I don't quite understand. Is it illegal somehow to sell flowers? It is become fashionable now to bash Mrs. Jackson for anything or everything she does?
Well, never mind.
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I don't quite understand. Is it illegal somehow to sell flowers? It is become fashionable now to bash Mrs. Jackson for anything or everything she does?
Well, never mind.
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Well, first of all I find it TACKY......but that is my personal opinion. And like many have stated here (and I fully agree), as long as MJ & his kids arent being exploited, there is absolutely nothing wrong with an 80-year old businesswoman launching a new product line.
Second of all, I wanted to clear up the misconception that she did THIS interview to speak up against Murray & the upcoming trial. She did not. She did the interview to plug her flowers.
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Oh, okay, now it makes sense.
I mean, she's gonna have to get out there and PLUG those flowers, otherwise NOBODY would know about them, aside from us.
START by talking about Michael and the Murray trial, then once we are good and SOFTEN-UP, you ask us to purchase flowers from you. LOL! Sounds EXACTLY like something Howard Mann would come up with.
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This comes as hypercritical, even hypocritical, given that her own children are writing books about Michael. Toy's looks to be just as sleazy as the rest given the description. Not to even mention Jermaine.
Also, her own kids called Murray the 'fall guy'. Jermaine straight up said Murray was just targeted because he is black. So, sorry Mrs. Jackson, this comes off as utter BS coming from you. Just like your outrage over the defense calling Michael an addict.
Also, her own kids called Murray the 'fall guy'. Jermaine straight up said Murray was just targeted because he is black. So, sorry Mrs. Jackson, this comes off as utter BS coming from you. Just like your outrage over the defense calling Michael an addict.
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Exactly... she supposedly was outraged the defense was insinuating that MJ was an addict, but her own children including Randy, Janet and Rebbie called him one and her 2 daughters said it on national television.
Why didn't she say something then?
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maybe she is using this interview to plug some flowers...but...I can still hear the pain in her voice over losing Michael....that video is just to much...beautiful Michael...he was so kind and sweet...the pain is to much for me sometimes....I cannot imagin how she feels..it was her child.
I agree.
Undoubtedly Katherine's hurting, I never questioned her pain, but she's always shown more outrage over not getting as much money as she desires than over Murray's actions. If I were a mother I'd be screaming from the top of my lungs, nonstop over what Murray did to my child, she on the other hand only screams from the top of her lungs when it comes to monetary issues and the Estate of Michael Jackson. I'm sorry but I will never be able to look at Katherine the same way I did pre 2009. I'm biased when it comes to Michael, and damage is already done, it's irreversable. My perception of Katherine Jackson has changed, and no matter what she says or does now it won't change.
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Are you the man in the mirror and do you want to heal the world? They maybe don't care about us, but it's no use to be dangerous. The world is already filled with hate and we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort.. Don't you agree?
Maybe it's just human nature to get angry and saying things you actually won't do.. but because of your angry.. you say it.. But let's don't make it more worse.
Hurting someone makes you no better person.
4 years is not enough. I haven't liked the things that have been happening lately. But I do believe that Michael's death broke her heart. That's her son and you usually think you would go before your children and not the other way around. I am not looking forward to the trial either. I don't know if I can watch any footage of it.
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I feel the same way
Jermaine said that bout murray?....wow mj's family sure have a way of showing they "care"Ashtanga
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This! People, if you don't agree with something then state it without insults or name calling. I don't understand why people have to be so negative all the time. Yes, we're all upset over the circumstances surrounding Michael's passing. But it doesn't mean we should call his own Mother horrible names and speculate over how she feels about everything. Michael loved his mother more than anyone, I think we should respect that and do the same.
She did both. She clearly spoke against Murray and made her feelings known.
Well, I don't think it is realistic to expect people to love somebody just because Michael loved them. But I do agree about respect. And I do believe that it is better be at least open-minded.
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It is very clear that Katherine is in pain due to Michael's death. I hope she finds outlets that help her exercise that pain, but selling belts, flowers, and giving interviews may not be the best way to deal with that pain. Maybe getting involved in action oriented endeavors to bring the truth about his death to the masses would be a better plan. I hope her children send her some of her flowers.
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Well, I do think it's realistic as fans of Michael to respect what he respected, or at least as you said, to keep an open mind. It just hurts me to see all this negativity towards Katherine.
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i vreally think ppl shouldnt label her at all cuz they aren't paying for anything Michael Jacksons Name is and at her age having to care for his children she deserves all she can get., and im pretty sure Michael Jackson would want her to be comfortable while taking on his responsibilities. so i wish folks would stop disrespecting her.
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xthunderx2;3363906 said:
We've been given good reason to be conflicted about Mrs. J, but I don't think there is a doubt for "most" that she loved her son and that his loss devastasted her. At the memorial where Paris is sitting next to her and leaning her head on her shoulder, Mrs. Jackson looked like she'd aged 10 years.
I believe she is what she appears to be, and that is a mother, who wants to take care of ALL her children, even though they are adults. How many mothers allow a woman with two sets of children from two of her sons to live with her for decades to help those sons meet their financial responsibilities, even if she has to use another son's resources to do so?
Perhaps her sense of obligation stems from ALL of her children at one time taking care of her. It was ALL her boys that signed with Motown in ’69 and afforded her the opportunity to begin to live a life of luxury. I don't doubt if some other Jackson sibling had MJ's enormous gifts and had become the superstar, and Michael hadn't, and MJ needed financial help, she would have finagled to help him.
The problem is the lengths she's gone to and the people she's aligned herself with to keep all the family in a lifestyle that they just need to accept is now beyond them, and they are not ENTITLED to, and cannot regain on the back of her dead son. Another problem with Mrs. Jackson is how utterly clueless she appears to be about certain things, including knowing what to say and not to say in the press, and the unfortunately negative impression she's formed with some extremely bad decisions and actions.
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Wow you must really dislike this woman, don't forget she is Michael's mother the woman he loved with all his heart. She is a mother grandmother please have some respect.
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Katherine apparently respects Howard Mann. Do you respect him as well?
Respect isn't automatically extended to others just because someone you care about feels a certain way about them, even when it comes to a parent.
However, I DO respect Michael's feelings for his family, and it is my love and respect for HIM that at least keeps me objective and open minded. I'd never call his mother a name. I know that would hurt MJ, and that just wouldn't be possible for me to do.
Certainly not.
If you look at my post, I was not replying to your posts. I actually agree with you. And respect does not mean that me or you or anybody else has to agree with Mrs. Jackson's decisions and support each one of them. My problem is mostly with name calling, questioning her pain of loosing her child and negative reaction to ANYTHING she does.
For example, her idea about flowers was immediately labeled as hypocrisy. Some fans somehow want to teach 80 years old women how to be a good Jehovah witness. Was Michael's disclaimer at the beginning of the Thriller short film a hypocrisy? I don't think so. Do I have to support her with her flower ideas? I don't think so. But I can see nothing wrong with that because infamous Mr. Mann is nowhere to be found so far and this project does not use any trademarks and materials that belong to the Estate. If Mrs. Jackson wants to earn some money, it is totally her business as long as there is not shady porn producer involved. And I cannot understand the position "she wants to send some flowers, therefore she don't feel any pain for losing her son". I think this kind of "criticism" is simply wrong and inhumane. This is not criticism. This is bashing.
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I did not see disrespect. The truth is not disrespect.
Well, we disagree on this one. Number one, I don't see truth or lie in this tread, just different opinions. Number two, saying that mother does not feel pain of loosing her child is highly disrespectful, in my opinion.
Let's agree to disagree.
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Jackson's mom hoping bouquets send message of love
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, AP Entertainment Writer Anthony Mccartney, Ap Entertainment Writer
Thu Apr 28, 12:38 pm ET
.CALABASAS, Calif. – Katherine Jackson isn't looking forward to the upcoming trial of the doctor charged in connection with her son's death. She says the pain of his loss nearly two years ago remains and the potential punishment for the physician doesn't seem like it's nearly enough.
The matriarch of one of music's most famous families isn't planning any special preparations for the daily trek to a downtown Los Angeles courtroom where the trial begins May 9, but she says she'll rely on her faith to carry her through.
"I have mixed emotions," she told The Associated Press in an interview this week. "Sometimes I think why have a trial if ... the maximum sentence is only four years."
She has not spoken to Dr. Conrad Murray, who has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter, although she has seen him often from her seat at pretrial hearings in the case.
"I'll be there, but it just hurts me because my son is gone and for forever and this man is trying to get away and get off," she said. "He needs to be punished."
Katherine Jackson spoke at her new hilltop house in Calabasas, a community 10 miles west of the Jackson's longtime San Fernando Valley home, which is being renovated. White roses have been planted to be seen when looking out the back windows into the valley below, and flower beds line the walkways and the outside of the house — one of the requests Jackson said she made for the property when she arrived.
Flowers have always been a source of joy for the soft-spoken woman in her 80s, prompting smiles and excited descriptions of her favorite plants and blooms.
She recently extended her floral passion beyond her own garden, consulting on and endorsing a line of floral arrangements being sold online. Jackson said she hopes the venture will help others show their love for one another.
"I think flowers speak a thousand words," she said with a smile.
The retailer, sendherflowers.com, is hoping the $49-and-up arrangements with names such as "Precious," "Field of Love" and "Dynasty" will be a hit for Mother's Day. And Jackson hopes people will use them for any occasion, with plans to change the arrangements through the seasons.
As a devout Jehovah's Witness, Katherine Jackson does not celebrate Mother's Day or many of the holidays that prompt people to buy flowers. But her famous children still send Mom bouquets with some of her favorite blooms, including tulips and azaleas.
"They know I don't celebrate all the holidays, but they send them anyway," she said.
Her son Michael would send her flowers at least once a month, she said, including a large arrangement after his acquittal on child molestation charges in 2005.
In the days after his death, flowers poured into the family's home and Katherine Jackson says they carried with them a message she immediately understood and appreciated — she was not alone.
"They felt my pain," she said of the outpouring from fans and supporters. "It meant a lot to me. And at that time, I needed all of that to know the world was with me, the world felt my pain."
Her son's death at age 50 has thrust Katherine Jackson back into the role of mother. She is the guardian and caretaker of the singer's three children, who range in ages from 9 to 14.
Raising children in the Internet age poses a whole new set of challenges, she said, but her strategy hasn't changed. She said she still believes you have to show children respect, keep promises, and give them spiritual grounding. "Raise them with a conscience," she said.
Discipline is key, but she adheres to a simple philosophy — "Discipline with love." It was a lesson she said her son Michael apparently heeded.
After the singer's death, Katherine Jackson went to his home to clean up. There, she found several reminders he had scribbled to himself.
"He had notes around," she recalled. "'Discipline with love.'"
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY, AP Entertainment Writer Anthony Mccartney, Ap Entertainment Writer
Thu Apr 28, 12:38 pm ET
.CALABASAS, Calif. – Katherine Jackson isn't looking forward to the upcoming trial of the doctor charged in connection with her son's death. She says the pain of his loss nearly two years ago remains and the potential punishment for the physician doesn't seem like it's nearly enough.
The matriarch of one of music's most famous families isn't planning any special preparations for the daily trek to a downtown Los Angeles courtroom where the trial begins May 9, but she says she'll rely on her faith to carry her through.
"I have mixed emotions," she told The Associated Press in an interview this week. "Sometimes I think why have a trial if ... the maximum sentence is only four years."
She has not spoken to Dr. Conrad Murray, who has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter, although she has seen him often from her seat at pretrial hearings in the case.
"I'll be there, but it just hurts me because my son is gone and for forever and this man is trying to get away and get off," she said. "He needs to be punished."
Katherine Jackson spoke at her new hilltop house in Calabasas, a community 10 miles west of the Jackson's longtime San Fernando Valley home, which is being renovated. White roses have been planted to be seen when looking out the back windows into the valley below, and flower beds line the walkways and the outside of the house — one of the requests Jackson said she made for the property when she arrived.
Flowers have always been a source of joy for the soft-spoken woman in her 80s, prompting smiles and excited descriptions of her favorite plants and blooms.
She recently extended her floral passion beyond her own garden, consulting on and endorsing a line of floral arrangements being sold online. Jackson said she hopes the venture will help others show their love for one another.
"I think flowers speak a thousand words," she said with a smile.
The retailer, sendherflowers.com, is hoping the $49-and-up arrangements with names such as "Precious," "Field of Love" and "Dynasty" will be a hit for Mother's Day. And Jackson hopes people will use them for any occasion, with plans to change the arrangements through the seasons.
As a devout Jehovah's Witness, Katherine Jackson does not celebrate Mother's Day or many of the holidays that prompt people to buy flowers. But her famous children still send Mom bouquets with some of her favorite blooms, including tulips and azaleas.
"They know I don't celebrate all the holidays, but they send them anyway," she said.
Her son Michael would send her flowers at least once a month, she said, including a large arrangement after his acquittal on child molestation charges in 2005.
In the days after his death, flowers poured into the family's home and Katherine Jackson says they carried with them a message she immediately understood and appreciated — she was not alone.
"They felt my pain," she said of the outpouring from fans and supporters. "It meant a lot to me. And at that time, I needed all of that to know the world was with me, the world felt my pain."
Her son's death at age 50 has thrust Katherine Jackson back into the role of mother. She is the guardian and caretaker of the singer's three children, who range in ages from 9 to 14.
Raising children in the Internet age poses a whole new set of challenges, she said, but her strategy hasn't changed. She said she still believes you have to show children respect, keep promises, and give them spiritual grounding. "Raise them with a conscience," she said.
Discipline is key, but she adheres to a simple philosophy — "Discipline with love." It was a lesson she said her son Michael apparently heeded.
After the singer's death, Katherine Jackson went to his home to clean up. There, she found several reminders he had scribbled to himself.
"He had notes around," she recalled. "'Discipline with love.'"
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Well, Mrs. Jackson, we need to know the truth, regardless.
And what is with:" Smooth Criminal singer's fans"...is it hard to type just Michael Jackson's fans. HIS NAME IS MICHAEL JACKSON, not thriller, not smooth criminal not bad, or invincible.
US press, is not that good, but UK sucks big time when comes to Michael. I guess it hurts them, that his legacy is still going strong, because, I have no other explanation for their nincompoop articles...
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Michael is giving her everything she needs to live comfortable while taking care of his kids. She really doesn't need to run around worrying how to make money.
I do feel her pain because she is a mother who lost her child, but with her actions she has made it difficult for people to sympathize with her. And that's kind of sad.
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she is right its hard and not enough...