LMP on Oprah 21/10/10 All Discussion Here - UPDATE Video's Start On Page 63

[StacyJ]

Why say this now? When others dwelled on the positives she said, nothing was said from you. So don't now get upset when some choose to express they overall enjoyed the interview too.

The fact that a hardcore hater like you is so quiet right now, tells me she didn't give you what you wanted.

why not answer the question that I posed to you?

 

[LoveMJackson]

Too late, Lisa. This interview is good for who? Michael is not here anymore..just when he died she started to feel guilty?

 

[StacyJ]

Too late, Lisa. This interview is good for who? Michael is not here anymore..just when he died she started to feel guilty?

I totally agree

 

[Jabz]

I don't see why everyone thinks the doc from 1995 was telling the truth. If you've just treated one of the most powerful people in the world and they tell you not to tell the world about their drug problem, your not gonna do it are you?

 

[Graf]

I don't see why everyone thinks the doc from 1995 was telling the truth. If you've just treated one of the most powerful people in the world and they tell you not to tell the world about their drug problem, your not gonna do it are you?

Exactly, it happens, a lot, and if you have power/fame/money, then it can easily be done, not saying that is what was in this case

 

[twinklEE]

With this interview she wanted to soothe her pain, and lessen the guilt she is feeling inside. This interview did nothing for Michael is not here anymore, she can rock them babies she's got to sleep everyday while crying her hear out, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[StacyJ]

With this interview she wanted to soothe her pain, and lessen the guilt she is feeling inside. This interview did nothing for Michael is not here anymore, she can rock them babies she's got to sleep everyday while crying her hear out.

I totally agree.. it's too little too late. Mike is dead.. He can't hear a word of it.

 

[ginvid]

It would seem just stupid and blind first inform 'I wasn't there with them' and then afterwards say 'No, he definitely did not do anything'. Lisa doesn't really want to look stupid because she is not. If I was Lisa in the same situation I would say the same. Only the boy and Michael know what they did. And if there's proof against the boy then there is but it does not have anything to do with Lisa. I don't understand the point of many people who say Lisa's words are not defending. They means she TRUSTED Michael on that. If someone i.e. murders someone you can't say no he didn't neither yes he did if you just have no any kind of a proof..

You know, I keep reading your posts and you continue to amaze me. I hope there is a language barrier because you couldn't possibly be saying some of the things you are saying on purpose. I really want to tell you a few things, but I don't want to get banned. But let me just say, that your constant defending of Lisa no matter what she does is annoying. I know we have some here that will deny MJ did anything wrong in his life, but this is an MJ board so it is expected.

I find you very... how can I say this without getting in trouble??? I can't. So I will leave it there.

 

[Justice_MJ]

I don;'t remember her saying that. can you give the exact quote? What I remember is her words that she saw several indications from which she believed there was drug use. To me, her words equal an assumption. She didn't KNOW, she BELIEVED - there's a huge difference.

You know, that's the point. People always tend to interprete things she says as negative for the most part. I don't know why that is...

I liked the interview because among other things she said the truth. She admitted she made mistakes, both were stubborn, she admitted that they were in an on-off relationship for four years after the divorce.
She said some things of which she could be sure that people will hate her for it. The interview wasn't an attempt for her to gain sympathy. Anyone who doesn't believe at least now that both of them loved each other must be crazy or don't think straigt.
I love the way she spoke about him with so much love, respect and passion. He was her whole world!

 

[ivy]

I don't see why everyone thinks the doc from 1995 was telling the truth. If you've just treated one of the most powerful people in the world and they tell you not to tell the world about their drug problem, your not gonna do it are you?

the interview with him (quoted a few posts above) is done after Michael's death in 2009 - he still maintains the same story. This was the time doctors, friends, family, lawyers etc was talking about drugs in his life. He could have changed his story easily then but he didn't.

 

[ASIS]

this bit also upset me,

There was nothing to be upset about. Truth is, none of can say with 100% certainty because we are witnesses. Judging from the evidence, it's obvious that there was nothing inappropriate happening between MJ and the children. But as his former wife she needs to answer with complete honesty. She said she saw nothing wrong, she said she doesn't believe in the allegations. That's enough.

 

[ginvid]

I don't see why everyone thinks the doc from 1995 was telling the truth. If you've just treated one of the most powerful people in the world and they tell you not to tell the world about their drug problem, your not gonna do it are you?

Why do you think he is lying? He said the only ones he told MJ's condition to was the family members MJ said it was ok to. It was not about telling the world. People here are willing to believe anybody over MJ. What anybody else says is plausible and what MJ says and what anyone says that affirms that must be the lies. It is just like he said, if someone says something outlandish about him, it must be true. But if he says something it must be a lie. SMH.

 

[JMie]

I don't see why everyone thinks the doc from 1995 was telling the truth. If you've just treated one of the most powerful people in the world and they tell you not to tell the world about their drug problem, your not gonna do it are you?

what I don't understand is why some people aren't willing to give Michael the benefit of the doubt. there are some proven facts (like some doctors' comments, the coroner's report, reports from people who really were there (like T-Mez, bodyguards, etc) and there are assumptions from people who weren't really around much even though they are relatives or an ex-wife. So why do you choose assumptions? Why can't you wait till it's a proven fact before jumping to conclusions?

 

[Memefan]

It's not that I am bashing Lisa. On the contrary, I feel really sorry for her. I believe she's hurting and it will take a long time for her to heal.

Yet, there are facts that we shouldn't ignore. Here, I found the article:

:bugeyed

He also denied MJ had vitiligo & lupus...both immune diseases. Whhhhaaaattt?

 

[SimplyMagic]

Those of you that are OK with the way LMP answered the question about the child molestation charges...........If tomorrow you are accused of child molestation and your spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend etc. is asked the same question (on national tv) LMP was asked, and if their response was the same........I don't know, I wasn't in the room. How would YOU feel about it? Would you still feel like that person really loved you and believed in you? Think about it.

I guarantee you that if Mrs. K. Jackson is asked the same question, she won't respond by saying ----I don't know, I wasn't in the room.

 

[JMie]

:bugeyed

He also denied MJ had vitiligo & lupus...both immune diseases. Whhhhaaaattt?

vitiligo and lupus are autoimmune diseases. If I am not mistaken "autoimmune" is different from "immune" (as in "Acquired immune deficiency syndrome"). It was AIDS that was denied in the statement. Not vitiligo or lupus.

 

[ivy]

:bugeyed

He also denied MJ had vitiligo & lupus...both immune diseases. Whhhhaaaattt?

he denied AIDS rumors by saying a general term. He is an emergency doctor I do not think he did or could diagnose vitiligo and lupus with the tests that he has done during the course of the treatment.

 

[Graf]

vitiligo and lupus are autoimmune diseases. If I am not mistaken "autoimmune" is different from "immune".

I don't think there is such thing as an "Immune Disease" is there? :scratch:

 

[JMie]

I don't think there is such thing as an "Immune Disease" is there? :scratch:

I am not sure about the terms, I am not a medical expert There's an "immune system of a human organism", there's an "autoimmune disease" and there's "acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS)". All three are different things.

Anyway, I see this quote

Alleyne was blunt with the world, saying Jackson did not have any immune system problems because rumors about AIDS were swirling.

as an indication that the doctor just denied the AIDS rumours. I mean he couldn't have denied vitiligo because by that time Michael had already told the world about it several years before. As for lupus, I read it can't be easily diagnosed when it's in remission.

Please correct me if I am wrong, though.

 

[ivy]

I don't think there is such thing as an "Immune Disease" is there? :scratch:

yep there's immune system diseases .

Immune system can be under active which includes diseases as AIDS.

Autoimmune is when the immune system to attack your own body's cells and tissues by mistake which includes lupus and vitiligo.

Immune system diseases is the general term, autoimmune is a specific subset of immune disorder.

Regardless like I said an emergency doctor wouldn't be able to diagnose vitiligo and lupus in his treatment process and deny or confirm it. Aids can be examined with blood test, I believe lupus is a more detailed process and an emergency doctor wouldn't be looking into dermatological issues.

 

[Graf]

^ Ah Ok, Thank you JMie and Ivy ..I don't know much about that kind of stuff..

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

:bugeyed

He also denied MJ had vitiligo & lupus...both immune diseases. Whhhhaaaattt?

He? Who's he? Cause denying that is just ridiculous.

 

[ASIS]

Those of you that are OK with the way LMP answered the question about the child molestation charges...........If tomorrow you are accused of child molestation and your spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend etc. is asked the same question (on national tv) LMP was asked, and if their response was the same........I don't know, I wasn't in the room. How would YOU feel about it? Would you still feel like that person really loved you and believed in you? Think about it.

I guarantee you that if Mrs. K. Jackson is asked the same question, she won't respond by saying ----I don't know, I wasn't in the room.

She said she doesn't believe it at all, she also said she didn't see anything wrong what so ever. She said she can't say exactly what happened (or better yet, what not happened) because she wasn't in the room. I don't see what's so bad about that. True, it was unnecessary but it's nothing to get upset about.

 

[Lucilla]

Those of you that are OK with the way LMP answered the question about the child molestation charges...........If tomorrow you are accused of child molestation and your spouse/girlfriend/boyfriend etc. is asked the same question (on national tv) LMP was asked, and if their response was the same........I don't know, I wasn't in the room. How would YOU feel about it? Would you still feel like that person really loved you and believed in you? Think about it.

I guarantee you that if Mrs. K. Jackson is asked the same question, she won't respond by saying ----I don't know, I wasn't in the room.

Amen :agree:

 

[Graf]

On a lighter note..Did anyone else like the part of the interview when she was talking about how he was like "He was like a little gnome" :lol:

 

[dupsy]

I don't think there is such thing as an "Immune Disease" is there? :scratch:

O yes, There are immune diseases.Any illness that affects the immune system;that is cells''white blood cells''/tissues/organs''spleen,lymph nodes etc'' that helps the body fight infection is termed immune disease/disorders.

immune disorders could be;1 congenital--- the person is born with it e.g Digeorge's disease
2;acquired----the person develops it after birth or later in life due to several factors e.g AIDS
3.Autoimmune;This occurs when the body produces substances that fight against itself,in short it's overactive immune response.could be congenital or acquired

Really,I dont want to go into details,this is just a brief overview.

 

[Staffordshire Bullterrier]

She said she doesn't believe it at all, she also said she didn't see anything wrong what so ever. She said she can't say exactly what happened (or better yet, what not happened) because she wasn't in the room. I don't see what's so bad about that. True, it was unnecessary but it's nothing to get upset about.

As his ex-wife who knew him very well, saying 'i wasn't in the room, etc...' is just weird, is all. It leaves room for doubt, it leaves room for the stupid ass media to jump atop of it. It leaves room for many ignorant mawfuckas out there to say 'see? Even his ex-wife wasn't 100% sure about his innocence' . See what i mean? I just don't get it really.

 

[Justice_MJ]

On a lighter note..Did anyone else like the part of the interview when she was talking about how he was like "He was like a little gnome" :lol:

Lol! She called him gnome.
I wonder what they did in the middle of the night, when she couldn't sleep because he couldn't sleep and they were both lying awake... Haha... :lol:

 

[JMie]

On a lighter note..Did anyone else like the part of the interview when she was talking about how he was like "He was like a little gnome" :lol:

oh yes. that was a cute moment, especially when she said she didn't mind him keeping her awake.

but I am kind of upset that Oprah didn't ask any follow-up questions about his insomnia. it could have been a chance to educate the audience.

 

[ASIS]

As his ex-wife who knew him very well, saying 'i wasn't in the room, etc...' is just weird, is all. It leaves room for doubt, it leaves room for the stupid ass media to jump atop of it. It leaves room for many ignorant mawfuckas out there to say 'see? Even his ex-wife wasn't 100% sure about his innocence' . See what i mean? I just don't get it really.

I get it completely. It was unnecessary at all since the media will easily twist that. But what I mean is, that comment was not enough to get upset at lisa since it clearly was not her intention to say as such. It was stupid i'll give you that.