Jermaine Writing Book On Life With MJ *Book To Be Released Sept 13*

The Word to the Badd story is interesting. Two spurned producers wrote the song and angry Jermaine sang it, even though he did not agree with all of it. Considering the kind of clout and influence Michael had at that time, that was a bold move.

Babyface subsequently worked with Michael. I wonder if it was ever discussed.
 
Thanks, Ivy, for all your hard work and time, in writing these summaries! :clapping:

This will take some time to digest, but I think it's possible to read between the lines to understand Jermaine's frustration, sometimes anger, and jealousy. To paraphrase, he says, "I wanted the glory, too." That pretty much sums it up? At times, he must have been mystified by Michael's EXTREME success -- that he just didn't have? I found that theme in the book to be quite sad, actually. "Charisma" isn't something you can learn, or practice. It IS. Or it isn't. (Michael had it, and Jermaine. . . does not.)

It's hard to conflate the time-line Jermaine gives (i.e. how little he really saw Michael), and his accounts of a deeper knowledge of Michael and events in his life. Because of that, a lot of the book couldn't help but be invention. It's clear that it was MICHAEL who cut him off (and probably all of the rest of the family), and not some "mistake" made by his staff. Michael gave the directives of who to admit into his life (and phone), and not the other way around.

I wondered how Jermaine would handle Word to the Badd. I must say, I didn't expect him to say, "I didn't WRITE that part!" (the "changed your shade" part). Even so, he put his NAME on it, didn't he? And he sang it! I think it would have been far better if he'd taken responsibility? That seems to have been a turning point in Jermaine's life/career. The song was SO vicious (IMHO), that it really did torpedo his single, album, and career. Family quarrels are best kept. . . private? I remember well when Word to the Badd was released, and it was quite shocking, and there was a backlash in the press. I think he could have done damage-control with a public (and groveling?) apology. I don't recall that he did? Anyone?

It's clear he saw Michael rarely after the Victory tour, and because of that there are things he just can't know -- those parts are surely invention, or gleaned through conversations with Karen Faye, and others. So there is no way to know about accuracy there.

Personally, for his own sake, I wish Jermaine had written a book about. . . Jermaine. With honesty about his childhood and perceptions of the family. Given all he said in the book that points to extreme jealousy about Michael, I wish he'd had the confidence (and veracity?) to write his OWN book, about himself. Instead, we get a book with Michael's picture on the cover. That has to hurt Jermaine, on some deep, deep level.

Jermaine has every right to write a book, and people have every right to buy it, or NOT buy it. The major blunder remains "the secret plan." That's extremely unfortunate, on the eve of the trial, and makes it seem that Michael, himself, thought he was above the law. I'd expect that was the "hook" that got the book published, but unfortunately, that's what the press is picking up on, too (and largely omitting the part, "Michael didn't KNOW about it!")
 
For uk members, if anyone's interested jermaine is being interviewed on Radio 4's arts programme Front row at 7.15pm which you can access on radio 4's listen again website for 7 days i think. A friend mentioned that JJ was on a little segment on ITV news at 10 last night, dovetailing with the beg of Murray's trial, and had JJ dissing the cardiff concert, she didn't say if operation fugitive J5 style was mentioned. With all that and the This morning interview which i must watch on itv's catch up website, JJ's media booker has done pretty well, latoya certainly never got any coverage in the uk (thank god).
 
Well here's my honest "opinion" so far. Im not going to blatantly defend or attack Jermaine just voice what I see.

There a few inconsistancies but over all so far it seems to be respectful toward Michael. Im not goin to nit pic every insignificant error. You will find that in every book you read about MJ. but I do see some errors that are going to bite him in the butt . His book Its more honest that Most Ive read and certainly much better than Latoya's crap. but I do see jealousy from Jermaine in the way he trys to explain some of his and Michaels behaviour. Jermaine stated earlier he was doing research for his book. He should have clarified his findings with fans before it went to print LOL. It would have been best if he didnt write about events he was not personally privy to. which is alot becuase he stated he didnt have that much contact with MJ over the years. He knows Fans will point out every error .. Still waiting on the last chaps before i can give my final opinion.


I know that this is your opinion but I have to disagree, what Jermaine is doing is not in any way respect towards michael, although he defends him here and there he has a way of making it sound so beneficial on his behalf, sorta like feeding his ego. That's not respect, that is pride.
 
Isn't it amazing how the two siblings who hurt him the most and did that publicly now can't stop repeating that MJ forgave them and that they were close? It's like if you repeat it often enough you will believe it's true

I have taken notice of it, but what they fail to say is that their(latoya, Jermaine and mike) relationship was never the same as they(latoya and Jermaine) pretended it to be, instead they convey their "stories" as if they were there and intouch with mike up until he departed.
 
Two other things stood for me in the summary

[1] the glowing description of Karen Faye

[2] Michael giving 50% in rehearsal and practising at home for the VictoryTour.

For [1] it explains what Jermaine claimes to know about TII and [2] is kind of ironic. The excerpt that appeared on Monday was about Michael turning up late for TII rehearsals or not turning up at all. At no point does Jermaine say that this behaviour was not new to Michael (he did back in 84). Travis Payne said he would meet Michael at home, have lunch, work at home and then head to the rehearsal space. Instead Jermaine makes it seem as though Michael's "lateness" and "absence" were indicators of dangers ahead.

Which brings me to a related point - why does Jermaine presume that Michael's need for sleep stems mainly from stress about money? Michael was a very creative person. And with creative people, their minds are always whirling with ideas, thoughts, innovations. Sometimes it is hard to shut it off. As I said before I work in the performing arts and quite a few of my clients cannot sleep at night because stuff is always coming to them, they are always envisioning things. Sometimes they just want their brain to shut off so that they can go to sleep.

In watching TII, I was blown away by the ideas that Michael and the team had. And I feel Michael was committed to this project (financial considerations notwithstanding), and I don't doubt he was just filled with concepts and designs. Ortega spoke of this. But as time went on, maybe Michael just wanted to shut off his mind so that he could get some sleep.
 
I put those parts knowingly.

For example when talking about Victory tour Jermaine mentions Michael designing everything. The effects, how they would appear, what they will do when, clothes etc.. The similar doing everything is present in TII. It's hard to believe that the TII workload was forced on him. It seems that's how Michael worked.

Even at some parts Jermaine mentions self imposed stress and perfection quest - again seem to be characteristic of Michael.

Then 50% at rehearsals , saving 1000% to stage. So not going full on TII, not completing a song etc again doesn't seem out of character.

and then working at home across his mirror. Jermaine says that Michael danced in his room / home / studio for hours to create the dances he envisioned. He says that Michael would then hardly get himself to bed. Also for example he says that Michael didn't show them the robot until he perfected it. So Michael not showing at Forum or Staples, doesn't mean that he wasn't working on the show at home.

and as for Karen I think she gets that glowing reviews because she's the source. I'll see it when I read the later chapters. but if the version of the events fit with Latoya's book then I'll think that she's the source.
 
Karen Faye must be Jermaine's PRIMARY source. But yet, she has contradicted herself many times, mostly in tweets where she seems to forget what she's already said? She's said, alternately, that "Michael was in terrific shape," and also, that he was "weak, thin, and sick." No way to know WHAT the truth is, from her?

But yeah, what Jermaine describes has ALWAYS been the way Michael worked. Nothing different there, about TII.
 
I know that this is your opinion but I have to disagree, what Jermaine is doing is not in any way respect towards michael, although he defends him here and there he has a way of making it sound so beneficial on his behalf, sorta like feeding his ego. That's not respect, that is pride.

I agree with you here. This is not a defense of a brother, but a patchwork of stories to justify his actions. He knew Michael had vitiligo, he knew Karen had to follow him to keep it covered, and he still sang that song. You are so angry with your brother for not calling you that you sing that song? If a non-call causes such a reaction, I wonder how he would respond if he felt Michael was the cause of his lack of stardom.

From the summaries you come out with the impression that Jermain wanted that "something" that Michael had. You cannot be that angry because your brother did not call you. He must have felt that Michael owed him to come when he called. He was the big brother and little brother was more famous. Because he talks soooooo much about Michael liking the group tour, and Michael closeness to them, you get the feeling that something is off here. Is he trying to convince himself or us. I know he has convinced some of us here, but still, many are not convinced.

Yes Michael always worked like that ^^. He also spoke about it too, that he practices in front of the mirror. He also sings everything the way he wants to and when he gets into the studio he knows exactly what he wants to do. This man was a gifted man. No wonder Jermaine got mad.
 
I put those parts knowingly.

For example when talking about Victory tour Jermaine mentions Michael designing everything. The effects, how they would appear, what they will do when, clothes etc.. The similar doing everything is present in TII. It's hard to believe that the TII workload was forced on him. It seems that's how Michael worked.

Even at some parts Jermaine mentions self imposed stress and perfection quest - again seem to be characteristic of Michael.

Then 50% at rehearsals , saving 1000% to stage. So not going full on TII, not completing a song etc again doesn't seem out of character.

and then working at home across his mirror. Jermaine says that Michael danced in his room / home / studio for hours to create the dances he envisioned. He says that Michael would then hardly get himself to bed. Also for example he says that Michael didn't show them the robot until he perfected it. So Michael not showing at Forum or Staples, doesn't mean that he wasn't working on the show at home.

and as for Karen I think she gets that glowing reviews because she's the source. I'll see it when I read the later chapters. but if the version of the events fit with Latoya's book then I'll think that she's the source.


Good going Ivy. I noticed that too in your summery so I wondered how Jermaine thinks TII was different from the Victory Tour. My theory is, of course, TII was different because no one the family was getting money. From how much Michael said he hated that tour, I think that caused him more stress than supposed money problems. Especially since Michael could had made money many different ways without touring.

Another thing, Jermaine supposedly claim that Michael only had problems sleeping when getting ready for a tour. Going by the people who were actually around him, Michael had problems sleeping in general. Remember, even the Casico(sp) acknowledge that Michael always had problems sleeping at night and his bodyguards called him a night owl. Even his own mother said that Michael had some terrible sleeping habits. Namely, he went to bed late, yet was the first one up in the morning. He didn't even want a bed in his room because he wanted as much room possible to dance in. So, Jermaine obviously doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to Michael's sleep problems.
 
Two other things stood for me in the summary

[1] the glowing description of Karen Faye

[2] Michael giving 50% in rehearsal and practising at home for the VictoryTour.

For [1] it explains what Jermaine claimes to know about TII and [2] is kind of ironic. The excerpt that appeared on Monday was about Michael turning up late for TII rehearsals or not turning up at all. At no point does Jermaine say that this behaviour was not new to Michael (he did back in 84). Travis Payne said he would meet Michael at home, have lunch, work at home and then head to the rehearsal space. Instead Jermaine makes it seem as though Michael's "lateness" and "absence" were indicators of dangers ahead.

Which brings me to a related point - why does Jermaine presume that Michael's need for sleep stems mainly from stress about money? Michael was a very creative person. And with creative people, their minds are always whirling with ideas, thoughts, innovations. Sometimes it is hard to shut it off. As I said before I work in the performing arts and quite a few of my clients cannot sleep at night because stuff is always coming to them, they are always envisioning things. Sometimes they just want their brain to shut off so that they can go to sleep.

In watching TII, I was blown away by the ideas that Michael and the team had. And I feel Michael was committed to this project (financial considerations notwithstanding), and I don't doubt he was just filled with concepts and designs. Ortega spoke of this. But as time went on, maybe Michael just wanted to shut off his mind so that he could get some sleep.


the only thing I do want to say about Karen Faye is few days ago somone asked her how the family knew so much about TII reheasals and did she (Karen) speak to them about it. Her response was somthing like...yes I may of memtioned some of this stuff to them after Michael passed away. So imo...if anything sounds like it may of came out of Karens mouth and NOT Jermaines,,,,then odds are IT DID....and he just wrote it as if HE had FIRST hand knowledge.
 
I'm so sad for the nature, for the trees who were destroyed to print this shit book full of lies.

Jermaine really like money and he will do anything for money. With no shame.

Just unbelievable that we can see page after page, just lies and lies, and the medias don't say nothing.

 
my mother say that good for jermaine that he release book she hate when other people makes about MJ is mean she like that jackson family does it more nicer & butter too
my mother tols me that she'll get me the book :)

all i what to say is God Bless Jermaine soul of saddness i feel sorry for him
 
JoeVogel1 Joe Vogel
@jermjackson5 I'm about 150 pages into your book, Jermaine. Very impressed thus far. Thoughtful, honest, great detail.
 
Since when is Jermaine supposed to have vitiligo? When asked during Big Brother Celebrity U.K in 2007,

he didn't know the name of MJ's skin disease.
 
Jermaine had this pic in the book:
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I'm so sad for the nature, for the trees who were destroyed to print this shit book full of lies.

Jermaine really like money and he will do anything for money. With no shame.

Just unbelievable that we can see page after page, just lies and lies, and the medias don't say nothing.


So the kids aren't really Michael's after all since Jermaine defended that they were. Oh unlike LaToya he actually blamed Murray for Michael's death.
 
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@jermjackson5 I'm about 150 pages into your book, Jermaine. Very impressed thus far. Thoughtful, honest, great detail.

1 buyer less for your book Joe. Damn, I thought it was a good guy this Joe Vogel.

So the kids aren't really Michael's after all since Jermaine defended that they were. Oh unlike LaToya he actually blamed Murray for Michael's death.

Ah Jermaine said that PPB are real Jackson$ ? OH MY GOD!

Since 1997 I knew it, but if Jermaine confirm it, it must be REALLY TRUE???????????????? Oh my god! I'm so happy, Mike was really the father of his kids! I'm crying right now! So happy to know that !


So btw, the kids of Jermaine are really his kids ? I need to know that. because it's so easy to have kids, and since we needs Jermaine to know that PPB are really Mike's we need to know for Jermaines's kids too.

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ANYTHING FOR MONEY.

 
1 buyer less for your book Joe. Damn, I thought it was a good guy this Joe Vogel.



Ah Jermaine said that PPB are real Jackson$ ? OH MY GOD!

Since 1997 I knew it, but if Jermaine confirm it, it must be REALLY TRUE???????????????? Oh my god! I'm so happy, Mike was really the father of his kids! I'm crying right now! So happy to know that !


So btw, the kids of Jermaine are really his kids ? I need to know that. because it's so easy to have kids, and since we needs Jermaine to know that PPB are really Mike's we need to know for Jermaines's kids too.

-__________-

ANYTHING FOR MONEY.


Wow you are really really immature.
 
Chapter 13 - The Hardest Victory



Jackie hit by a car, bust his knee. He can't perform.

LOL.. I rememer reading Margaret Maldonados book and she provides the background to this story. Apparantly Jackies former wife, Enid, foud out he was cheating on her with Paula Abdul (!!!) so she ran that car over his leg....
 
Thank you Ivy for posting all of these photo's. I love the one of Michael's report card. See we always knew HE was the one with the brains in that family...:lmao:..
 
LOL.. I rememer reading Margaret Maldonados book and she provides the background to this story. Apparantly Jackies former wife, Enid, foud out he was cheating on her with Paula Abdul (!!!) so she ran that car over his leg....

Really? wow..what is it with these Jackson boys ..they cheat on their wives left and right...oh wait,..thats right Joe was their roll model. A leopard cannot change its spots..so for all those chics that are married to those Jackson boys today....Do you know where YOUR husband is? (notice I called them boys and not men..because real men DONT cheat!)
 
Really? wow..what is it with these Jackson boys ..they cheat on their wives left and right...oh wait,..thats right Joe was their roll model. A leopard cannot change its spots..so for all those chics that are married to those Jackson boys today....Do you know where YOUR husband is? (notice I called them boys and not men..because real men DONT cheat!)

Yepp.. its in her book lol


After that Michael seriously dated Brooke Shields. they remained friends and had communications till the day he died.

Wait.. what? Really? There have been reports saying they had not seen each other since the early 90s but maybe they talked on the phone?
 
when I go home from work. I'll read the rest of the chapters and hopefully finish it by tonight.
 
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