannot be contained in one body. My love is so strong it can cross space and time. It's so powerful it can reach you." --- words to that effect.

Wow...this...is just...wow. :angel:

 

[mjbunny]

Neeve -- oh, I know. I've been recommending that book to people for ages. I don't know if it's all right, but I think there's truth in it. I love the part later in the book when they talk about how your remember who the important folks are.
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Ok, so now the bad dream. You guys are gonna laugh, but it was sooo awful. It started out great. I was a teenager and Michael came to my school! He looked Bad-era and was wearing the Bad outfit and I knew I'd just seen him recently in Denver in a concert. OMG, he was sooooo gorgeous I about fell off my chair! He was there in my classroom, sitting there talking with us. :wub:My mother was sitting next to me (like parents had also come because everyone wanted to see Michael, lol.) At one point I must've gasped or something, lolol, and my mom said, "My daughter just ADORES you... can't get enough." Then Michael looked to me and said hello and thank you and then said to my mother: "You know, girls this age know a lot more about sex than they let on " .... WTF? I was soooo embarassed :blushing: It was like ... oh, isn't it cute how the little girls want me? Ok, true enough :lol:, but this was to my mother and then they both laughed kind of condescendingly, like adults do to kids, patronising me. What the eff? But damn he was gorgeous!

So then it was a few years later and Michael was back in my town and he remembered me! He asked me out on a date. :swoon: He looked kind of like in TWYMMF video. We were at my house and he was in the other room talking to my mom and (edited out something here, sorry) then a bit later we leave for the date.

I don't remember everything, but I remember that he mostly ignored me and talked with other guys, like a typical jerk guy... look at the ass on that chick... that kind of talk. :mello: Then we went into a diner and he told me to pick a table and he'd go order for us. There was a picture on the wall near the checkout that kind of looked like Heather Locklear. A guy at the counter told someone "I'll have..." (like a hamburger & fries) and then Michael says really loudly and points at the picture: "I'll HAVE THAT! Oooo! Hot! Who is that?" OMG, he said that right in front of his date? I was furious. How rude!! Someone mentioned that the pic is of Jennifer Aniston. It became obvious to me then that he only wanted the hot skinny movie-star type and so wasn't actually interested in me at all I told someone at the table, still with some hope, "Well, Jennifer Aniston and I do share the same birthday at least..." (true)

So bad doppelganger Michael and I left there and ended up at some house. He had moved to my city and was living downtown not too far from there. I seemingly had no place to live at all, almost like when I left my mom's house with Michael that was it, I couldn't go back. There were 3 other guys there and the four of them basically just hung around drinking beer and talking about girls and meanly ignoring me. I was so pissed and upset and hurt. How could he be THIS different??? Who'd think he's really just an a******! How could this be? :angry: So I started to grab my things because I had to get the heck out of there :no: But it was freezing cold out and I had no money and no place to stay. I mentioned this to Michael, not expecting him to save me, but maybe help me with an idea of where to go. He just said he thought there's some transient hotels down the street. Geeeee, thanks a lot. :angry: He didn't care AT ALL. I was about to leave and then I saw SYLAR (villain from 'Heroes') out front! What the heck is he doing here??? Eeeek! Michael laughed... he'd invited him over for some fun. WTF? Michael is buddies with Sylar???? :bugeyed

Sylar came inside accompanied by an old large man who pulled out a gun to rob everyone. (Sylar kind of disappeared at this point -- didn't see him again). The old man said to open my wallet. I'm thinking... wtf else could possibly go wrong today???? So the man took my measly $20 and robbed the others as well and then told me to go to the dining room and sit. Good God, I just wanted to leave! MJ and the guys were all just out of my sight hanging out by the counter in the kitchen. The old man then took something that looked like a metal seashell (?) with a deep pattern on the back and held it over a candle flame for a long time. I wondered what the heck he was doing. He then turned toward the guys and said, "Grab her!" to another woman who I hadn't seen before. She reminded me of a young Tyra Banks. Michael and the guys held her against the kitchen counter and the old guy pressed the hot shell thing against her arm, creating this huge brand burned into her skin! :bugeyed Now I was shocked AND scared! I looked at Michael, who wasn't holding her at this point, but laughing like this was sooo fun and I said, "Would you do the same to me???!!!" And he just looked at me laughing like, what's your problem? :angry:

At this point I saw the old guy go back to the candle flame and I was like ohhhh helllll no. I grabbed my jacket and made a run for it. I got to the front door, but couldn't open it all the way. I managed to scream the words outside, "HELP!!!! CALL THE POLICE!!! HELP!!!" before they pulled me back inside. Then I woke up.

W.T.F.???????? And this dream was between the other two this morning. I didn't feel bad about Michael when I woke up (thank God), but really shocked. Why would I dream that??? Is there a message in there or was it just some brain freakout? I was laughing about it with my hubby and he said maybe I had it to laugh at it, like just entertainment like a "mini-movie" :lol: Yeah, greeeaaaaaat. :rolleyes2: Any thoughts? lolol

 

[amygrace]

^Daaang mjbunny, that is some crazy shiz there! I admit, I did laugh at some parts... but I can imagine how it would feel to actually feel like you were living all that. Especially as it got close to the end...:bugeyed yikes. It's like you dreamt of Michael's alter ego...his evil twin. :evil: Not sure what to make of it all. Maybe it's all just some crazy subconscious stuff combining your fears and your old bad dates. lol.

 

[CaptainEoLove85]

That was a pretty epic dream mjbunny, and yeah I did laugh at it. Evil Michael? :mello:

I've been having trouble remembering my dreams lately, but last night I think I was half awake/asleep and crying for Michael.

 

[mjbunny]

I don't think it was Michael. I think it was either Micheal or even Jichael Mackson, the evil doppelganger who pretends to be MJ in dreams. But he's not MJ. He JM. No offense if those are you initials, but this JM should be avoided at all costs :lol: Wasn't that bizarre?

I've only ever had one other dream about MJ being mean to me. And that one felt totally real, like afterwards I was like It was back around 2000/2001 and I was wandering down an alley and heard music coming from a door. It was a recording studio. And it was Michael! Wow! I hadn't dreamed of him for a long time. I really missed him. I didn't want to bother him, but thought I'd just quickly say hi. I poked my head in and said, "Hi, Michael! I thought that was you!" and he looked at me with no recognition and said, "Who are you?" I was so like... huh... what? But I know he knows me! I said, "Michael, don't you remember me?" and maybe a few more words back and forth and then he YELLED at me, "Get the hell out!" and I apologized profusely and went back into the alley crying and woke up all confused, lol. :boohoo: And I have to say that during that period of time, for unknown reasons I did feel a bit disconnected from him ... like around Invincible. I don't know why really. I wonder if it will make sense someday. I'm not saying because of the dream, but maybe the dream was part of the whole scenario. It was like energy had changed and I was, well, disconnected but still loving him. I can't explain it. Weird. Anyway...

At least today's dream didn't feel 'real' like that. When I woke up I didn't feel anything negative toward Michael at all, just like... huh? LOL. Sooooo weird.

 

[xo_lola_xo]

I had a dream that I vaguly remember.

Me and Mike were in a boat and there were sharks around us :mello:

Either it means something dark is going on in the MJ world or I'm watching too much Titanic.

and mjbunny, that latest dream sounds heartbreaking.

 

[Flor]

I had a dream that I vaguly remember.

Me and Mike were in a boat and there were sharks around us :mello:

Either it means something dark is going on in the MJ world or [/b]I'm watching too much Titanic.

lol you made me laugh! Anyway I hope there's nothing bad going ...


On another subject , maybe you can help me with this guys... I've moved to an apartment and I want to do some kind of "energy claning" , there's nothing bad or weird going on , but I think it's a good idea due to it's a new place and I want it to have good vibes. Any idea of how can I do that? Maybe light candles?

God! the number 11 has been following me for a couple of days! And now I look the time of my post and what? 11:11 :lol:

 

[mjbunny]

Hi Flor. The classic is a smudge stick (bundle of sage you can buy at metaphysical bookstores). If you don't have that, yes you can use candles or incense or a chime or bell. But you don't have to use any physical thing. It does help reinforce it in your mind, though. One we used to do is to sit in the center of your apartment and imagine a negativity-sucking tornado form from glowing light energy. Imagine it in your mind going all around your place and taking out anything funky. Then let it blow out the door or window and into the ground, where the gunk is stuck and reabsorbed. Or you call upon angels (like what amygrace has written... calling archangel Michael to dispel anything negative and then imagine your whole place is filled with pure light). Then you can walk the perimeter of your apartment inside with your incense or candle or bell or broom or wand or or or (whatever works for you) and basically 'draw the line' ... "nothing and no one may enter this apartment without my permission" or "only positive energy is allowed to pass into my apartment if and when it is needed". Those are some things I've found work. There are many methods, though