Jermaine talk about his brother,Michael Jackson.

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Its obvious that Michael is NOT bringin up his kids like Joseph did Michael. Everyone who has ever worked with Michael and has been around his kids have spoken differently. Jermaine talks shit.
 
lol ugh I woke up to this blah - wants to roll back over and sleep myself.

Ya'll are just repeating yourselves now. Same ol same ol. This thread is close to being worn down.

Jermaine is the same as he's always been. Nothing new and no need to bash him. He's family :yes: We all have em :lol:
 
Wasn't it simply the manipulation of editing that made it come across that Joe had a 100% negative effect on Michael?
What part of editing made Michael himself say this in a live interview:
just a look would scare you. I was frightened. There were times he'd come to see me and I would get sick. I'd start to regurgitate. Both as a child and as an adult....

See this and more in his own words from 9.24" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KizxodWPl-g
 
Jermaine saying that Michael is strict parent like Joseph isn't good atall because Michael has said in interviews that Joesph used to beat him, so the media will more than likely take what Jermaine said out of context and report the following headline ''Michael Jackson beats his kids''

I hope that this will never happen but we all know how the tabloids are

I can't even imagine Michael doing that to his children.
 
What part of editing made Michael himself say this in a live interview:

See this and more in his own words from 9.24" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KizxodWPl-g

Because MJ also said other things that were positive about his father which were left off, a few bits aired on Private Home Movies, and he also tried to give his father some credit which was quickly brushed off by Bashir, and MJ also spoke some fonds words of his father at a college speech.

Yes, we all know the story of Joseph Jackson and his children, but MJ has not condemned his father and has mentioned certain aspects of his father that are not terrible.
 
MJ, from his Oxford speech (Transcript at http://www.allmichaeljackson.com/speeches/oxforduni01.html):
And when I think about this, of how I hope that my children will not judge me unkindly, and will forgive my shortcomings, I am forced to think of my own father and despite my earlier denials, I am forced to admit that me must have loved me. He did love me, and I know that.

There were little things that showed it. When I was a kid I had a real sweet tooth - we all did. My favourite food was glazed doughnuts and my father knew that. So every few weeks I would come downstairs in the morning and there on the kitchen counter was a bag of glazed doughnuts - no note, no explanation - just the doughnuts. It was like Santa Claus.

Sometimes I would think about staying up late at night, so I could see him leave them there, but just like with Santa Claus, I didn't want to ruin the magic for fear that he would never do it again. My father had to leave them secretly at night, so as no one might catch him with his guard down. He was scared of human emotion, he didn't understand it or know how to deal with it. But he did know doughnuts.

And when I allow the floodgates to open up, there are other memories that come rushing back, memories of other tiny gestures, however imperfect, that showed that he did what he could. So tonight, rather than focusing on what my father didn't do, I want to focus on all the things he did do and on his own personal challenges. I want to stop judging him.
 
He is a perfect father, everyone who has seen him with his children says so!!

Even, stupid, Martin Bashir admitted that Mike was a loving and caring father and he never saw any wrongdoings, what so ever.

So Jermaine saying this is just sad! - even though he propably meant it positive, he said it a way the Tabloids will love to manipulate!!
 
I think he means he is strict with them in the sense that they are grounded and not spoilt, and don't get everything they want even thoughtthey are a celebs children. God some fans are worse than the media in takeing things out of context
 
Damn, y'all still on this? Can't everybody agree that Jermaine means well but he still gives fools more ammo to think some stupid sh*t? :lol:

Damn, lol.
 
Lay off Jermaine, seriously. He means well. Let's remember the media adds things or edits things in their print articles. Let's keep that in mind.

"Michael is not one of those fathers that lets them do what they want and give(s) them everything they want," Jackson said.

Good for Michael. It shows that he is not going to raised brats that are spoiled. Mike probably saw what happened to his goddaugther, Nicole Richie (Lionel Richie's daughter) and many of children of hollywood and did not want that happening to his own children. Maybe MJ wanted to established secure foundations for his children. So, I see nothing wrong with his comment.

"He is raising them the way he was raised. I think it's great because he wants them to be good people."

This comment was not a very smart comment to say. We all know how Joseph raised the children - nuff said. However, because I am giving Jermaine the benefit of the doubt, it is possible that Jermaine did not make himself clear. I think what Jermaine was trying to say was the effects that MJ went through being raised by Joseph is what he is using with his own children. In other words, what Joseph did not do with his children, i.e calling him "Dad" or "daddy", always saying that I love you, always making sure that they are doing something right and if they are not, instead of whipping their behind, redirect them to do the right thing - Michael is doing with his. Maybe that is what Jermaine is trying to state.

Also, let me state this: from reading the comments from the 1st page, I am distrubed by the amount of people trashing Jermaine and his father. Look, Joe was not the father of the year but he is still their father and he was there for them. There are people in this world that either their mother or father want nothing to do with them. Not calling them on the phone to see how they are doing, not visiting them and MEANING it, not caring if they get sick, not sending them any cards for special days like birthdays and holidays and plainly do not care about them. Those sick people exists. Joe is not one of those people. He was tough on his children because that was the only way he knew how to raise them. I am not defending what he did but I am understanding, now, why he did those things. BTW, MJ was NEVER abused by his father. He stated that many times. If the media wants to hate and run with this, who cares? Let them be. Jermaine can say whatever he wants to say about his niece and nephews. We do not know them personally. Jermaine does. Either you believe him or you do not. Just do not say that he has no contact with his niece and nephews as facts.

Despite the fact this interview once again raises the less than likely to happen Jackson 5 reunion. I think we should not be too hard on Jermaine, because this interview may have taken place before Michael released his statement confirming once and for all that there is no Jackson 5 reunion album and tour.

Exactly.
 
reading this thread got me wondering why dont the rest of the jackson go on tour without michael i mean jermine can sing granted it would be smaller venues but im sure people would enjoy it
 
No one hates Jermaine, it just gets old how he speaks for Michael and how he commits Michael to projects which Michael in actuality isn't commited to. It seems like he's using his name

LOL. Stop lying. Did you not read that thread about the statement MJ release about the J5 reunion? Weren't you the main one having a field day trashing the guy?

Man, I love the back comments of some folks. As far as I am concern, I rather have Jermaine used MJ than a former Hollywood legend using MJ to spice up her already dead career.

Just saying.

You guys really need to stop saying people who are annoyed with him constantly dropping Michael's name hate him. That's BS. I don't hate Jermaine at all.

What are you annoyed(sp) about? WHAT? This man can say whatever the hell he wants to say about his brother. Let him be. Damn. Jermaine does not need a seal of approval from MJ fans just to speak about his brother. If Mike was my brother, Imma tell ewveryone about it because I know my brother is the ish! It is not BS if people state that some people here do hate Jermaine. It is not. It is how it is percieve. You do not have to like the man. Let Jermaine, David Gest, anyone that is gonna have REAL TALK about MJ name drop all they want. I rather read the TRUTH than BS from former Hollywood "legends". Period. BTW, MJ does not need defending? What do you do when you come on this board everyday when people state things about Mike you can't swallow and accept, Nicole? You defend him. So, don't hate on his brother for defending him. Anyone that is not involve with the MJ fan community are not gonna take seriously what a fan says about MJ. They are gonna listen to the brother or the true friend or the family member. Why? Because they were there. So Jermaine, Randy, Tito, LaToya, Janet, Katherine, Rebbie, Jackie, Marlon, Joseph, and others can say whatever the hell they wanna say about Mike whether we hate it or not.
 
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I'm agreeing with Bee for the most part. I dont see a huge deal in what Jermaine said and it was only nice things anyway

EDIT: And this part
"Jackson said the family supergroup, the Jackson 5, was in talks about recording and touring.
He hoped a planned tour would include Michael, superstar sister Janet, Tito's sons, R&B group 3T, and Jackie's son, rapper Dealz"

So what they probably are in talks trying to get MJ on board or see what else they can do, it says "he hoped" not he saying it IS going to happen, he said that already and then the statement happened now hes hoping things will change?
What he said is hardly damaging to MJs reputation. I dont think any papers are going to run with the MJ beating his kids thing, they like to paint him as too frail to do anything
 
Just a small correction on a couple of replies:
Because MJ also said other things that were positive about his father which were left off,

The interview I linked to was the Oprah Winfrey interview from 1993. That was a live interview, so nothing was left out.

I remember one more thing regarding Joe Jackson's upbringing. In The Jacksons: An American Dream, his depiction was not very positive, to say the least. And that series was produced by (among others)... Jermaine Jackson. Not that it means anything spectacular. Just hope (and truely believe) that Michael is a bit more on the soft side with his kids.
 
Just a small correction on a couple of replies:


The interview I linked to was the Oprah Winfrey interview from 1993. That was a live interview, so nothing was left out.

I remember one more thing regarding Joe Jackson's upbringing. In The Jacksons: An American Dream, his depiction was not very positive, to say the least. And that series was produced by (among others)... Jermaine Jackson. Not that it means anything spectacular. Just hope (and truely believe) that Michael is a bit more on the soft side with his kids.


i don't think we should judge Michael's behaviour, based on info from anyone other than Michael.
 
Aw hell naw, now you gonna have people saying "What you trying to say about Liz, fool?!"

LOL. What makes you think I was talking about her? LOL. Y'all should know by now that I am not holding back nothing. LOL. If people hate me for doing that, use the ignore button. People have control of what they want or do not want to read on this board. Not every fan have to support has been Hollywood legends just because MJ is "friends" with them. It is something called IMAGE. Heck, not every MJ fan is into that stuff. And I am going to take the "fool" comment as your way of humor an not an insult. Anyhoo - Go, Jerm, talk about Mike. Go, David talk about Mike. I support you. LOL! Talk on!
 
Just hope (and truely believe) that Michael is a bit more on the soft side with his kids.
That was not being judgemental, that was an attempt to end the post on a lighter note. Besides, expressing hope and an expectation is not judging someone to begin with.
 
Paris is a tomboy?!?!?!

Where the hell did he get that from?!?!

I thought maybe you wanted someone to answer this question.

Michael, her father, said himself that Paris did not go for the "playing with dolls thing" when she was very little. Hence, the realization that she'd rather play with what the boys played with. He said that he bought a lot of dolls, all kinds for her because she was his little girl and she didn't want anything to do with them.

Now if your question was rhetorical... then...nevermind.
 
That was not being judgemental, that was an attempt to end the post on a lighter note. Besides, expressing hope and an expectation is not judging someone to begin with.

we have to agree to disagree on this. would that thought have entered your mind, if this thread hadn't been put up? nevermind...i don't really care what your answer is, but i did need to pose this post..
 
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