Jermaine Writing Book On Life With MJ *Book To Be Released Sept 13*

So what if Branca was hired 8 days b4 his death?!? From what it looks to me Michael just wanted to get his old team back on track, the ones he had successfully worked with in the past. Even if Branca was hired on June 24, it wouldn't mean ish unless you believe in conspiracy and that it wasn't solely Murray's stupidity, arrogance, incompetence, that killed Michael on June 25. Unless you believe there was a big 'Murder Michael' plot going on, the date when he was rehired, doesn't mean sht. And if u really believe in conspiracy let me say that everything indicates that it is Murray's sole responsibility. and guess what Michael did not die at the hands of |Branca regardless of what the Jerkson's are trying to sell you. There is - relatively - alot of information out there, regarding the investigation and Legrande's testimony, but it seems as if many of u would rather like to go with half truths and fiction because, it's more convenient than look for information.
 
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On Piers Morgan tonight:
He was talking about the family knew he was on prescription drugs, but never heard about anesthesiologists; that he had one around all the time he wanted to sleep.

-talking about Michael complained of being hot and cold, couldnt get himself out of bed
-talking about all the people around Michael only cared about the tour
-Michael was frail when he died and wasnt the brother he knew
-complaining about no one called the family when Michael had problems

Basically talking about the same old tired story

Okay Jerm pretty much contradicted himself these last several days...
 
yes it did



some requirements made it revert later

This is the part I didn't get it. How come the requirements suddenly appeared in 2000? or if the requirements are always there, how come MJ didn't know that and keep thinking that he would get the masters back in 2000? Are those details supposed to all be included in the contracts he signed long ago?? How's that even possible that SONY can just randomly said in 2000 "MJ you need to do this and this to get your master back????" It does not make any sense to me. Either MJ didn't fully understand the contract when he signed or some lawyer didn't do his job or even tricked him to sign the contract. I just can't see any reason how this could happened like what Jermaine said here.
 
Jermaine just told Piers Morgan that Martin Bashir needs to be slapped. I totally agree with him on that.
 
Um...even Branca pointed out the exact time he was rehired by MJ in a recent article! Is he to accusing himself? lol I just wanted to be clear as to when he was rehired! AND?

Plus, MJ didn't mind Branca being investigated or else he would have stopped it! Knowing Branca for all those yrs and suddenly stop trusting him....makes me wonder. Their relationship obvious wasn't the same! But, If MJ found out what he wanted to know from the investigation? Then good for him! That was the point in the investigation in the first place, ain't gonna say he was wrong for it. He wasn't stupid, it was his choice and he had his reasons, point blank! As for Sony I back MJ 100% for going against them, period!
 
Jermaine says after the show in NY members of the family went to his home with a doctor because they felt Michael was on drugs. Why did they think that? Was it that they were nagging him about a tour again and he did not want to see them. The Michael's doctor told them he was OK, and Jermaine is made at the media going with the non-intervention story. How did the media get that story Jermaine?

Jermaine knows everything Michael thinks, feels and the reason for Michael's actions, which is scary to me. Jermaine knows why Michael married Lisa, about their relationship, why he had surgery, what Michael thought about the Sony issue, that Blanket's mother is anonymous, while at the same time saying none of the family knows who she is. For a guy who claims that people kept Michael away from them, he sure knows a lot about Michael's affairs.
 
What I am not understanding is if, Jermaine believes that his brother was not an addict then why is he pushing the issue about him and the family thought he was hooked on prescribed meds/drugs? it sounds like he believes it, but Mike would not have taken his own life I believe that he would not do that to his children.
 
What I am not understanding is if, Jermaine believes that his brother was not an addict then why is he pushing the issue about him and the family thought he was hooked on prescribed meds/drugs? it sounds like he believes it, but Mike would not have taken his own life I believe that he would not do that to his children.

I don't understand that either.
 
He says he wasn't an addict and yet he says they knew he was on prescription meds. Not for recreation or to get high but for pain and to sleep. It's like he is playing both sides. I find his book depressing. Even his interview just now with Piers. Maybe I just want to hear happy things about Michael and not all these things that feel like are coming from different books put into one.
 
On Piers Morgan tonight:


Okay Jerm pretty much contradicted himself these last several days...

Jermaine's an idiot. He obviously think people can't go on youtube and look at his past statements. In which he never said until now that Michael was frail or weak. He in fact supported TII and talked about how glowing Micheel was and he wasn't given his best. So, he suddenly turned into Superman when the camera were rolling? Not to mention that LKL interview he gave a couple days after Michael died when Larry showed him a clip from Michael rehearsal from the 23. He said Michael looked fine and he was always skinny. Now, he was frail. Did he forget to read the rest of the autopsy which he cited in his own book that said Michael was healthy or a decent weight? What, did the family promise him a cut of the AEG pie if he shut up and changed his story?

But, what can you expect from Jacksonland. I really need to just give up with thinking this family will say anything sane. 'sigh'
 
He was talking about the family knew he was on prescription drugs, but never heard about anesthesiologists; that he had one around all the time he wanted to sleep.

I think I posted the exact quote in which Jermaine says that Michael toured with an anesthologist. They might not know of Murray before. But an anesthologist during touring isn't a foreign information - at least that's what Jermaine makes it sound like.

Jermaine says after the show in NY members of the family went to his home with a doctor because they felt Michael was on drugs. Why did they think that? Was it that they were nagging him about a tour again and he did not want to see them.

Jermaine says he didn't realize anything but when the family members mentioned it made sense. and yes they base it on Michael staying at another place and now having much contact with them. Because according Jermaine michael couldn't hide it from the family who aren't yes-man or loving fans.

The Michael's doctor told them he was OK, and Jermaine is made at the media going with the non-intervention story. How did the media get that story Jermaine?

Janet, Latoya


What I am not understanding is if, Jermaine believes that his brother was not an addict then why is he pushing the issue about him and the family thought he was hooked on prescribed meds/drugs? it sounds like he believes it, but Mike would not have taken his own life I believe that he would not do that to his children.

He says he wasn't an addict and yet he says they knew he was on prescription meds. Not for recreation or to get high but for pain and to sleep. It's like he is playing both sides. I find his book depressing. Even his interview just now with Piers. Maybe I just want to hear happy things about Michael and not all these things that feel like are coming from different books put into one.

His logic: Addict is a person who uses drugs for recreational reasons. Michael didn't use it for fun or get high. He had a reason. Demerol : burn and the bridge fall. (Propofol : rest after the concerts.) He forms dependency to Demerol at times and denies it (saying he's okay to them when they show up at Neverland but then admitting to being under the effect of medication at depositions). And he also says that his previous drug dependency isn't the reason that he died.
 
That part of jermaine saying lmp said that mj had the kids for relatiton & not for love is crazy! Michael wanted children to love & share his life with. Lisa saying that is just pure stupidity imo
 
His logic: Addict is a person who uses drugs for recreational reasons. Michael didn't use it for fun or get high. He had a reason. Demerol : burn and the bridge fall. (Propofol : rest after the concerts.) He forms dependency to Demerol at times and denies it (saying he's okay to them when they show up at Neverland but then admitting to being under the effect of medication at depositions). And he also says that his previous drug dependency isn't the reason that he died.


So was he assuming that mike was using it to get high? because if he had reasons to use prescriptions then why did they feel that he was an addict or had an addiction, if it is for medical purposes?


Jermaine has pushed the topic since after mike's death that he was not a drug addict, now he is claiming that he believed? do they think that their brother and son liked to get high for fun/recklessly? Something is not making sense on the families behalf, too much talking before the trial, and they don't even know what they are talking about apparently.
 
So was he assuming that mike was using it to get high? because if he had reasons to use prescriptions then why did they feel that he was an addict or had an addiction, if it is for medical purposes?


Jermaine has pushed the topic since after mike's death that he was not a drug addict, now he is claiming that he believed? do they think that their brother and son liked to get high for fun/recklessly? Something is not making sense on the families behalf, too much talking before the trial, and they don't even know what they are talking about apparently.

no he doesn't think that he was using it to get high. that's why I wrote " Michael didn't use it for fun or get high" so according to Jermaine he's not an addict but sometimes had dependency issues (at least to Demerol) due to the pain he was experiencing.
 
no he doesn't think that he was using it to get high. that's why I wrote " Michael didn't use it for fun or get high" so according to Jermaine he's not an addict but sometimes had dependency issues (at least to Demerol).

In other words, Jermaine is talking out of his butt again. When Michael died and the weeks after he claimed that he never knew Michael even had a drug problem.

Jermaine is flip flops more than John Mccain.
 
no he doesn't think that he was using it to get high. that's why I wrote " Michael didn't use it for fun or get high" so according to Jermaine he's not an addict but sometimes had dependency issues (at least to Demerol) due to the pain he was experiencing.

Thanks but...

I'm just trying to understand jermaine's accounts, if he(mike) was using meds for medical reasons why would he(jermaine) assume that it was an addiction, that can be taken out of context? Mike, as been revealed, has had chronic back pain, scalp, and complications of his lupus therefore he depended on certain meds to help him deal with those matters, I just don't get why is jermaine trying to make it complicated..


Lord have mercy I'm tired and the Jacksons got me so confused. lol
 
They all need to shut up. I'm so tired of all of this blabbering. All this drug talk is so unneccessary now right before the start of the trial. Shut up Jacksons!
 
Thanks Ivyfor the clarification.

From all these books and interviews now my feeling is that no one can talk for Michael. No one can say why he did certain things, if he did not tell them. I hope, since everyone who wanted to, have written their books, in the future they will not discuss drugs, allegations, surgery until they bring the lawyers, witnesses and doctors who dealt with Michael on these issues with them. They cannot speak about these things intelligently as we have witnessed, because they do not want to say we don't know. If they say that, it will show they know little about their brother. Of course we know that, but they want to continue the lie that they know everything.

They, including Jermaine, will talk about things to help with that lawsuit with AEG. Hence, we hear him speak about how frail Michael looked, he was forced to do the shows, he cried for his pa pa, he was incoherent. If Michael was incoherent, it was something Muarry was giving him, or something Klien gave him to undergo a treatment. The thing is the book does not explain sufficiently what exactly caused certain things, or it does not explain clearly. If it did, the reporters would not be asking the same stupid questions, because Jermaine would just hit them with the facts.
 
Thanks for the summary Ivy. I'm trying to catch up so I apologize if this has been discussed but did Jermaine discuss his involvement with Thomi, allegations that Randy stole from MJ and Michael's deposition, who introduced Michael to Murray and if the family stole from Michael after he died (Rebbie and LaToya)?
 
Chapter 21 - The Comeback King

Fall 2008. Michael is happy and healthy. Dancing and recording. Wheelchair photo - was an act. Michael trying to make everyone think he wasn't ready or capable for comeback.

"Because no comeback is truly a comeback until the odds seem impossible."


"Michael got stronger and stronger, week by week, and he shed weight when I didn’t think he had any more to lose. Again, some people point to this “thinness” as if it were a disturbing sign, but he had shrunk ever since the trial and his fitness regime made him skinnier. It was also normal—after each tour he ever did, he’d lose three inches off his waist. Michael was simply shedding weight because of those daily four hours of dance."

"In late 2008, he was so fit that, further down the line—eight weeks before he died—when he bumped into a friend in a doctor’s office, he lifted his shirt and said, “Have you seen my six-pack?”"

Michael's plans: New house in Vegas as a new neverland, his kids see him perform. make money from tour to pay his debts. Performing in China after TII. Do Superbowl. 2 tours of "back by popular demand" concerts till 2014. TII was the beginning not the end. 5 year plan.

Still worried if the tickets would not sell, tested the waters with 10 in Europe. Wasn't sure about USA reaction to him.

Flashback to after trial and time in Bahrain: Although Jermaine was instrumental in the deal with the Prince, he's cut off and it becomes a deal between only Michael and Prince Abdullah. Prince pays for Michael's lifestyle in Bahrain. Michael in good faith believed these to be gifts and he didn't realize it was part of his contract. Michael thought he was to do one album but the contract was for music,musicals,movies, books etc. So as he doesn't want to be owned by anyone he leaves. Prince sues Michael. Jermaine can't believe Michael signed a contract without reading.

A lot of lawsuit against Michael worth $100M. Sony loan now $300M. Sony has the option to buy his 25%. Good news Michael buys 5% share from Branca. Jermaine thinks "once great business relationship" between Branca and Michael floundered as Branca wasn't exclusively on Michael's side (conflict of interest idea). Struggling to pay Neverland's costs, salaries, animal costs. Ranch shut down in 2006.

Summer 2006 Michael received a set of documents that showed that some individuals were deliberately getting people to sue Michael to force him into involuntary bankruptcy. Jermaine never saw the documents. don't know what happened to them.

Michael trusted a less people. There was one person he thought as a friend and advised him unofficially since 2001. Michael was often a guest at his house. One sleepless night during his war with Mottola , Michael overhears this person on the telephone with Mottola saying not favorable things.

Michael wanted to play "Willy Wonka" but the role went to Johnny Deep. 2007 "Crystal City" - Neverland theme park and Jackson Academy of performing arts in Middle East. 4 meetings but they didn't have the money to fund it.

2007 when in Africa in a business meeting trying to find a backer for the project, a friend mentions Tohme Tohme as a guy "who knows a lot of people". March 2008 Jermaine and Halima goes to meet Tohme. Not charming but gracious. Jermaine discusses Crystal City to Tohme without mentioning Michael. 4 meetings with Tohme. Tohme says he'll try to come up with oil-rich investors to fund $6billion and report back.

Neverland foreclosure news. Jermaine worries that Michael would need to sell his catalog to save Neverland. He decided to call Tohme. Halima says "you hardly know the man". April 2008 Jermaine meets with Tohme , tells him the situation and asks if he knows anyone that can help. Tohme says Tom Barrack / Colony Capital would help and "he'll make sure of it". Jermaine goes to Las Vegas to talk to Michael. Security doesn't let Jermaine in. He goes to a hotel and comes back 3 times, still they don't let him in. He calls Katherine who calls Grace who lets Jermaine in. Jermaine complains about the security not letting him in. Michael tells him he'll make changes soon. Jermaine tells Michael about Tom Barrack.

"I know that my sister La Toya has said she wished she could have “protected” him from the likes of Tohme-Tohme, but had she known the history and the dire reality of the situation, I doubt she’d have held such an opinion."

Jermaine takes Tohme to meet Michael. Michael talks with Barrack on the phone. Meeting with all of them is set. Shortly before foreclosure Barrack pays $23M and gets 50% ownership at Neverland. Barrack and Tohme are heroes. Tohme becomes Michael's manager. Tohme looks over Michael's finances. Cash poor, asset rich. a lot of expenses.

2008 summer Michael shows Jermaine the photos of the house he wants to buy in Vegas that belonged to Prince Jefri of Brunei. He saw the house in 2007, decided to buy it in 2008 and was in negotiations in 2009 to make a $15M down payment for it funded by his TII contract.

Michael and Barrack get along very well. Barrack wants to open a thriller tower in his Hilton hotel. Michael asks him if he wants to partner with him on Sony/ATV catalog. Jermaine doesn't want to leave Michael vulnerable to Barrack and Tohme so he tries to recruit lawyer Joel Katz and Michael agrees. Tohme turns against Jermaine as he brings in a lawyer. Neverland auction. Michael approved it thinking only furniture in storage will be sold. He did not want Neverland would be dismantled and his personal possesions be sold. Michael soon fires Tohme.

Jermaine says before his firing even Tohme turned into a gatekeeper not allowing him to see Michael.

“I don’t understand why you keep coming around. Your brother does not want to see you. If someone does not want to see you, I wouldn’t keep humiliating myself and showing up . . .”

March/ April 2008 dinner with Barrack is when TII idea started. TII is one way to earn big money or he would have need to work at McDonald's as he told Karen Faye. Jermaine says Michael long dreamed a residency tour - in Paris. Tohme reaches out to AEG and Live Nation. Jermaine knows AEG because he talked to them in 2004 about a Broadway musical about Jacksons life story. 2008 Barrack seals the deal with Phil Anschutz of AEG for TII that came with a minimal payment of $36.5M with an upside potential of $300M. 3 movies were a part of it as well as the $15M Vegas home. Also an agreement to do spot concerts as well as 2 tours. One of the tours would be a Jackson 5 reunion tour because Katherine had told Michael that before she died she wanted to see her sons tour together one last time. One more solo tour as final curtain call. He said he would retire from music at when he was 55 years old and then only focus on Hollywood for movies.

TII announcement. Michael being late, not staying long etc. Jermaine says earlier that day Michael learned that guitar player David Williams died.

May 14, 2009 Family day. Katherine and Joe's 60th anniversary surprise. Michael is 4 weeks into TII rehearsals.

"When I spoke with my brother at the Indian restaurant, there was no question that he was fit, healthy and focused. He was skinny, but only in an athletic sense, and the photos that still stand on an end table in my living room confirm it. More importantly, he was genuinely excited about “doing something special for the fans” and there was talk of special guest appearances by the likes of Slash and Alicia Keys. At least, that was an idea he had been toying with."

"The only thing he complained about was that he’d signed up to do “10 shows only” as advertised but somewhere along the line, due to the demand tickets, AEG had added an extra 40 dates. Even they sold out within five hours on-line. Michael said no one had checked with him first, but at no point did he give me the impression that the schedule was too punishing or beyond him, because it wasn’t. Not for a man in his condition."

"He always had breakfast and dinner with his kids, and while they went to bed at around 8 pm, he soon followed around nine. He had been sleeping soundly (his insomnia was only ever tour induced) and he seemed the most centered and content I had seen him in years."
"When it was time for him to leave, everyone hugged and said their goodbyes. “You’re all coming to London, right?” Michael asked us. “Yeah! We’ll be there!” I said, as we all did. “Okay, everyone. See you in London!”"


to be continued.

one more chapter left. It's about Michael's death, what happened during TII rehearsals, funeral.

(note: I looked over Jermaine is saying that Michael was down to 136lbs from 150-155lbs)
 
^^Alayasha your questions cracked me up, especially the last one about the family stealing from him.

Jermaine does not talk about the family members that are alive. In fact, I notice none of them say "dangerous" things about the living ones. They know the person will hurt them severely. After Latoya spoke against the dad, she has spoken of forgiveness. Basically they will talk about Joe but in a way to convey he was just being old school, or he did it for a reason.
 
Ivy, I just want to say that we all owe you for reading this book. Just by reading your summary is making my IQ drop points. I guess I expected a little more out of Jermaine than Toya, but I guess in the end they are all Jacksons. Self-interest seems to be the motto of that family.
 
Thanks for the summary Ivy. I'm trying to catch up so I apologize if this has been discussed but did Jermaine discuss his involvement with Thomi, allegations that Randy stole from MJ and Michael's deposition, who introduced Michael to Murray and if the family stole from Michael after he died (Rebbie and LaToya)?

I just posted the Tohme part. Nothing about Randy. Murray is mentioned in the next chapter so we'll come to that. His death will be in the final chapter as well. so tomorrow we'll wrap this up.
 
So he brought Thome in and then Thome did not want him around. I wonder who was that person who was talking about Michael on the phone, and why Jermaine did not give the name if he knows for sure? He named different people in his book. Notice the reference to Karen again, and here comes another Jackson tour again. Let's see this book had many Jackson tour interventions. Now who believes that Michael would do a Jackson tour are TII? Only the Jacksons.
 
Wow thanks Ivy. This is all so confusing and it doesn't help that I'm reading the thread backwards. Jermaine seems to contradict himself within the same chapter. If Michael tells him that he only signed up for 10 shows and no one asked him about more how could there have been a 5 year plan including the J5 tour? Also, I thought the 10 shows was to "test the waters"? Also, was Jermaine really that involved with Michael's business affairs and if things were so dire, did the family call a meeting to discuss reducing their expenses and easing the financial burden from Michael? This books intent was to answer lingering questions yet its only left me with more questions than answers.

P.S didn't Karen Faye tweet that MJ was upset with Jermaine prior to his death, Katherine is as bad as Joe is perceived and Jermaine's children are a bad influence on Michael's kids? Surprised he would use her as a source and speak so glowingly of her.
 
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So he brought Thome in and then Thome did not want him around. I wonder who was that person who was talking about Michael on the phone, and why Jermaine did not give the name if he knows for sure? He named different people in his book. Notice the reference to Karen again, and here comes another Jackson tour again. Let's see this book had many Jackson tour interventions. Now who believes that Michael would do a Jackson tour are TII? Only the Jacksons.

Probably Malnik.
 
I just posted the Tohme part. Nothing about Randy. Murray is mentioned in the next chapter so we'll come to that. His death will be in the final chapter as well. so tomorrow we'll wrap this up.

So he brought Thome in and then Thome did not want him around. I wonder who was that person who was talking about Michael on the phone, and why Jermaine did not give the name if he knows for sure? He named different people in his book. Notice the reference to Karen again, and here comes another Jackson tour again. Let's see this book had many Jackson tour interventions. Now who believes that Michael would do a Jackson tour are TII? Only the Jacksons.


So Tohme kept Jermaine away...why was he at the hospital when MJ passed?

Jermaine himself said MJ fired him...so why was he allowed to see MJ on his death bed?


I knew Jermaine's book would be rubbish, but I am still shock at how little info it has.

Everything he wrote about mostly came from the media, Moonwalk & The Magic & the madness.

He has absolutely no personal stories...which is not surprising as he wasn't there.

Now, I think Jermaine's book helped me made up my mind. I will buy Cascios' book..as I am sure they will have more stories.

SMDH
 
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