Jermaine Writing Book On Life With MJ *Book To Be Released Sept 13*

I would suggest that you read it for yourself. Just ignore the typical negative "anything Jackson-made should be rejected" mentality. If you automatically have opposition against the book and it's author based solely on the opinions of others and the majority viewpoint, you won't find out FOR YOURSELF, whether or not the book will be to your liking.

Of course that is the only way any of us would know if the book was to our liking, but when it comes to Michael I generally will always read the reviews before purchasing, so I am interested to read Ivy's overall impression. It's a question of balance, I'm very wary of Jermaine but not everything is black and white and there could be some touching insightful moments (ok up to Victory LOL) that would be nice to read.
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I admit the book has had some good reviews. I'll guess I'll try and read it online and buy it if it's good.
 
BTW, I always wanted to ask where all those 30 or 40 millions dollars went (those MJ used ATV to loan)? to keep his share of SONY/ATV or other business? and the summary mentioned that MJ lost 100M due to not touring for Invincible. How come he lost money not touring? Is this MJ's obiligation to tour? If he didn't he would lost money? or Jermaine just said that MJ could have get 100M if he did a tour? I am always curious about where all those money spent? Yes, MJ lived expensive lives but that kind of amount sounds way too much. Was those money use for business?
 
jermaine says the money was in a bank account. and I think he said in the last chapter Michael was to go to his office? but I have to check, I don't have my kindle with me sorry.

At this point, I don't think Jermaine knows much of ANYTHING. The 5.5 million was CASH. In Tohme's house. He said it was his and Michael's "secret."

Here is the reference, on ABC news, and Tohme may have made a video statement where that was mentioned, too. (I don't have the link at-hand, though.)

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/MichaelJackson/story?id=8172668&page=1

(quote from the article. Article is dated July 25, 2009.)

"Administrators of Jackson's estate said in court papers filed Friday that they recovered $5.5 million in cash from "one of Michael Jackson's former financial advisers" and also recovered "substantial amounts of tangible personal property," not necessarily from the same person."
 
BTW, I always wanted to ask where all those 30 or 40 millions dollars went (those MJ used ATV to loan)? to keep his share of SONY/ATV or other business? and the summary mentioned that MJ lost 100M due to not touring for Invincible. How come he lost money not touring? Is this MJ's obiligation to tour? If he didn't he would lost money? or Jermaine just said that MJ could have get 100M if he did a tour? I am always curious about where all those money spent? Yes, MJ lived expensive lives but that kind of amount sounds way too much. Was those money use for business?
Here is an article about Michael's debt that may help answer some of your questions.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Michael-Jackson---Money,-Myth-and-the-Mainstream-Media&id=2779807
 
There is something i just don't get. His family always say that security kept them away. It doesn't seem very nice. I am not sure if Michael told them that or these people decided this. What bothers me is that other people were able to talk to Michael but his family could never see him. They really don't seem to know anything unless people tell them.
 
ivy;3484044 said:
Sony: Relationships are getting worse and Michael would seek "divorce from Mottola". Michael finds out his masters aren't reverting to him until 2009/2010 (he thought 2000) and the lawyer who advised him also advised Sony.Michael wants to get out of his contract early.

Karen Faye has said over and over that Michael was very upset with SONY because he thought he would get his masters back in 2000/2001 but they duped him. These are Karens exact words.

So Jermaine def got that story from Karen as well....


ivy;3484305 said:
Michael trusted a less people. There was one person he thought as a friend and advised him unofficially since 2001. Michael was often a guest at his house. One sleepless night during his war with Mottola , Michael overhears this person on the telephone with Mottola saying not favorable things.

Im thinking Al Malnik.. Karen Faye has said on her twitter/facebook that she and Michael were at Malniks house in Miami when Al Malnik recieved a call from Mottola... According to Karen, Michale got suspicious

ivy;3484305 said:
Still worried if the tickets would not sell, tested the waters with 10 in Europe. Wasn't sure about USA reaction to him.



"The only thing he complained about was that he’d signed up to do “10 shows only” as advertised but somewhere along the line, due to the demand tickets, AEG had added an extra 40 dates. Even they sold out within five hours on-line. Michael said no one had checked with him first, but at no point did he give me the impression that the schedule was too punishing or beyond him, because it wasn’t. Not for a man in his condition."

Doesnt add. First he is worried about tickets being sold, tested the waters and US reactionand then later on to say he didnt sign up for only 10 dates. Doest test the waters mean you are trying to see how much is sold and then you release more shows??
 
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Jermaine says Michael was supposed to meet Tohme on June 24 to put the down payment on the Vegas house. Tohme had the money. Jermaine says the rehearsals run long and doesn't know if Michael met Tohme on 24th or not. And assumes that Tohme might be around on the 25th - and came to the hospital - as he was trying to meet Michael about the house.

It's mentioned in the last chapter.

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Oh God.... :doh: :no:






And actually let me tell you something interesting

Jermaine describes Tohme as someone definitely not graduated from charm school. He says that he wasn't a "bad" person per se but his behavior is rude, to your face, says it as he sees it etc. He actually thinks that this would be good for Michael as when he's looking to financials he will tell Michael as it is and would not try to act nice etc. And by everything we know about Tohme fits to this description.

Later when Jermaine goes to Michael's house and Tohme doesn't let him saying "he doesn't want to see you, why are you coming back and embarrass yourself", Jermaine doesn't believe Tohme. and I wonder why not? That seems to be the honest, blunt, to your face behavior Tohme is known for.

And Jerma not speak clearly about the Tohme. :doh: I really do not understand why Jerma presented Tohme to Michael if he knew how Tohme was.... :no: We still do not know anything clearly about Tohme. :perrin: *big sigh*








Joe Vogel talking about Jermaine's book:

JoeVogel1 Joe Vogel
@Reetaxxx I enjoyed it.
It's his perspective, so obviously I don't see everything the same, but it's a great read IMO
22 hours ago






He also recommend it....


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And Jerma not speak clearly about the Tohme. :doh: I really do not understand why Jerma presented Tohme to Michael if he knew how Tohme was.... :no: We still do not know anything clearly about Tohme. :perrin: *big sigh*[/COLOR]




I guess that's why he wrote Halima told him " you don't even know this man!" Ha...
Thome is such a mystery man. Hope one day we can really find out what the hell is going on.
 
Was the video that MJ told fans "he only agreed to ten shows but, woke up to 50" taken down because someone received threats? If so how come? If it isn't true to a certain extent, why the worry over it and the hush then? That video should be still available to all to see, and it is wrong that it's not.
 
This whole thing with tohme is so fraustrating to think bout . I still cant get my head round why he was around mj
 
Was the video that MJ told fans "he only agreed to ten shows but, woke up to 50" taken down because someone received threats? If so how come? If it isn't true to a certain extent, why the worry over it and the hush then? That video should be still available to all to see, and it is wrong that it's not.

There's no way to know. It was up for less than 24 hours, I think. Nobody I know thought to download it (and I didn't, either). I really don't know what the situation was? That Michael was upset because he wasn't consulted about the extension of shows, or what? Or he really didn't KNOW there would be that many shows? The potential extension of shows was in the contract, so. . dunno. Unless someone signed FOR him, with POA? No way to know. I remember that he put his hands over his face at one point, and appeared to be crying. The video wasn't very good quality, and most likely was taken by someone's cell-phone. And then poof! it was gone, and that was that. . .
 
Karen Faye:
TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter
I passed judgement to hastily on things before I completely understood situations from all sides. I do not wish to repeat mistakes. RT @marcoballetta: @wingheart Sure u are not going to answer, but for sure many would like to know: why and for what reason u have not been so kind to him ?
TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter
WOW. I have not read his book yet. That is really sweet of him. Especially when I haven't always been that kind to him. A lesson to be learned. RT @angelayim: @wingheart Hi,sweet Karen.Jermaine mentioned you in his book.A fan wrote the summary about his new book.
TwitLonger — When you talk too much for Twitter
I have used that analogy since June 2009. RT @MJsYanaGirl: @wingheart "like watching a bird with a broken wing, being thrown off a cliff, & hoping it would fly" Those were Jermaine's exact words.
 
There's no way to know. It was up for less than 24 hours, I think. Nobody I know thought to download it (and I didn't, either). I really don't know what the situation was? That Michael was upset because he wasn't consulted about the extension of shows, or what? Or he really didn't KNOW there would be that many shows? The potential extension of shows was in the contract, so. . dunno. Unless someone signed FOR him, with POA? No way to know. I remember that he put his hands over his face at one point, and appeared to be crying. The video wasn't very good quality, and most likely was taken by someone's cell-phone. And then poof! it was gone, and that was that. . .
=( Thanks for answering my question! I wish I had saw the video myself but, I didn't have internet at that time. But, since I do now I Have downloaded many MJ vids and I know for sure if I would have saw that I would have jump on it quick.

I wonder who put the video up in the first place? Had to be a follower fan? Obvious...because of how u describe what u heard and saw in the vid. I wish they would put it back up for all to see. Especially, when there so adamant about what they saw and heard, right? Make sense! I just can't help but, to think they were threaten to take it down? Oh well, I hope one day I and others can see it? Usually any new MJ vids go around quickly and many make copies, it's unbelievable and sad that this was the only vid/copy of the orginal....?
 
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Chapter 22 - Gone too soon

June 25 Halima receives a call from Larry King asking them if they know anything about Michael's condition. Jermaine calls Katherine as he hears she's leaving the house for hospital, Halima and Jermaine drives to the hospital as well. Joel Katz calls Jermaine on the way and says that it's bad. Janet calls Jermaine panicked. Katherine calls Jermaine and says that Michael is dead. Jermaine arrives to the hospital, finds Katherine alone in a room. sees Latoya and Randy. Randy is saying "someone did this". Jermaine goes to see Michael's body. Can't believe how skeletal he was, like half the size he was a month ago. He caresses Michael's hand, kisses his forehead. MJ's kids come with a nurse and Jermaine says what they said and did should remain private between them and their father.

Jermaine sees Randy Phillips, Dileo and Tohme. Someone walks up to Jermaine and wants him to read the statement. Attorneys and medical staff feels it's appropriate if the statement comes from family. Reads the statement. Goes back to where Katherine was. Murray comes in and offers his condolences.

Jermaine later learns that Murray has been in Michael's life long before TII.

"He was apparently first called out in Vegas to treat Paris for something, and Michael retained him soon afterward. At Michael’s request, he was hired by AEG for the tour. I don’t know what, if any, checks they did in regard to his suitability, but by having him on their payroll, they were, in my opinion, responsible for his duty of care to their artist. Not to mention the doctor’s own responsibilities under the Hippocratic Oath."

Carolwood Katherine, Janet and Latoya goes. "In fact, La Toya’s boyfriend Jeffre Phillips stayed at the house overnight by himself for two weeks, presumably as a presence to guard against vultures."

"The autopsy report ruled that Michael had had a healthy heart and had died from “acute Propofol intoxication” with no other factor related to the immediate cause of death. The media would go on to falsely portray him as a “junkie,” trying to make the link with prescription pill usage but that, and drugs like Demerol, was not the reason why his heart stopped. What was clear is that the anesthetic Propofol was everywhere in his system. I didn’t even know what “Propofol” was but I’ve since learned that it is not a recreational drug and it was no prescription medicine. Propofol is what people are given intravenously as an anesthetic before major surgery, or doctors use it for sedation. This, I would find out, is what Michael relied on to be knocked out when desperate for sleep, but it should be given only by a trained anesthesiologist and its intake should be carefully monitored with the appropriate medical equipment in place. Michael was usually beset by sleeping problems only on tour so it was, to the best of my knowledge, a departure for him to be using this kind of sleep-inducer during rehearsals. It’s also worth noting that the last time Michael would have needed something like Propofol would have been his last tour, “HIStory,” in 1996. It didn’t surprise me that his insomnia was returning in the run-up to his London dates because of the unimaginable pressure, most of it self-imposed. He was his own biggest competition in the relentless drive to be perfect within the great comeback he’d envisioned."

The below is what Jermaine discovered:
-Michael went from 150-155 to 136 lbs.
- TII is a clever edit.
- start of june michael focused and business like. He wasn't "on fire" but he always held back so this was normal.
- tour opening pushing had nothing to do with health. Michael wanted to rehearse at O2 and not at wembley.
- insomnia starting
- michael told people that he would have a word and change / arrange the workload.
- some people working on TII were chosen over the people Michael worked with / wanted to work with and Michael wasn't happy with it but he said he will make changes when we went to UK.
- Michael's strategy was to do 10 concerts and renegotiate the 40 concerts using the media and public interest. Jermaine says this is the reason why Michael seemed laid back , little input to discussing the concerts. He was waiting for the right time to take over the control.
- Michael not happy with AEG bringing in Dileo and Branca. Jermaine assumes AEG needed handling of Michael and they brought it people that knew Michael.
- Dileo after he comes , keeps people informed on a need to know basis. Protective on Frank's mind but other people around are unease as they think Michael is under control of someone.
- Mid June Michael's health detoriating. He's missing rehearsals or coming in late. His security increased from 2 people to 10 people.
- June 17 he's like a ghost.
- He's making mistakes in dance routines. repeating sentences or words like he has OCD. struggles to finish songs, need teleprompter for lyrics. need help up and down the ramps/stairs.
- inner circle gets worried. "In fairness to AEG, maybe its people didn’t observe the same signs as those with a closer proximity? But, even if that was the case, people would still sound the alarm bells to those in authority to actually do something to help."
- Paris : Daddy was always cold. Karen Faye realized this as well. Michael made a phonecall to a nurse about one half of his body being cold and other half being hot.
- patience running out with michael's absense and being late. Jermaine thinks AEG thought it was due to drug dependency.
- Michael being treated badly, belittling.
- thinner he becomes he colder he gets. 3 layers of clothing while others are baking. june 19 michael was like block of ice to the touch.
- someone calls one of Michael's old doctors and tells the symptoms "“toxic poisoning of the brain” and take him to hospital. AEG doesn't know this call, still Michael chose not to go to hospital.
- murray isn't giving any sense of emergency. after michael sent home on june 19, murray sends a fax to AEG saying that Michael needs 2 days of rest.
- michael acting brave and do not want anyone to think something is wrong.
- closest to Michael : Karen , Bush and Thompson frantic with worry asking for a person with authority to intervene.
- final week. Michael is being taken out of rehearsal space with his arms around bodyguards shoulders - like he collapsed or weak to stand.
- no one called Jacksons. and Jermaine says the responsibility for it was at AEG.
- Jermaine says although the investigation focused on the events on June 25, something was wrong long before.
- Ortega seemed to be the only one that cared. sending him to rest, feeding him, rubbing his feet.
- June 18 , 20 meetings. Riot act. AEG should have cancelled the concerts but they didn't. Michael if didn't do the concerts would lose his catalog.
- Follower fans emailing Karen.
- Michael Bearden asking the staff to pray for Michael
- Last 2 days everthing changes. Michael is upbeat and sharp. other than weight loss, there was no sign of anything being wrong in those 2 days.
- Michael was scheduled to work on his vocals the following days.
- Leaves around 12:30, was supposed to make a diversion and visit Tohme to sign the papers for the new Las Vegas home. Jermaine doesn't know if Michael made a stop at Tohme's or went straight home.
- Murray , trying to sleep. Murray on the phone. Murray's girlfriend hearing a commotion. Security footage is only limited to 4 minutes, rest is erased. why?
- Hope the justice doesn't fail Michael.

Epilogue - Smile

Memorial. Ambitious plans such as Washington Monument. Katherine wanting something private. they find the middle ground. private JW viewing before the public memorial. AEG offer Staples Center. They accept without knowing what went on at rehearsals. Family plan it at Theather at Hayvenhurst. One moment they hug each other, Joe says stop you're going to make me cry. Jermaine wants Michael to be burried at Neverland in a area close to train station. Katherine rejects it as Michael said he never wanted to go back there. Jermaine still thinks Neverland is where Michael should be. Kingdom Hall private service ended with Paris's request of listening to Michael sing "Gone to soon". Staples center. How the brothers were pallbearers. Before TII concerts Michael had planned to take his children to Switzerland to visit Chaplin house. Jacksons decided that none of them would perform but Jermaine wants to sing "Smile", Katherine says do it. Jermaine is good at rehearsal, had a hard time during performance. Private burial. Katherine needed to feel close to Michael her own way so she went back to Gary to the old house and stayed there for a month. As people started to stop by Gary house they got it fixed and painted. January 2011 Jermaine and Halima goes to Senegal. Non English speaking village. they know Michael. Jermaine starts writing the book 2 weeks after that so that the world can understand who Michael is, his legacy and his life.

The End

*I'll write my personal review tomorrow*
 
So, the entire last chapter is full of TINI crap and Karen and Brush's statements. Well considering the summary, this isn't surprising. Funny how Jermaine covers his butt in his support of TII by saying it was all clever editing.

I still wonder how he explain how Michael never once appear ill in any of the TII footage that Murray's team tore through to see Michael being ill and cold. He missed words to songs and seemed OCD, but somehow not one piece of this was recording, what are the chances? He also put in the riot act, which the family dropped from the AEG lawsuit because they couldn't produce evident to the courts. I also don't see why AEG needed to call the family of a 50 years old man. Also, really smooth Jermaine using Paris' quotes from Toya interviews.

Btw, how the heck does Jermaine even know when Michael's sleeping problems started? Oh, and now AEG brought in Frank and Branca, why? What was the point in bring in Branca and if Michael didn't like it, why the heck did he rehired both of them?

To be frank, this account makes Michael look like an idiot, not AEG. He was getting weaker, sicker, and colder but kept going because of money. Which makes little sense since how does a sick Michael Jackson look for their investment. It also doesn't explain why Michael went over-budget in his production trying to make things perfect if he could barely stand. It also doesn't make any sense how Michael magically got better on the 23 and 24th. The final conclusion I can only make about Michael going by Jermaine that he was too depended to get help himself.
 
Thanks Ivy... I didn't want to buy and read this book but at the same was curious what Jermaine had to say... Thanks for letting all of us know with your summaries.


The way I see it the book is full of hearsay and doesn't reveal anything we didn't know except for Jermaine's vitiligo (which makes his Word to the badd performance look even worse) and that Word to the badd wasn't written by him and "he only performed" (which doesn't make his blame any less). Anything else that he wrote seemed taken from other people's accounts. And the way he writes seems like he's trying to please everyone - and as a result he often contradicts himself.

My biggest issue with this book is that he released it right before the trial. I am not buying the excuse that he couldn't postpone the release.
 
JMie;3484882 said:
Thanks Ivy... I didn't want to buy and read this book but at the same was curious what Jermaine had to say... Thanks for letting all of us know with your summaries.


The way I see it the book is full of hearsay and doesn't reveal anything we didn't know except for Jermaine's vitiligo (which makes his Word to the badd performance look even worse) and that Word to the badd wasn't written by him and "he only performed" (which doesn't make his blame any less). Anything else that he wrote seemed taken from other people's accounts. And the way he writes seems like he's trying to please everyone - and as a result he often contradicts himself.

My biggest issue with this book is that he released it right before the trial. I am not buying the excuse that he couldn't postpone the release.

Songwriters: REID, ANTONIO / SIMMONS, DARYL / EDMONDS, KENNETH M. (A/K/A BABYFACE) / LOPES, LISA / JACKSON, JERMAINE

And the irony?

Word To The Badd!! lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc., EMI Music Publishing, Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
 
Thanks Memefan! That's what I thought! Hahaha Jermaine at his best "I'm innocent, everyone else is to blame but me"
 
That would make it the 1st out of two songs that were dedicated diss songs to MJ that he ended up owning. The second being Eminem's shit song "Just loose it" and he did along with the rest of his songs when MJ bought another cataolg that had all of Ems songs in it! lmao
 
Regarding Jermaine's account of MJ's last days and what he's been saying in his media blitz, at the end of one of his tv appearances in the UK , the host said at the end, we need to say that the concert promotor says MJ wasn't put under pressure. Clearly AEG are monitoring what JJ is saying and they're not taking it lying down. I'm sure the jacksons would be hoping for a quick pre-trial settlement with aeg, there's no way they have the funds to fight a full-blown trial with a massive concert promotor.


For uk users,if interested, tv interview is Thursday's loose women on www.itv.com/itvplayer/video/?Filter=273153, last segment
 
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There are no excuses Jermaine could make that makes Word to the Badd ok, but I'm pleased he has admitted that he did it out of anger.

I don't believe that AEG hired Dileo or Branca against Michael's wishes, pretty stupid to do that as didn't Frank go on to renegotiate?

As far as TII goes, clearly Jermaine is going on hearsay and selectively believing the parts he choses to believe. But yeah IMO Michael was awfully thin and not a great starting weight to do 50 shows, and thats even more reason why Murray should have taken better care. And yeah, all that c*ap Murray was putting into him was bound to have some effect on his performances.


We don't know the truth but common sense would tell me that it was Michael that kept the family at arms length, this went on over many, many years, and over those years his inner circle changed. But it's probably easier for the family to blame others than to face the truth, and lets be honest obviously Michael didn't want to tell them directly, and maybe he made excuses and blammed others as well.
 
We don't know the truth but common sense would tell me that it was Michael that kept the family at arms length, this went on over many, many years, and over those years his inner circle changed. But it's probably easier for the family to blame others than to face the truth, and lets be honest obviously Michael didn't want to tell them directly, and maybe he made excuses and blammed others as well.

This was clearly the case, as MJ was famously non-confrontational. I'm sure the family knows this,but they are just keeping their public image intact.
 
Thanks, Ivy. I'll read this in more detail later, but some things stand out. Such as:

"At Michael’s request, he (Murray) was hired by AEG for the tour. I don’t know what, if any, checks they did in regard to his suitability, but by having him on their payroll, they were, in my opinion, responsible for his duty of care to their artist. Not to mention the doctor’s own responsibilities under the Hippocratic Oath."

(And, the text that follows.) That seems like a direct set-up for the lawsuit against AEG. I.e., it was AEG who hired Murray and they failed to check his credentials, etc. Problem is, that lawsuit and line-of-thinking could, possibly, work in Murray's FAVOR at the trial.

I have to agree about the "rapid edits" in TII, but not going to go into that here, as well. . . not going to discuss here "AEG brought in DiLeo and Branca." (to "control" Michael.). (Does Jerm KNOW "who" brought them in?) The Bearden quote is, as we now know, FALSE. I had some consternation while watching AEG, that Ortega was not as respectful to Michael as he could have been ("fist in my ear" incident, and other things). Also not gonna discuss here, either.

Jerm is not citing SOURCES
, and that makes it very hard to determine any accuracy about these crucial events. So where is that coming from? Karen Faye, most likely?

Will read more thoroughly when I have time, and THANKS, Ivy.
 
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